nowhat
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Such a novel feature! I have not seen that in any game! No wonder it has taken so long!
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Squadron 42 Will Release in 2026 for PC with 30-40 Hours of Campaign, Prologue Gameplay Revealed
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clarky
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Squadron 42? if it actually releases then sure because youd be looking at PS6 by that time more than likely.
Star Citizen probably not.
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Comandr
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I think there's a good chance. Even the Steam Deck can kind of run the game, despite being essentially a potato by comparison to what the PS6 would potentially be. SC warns you when launching that the Steam Deck is about 4GB below the minimum ram, its graphics driver is far older than the minimum recommended, and in turn doesn't support the latest vulkan API necessary to utilize that, so you're stuck in DX11. Even despite being massively behind in necessary updates, below minimum spec, and using a less than ideal graphics API, it still runs at 10-30FPS.
And this is before any real legwork has been done to optimize performance specifically.
VolticArchangel
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Yes*.
* = PS5 and Series X should have no problems. Optimizing for the Series S would be way more cumbersome than the average open world game because the game eats up a lot of memory, memory leaks and the game crashes as the current PC code is unoptimized as fuck.
Both, the singleplayer and the MMO, shouldn't have problems on current gen consoles, even in some heavy CPU bound areas like Loreville.
The most scene complex Pyro instances like dogfights, boots on ground action etc, should currently being doable on these two modern consoles.
This isn't a 2013 situation where the console CPU's were so shit that even absolute garbage architectures like AMD's bulldozer line were better than them.
The PS5 and Series X have a good solid minspec CPU for the game (AMD R5 3700/3600 for both). Even significantly above the minspec for the GPU (RX 6700/RTX 4060 in raster perf for the PS5 and RX 6700 XT in raster perf for Series X) and the SSD, as the game currently doesn't require an NVME drive (requires a SATA III SSD @ 600 MBPS) and take advantage of the DirecStorage API or the DMA counterpart for Vulkan on Linux.
Run the game at 1080p internally, and 4K FSR 3.1 upscaled, uncapped FPS.
This guy does some really good testing for SC and does minspec builds, every year, and his 2024 video dropped a couple of days ago:
Series S' memory and it's bandwidth can be mitigated with a dedicated team for optimization, but it will impact the PC release and backers will be pissed, unless Console manufacturers foot the porting bill.
But the main problem with Console ports, are the CERT process for updates, which takes from days to weeks (in Xbox's case), which is annoying for devs in live service games. Sony and Nintendo have improved a lot in this area in the last two generations.
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clarky
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I haven't downloaded and checked out the game in quite some time, i was just going off the last 2 conferences, what they showed looked super impressive. I didn't think the current console CPU's would be able to handle that stuff.
Thanks for the info.
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Games of Today
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Sure but come on lol, they aren't usually integrated with a fully mo-capped face like this. I think it looks very immersive. And if I'm getting 40 hours of this that's pretty wild.
nowhat
Member
EA Sports games have done that, with varying levels of accuracy, since... I can't be arsed to google it, but for many years, at any rate.
YMMV, but for me, games are a form of escapism. No, that's not me in the avatar, but at the same time, do I want to play as myself? Not really, given an alternative. I'm not saying your angle is wrong, but what I'm saying is, for many that's not a selling point.
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Pegasus Actual
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It's a fly around and shoot things in a spaceship game, with some added FPS sections... I think. But kind of sad if you watched the demo and single-player COD is kind of where you landed. I guess it makes sense. There was a lot of walking around... and then there was a rail shooter section... then they never actually got into what the core gameplay should be.
Vlodril
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GudOlRub
Member
Is it really sad? Tbh I'd think comparing it to a good COD campaign would be considered a compliment. Especially if it is 30 hours of it.
Anyway, if the main focus of the game is really just space shit combat then I don't think it'll be a game for me after all, but if it is a healthy mix of everything they showed in this video plus ship combat plus a good story then I'm in.
Pegasus Actual
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I don't have any issues with a good COD campaign... just that this game was meant to be a spiritual successor to Wing Commander... which the prologue demo clearly failed to convey.
Worried that it ends up like 1/3 FPS, 1/3 walking simulator, and 1/3 spaceship sim.
peish
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COD and BF and Halo are where FPS should be. fast competitve shooters through a smaller viewing window.
Massive space sim shooter game thing, needs the wide FOV of TPS to give us immersion of traversal.
Platforming on FPS is the sux.
I am fine if they delay to 2027 to switch to TPS. What is another year of excuses?
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TxKnight7
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Given what SQ42 is, it is far likely to release than SC.
SC i don't think so due to the server meshing tech. That's some hardcore stuff.
The rest of the tech should be pretty do-able. Star Engine is pretty high end but its not the best in class. And it isn't needed for SQ42. It is a more condensed title.
How consoles could handle inexistent game?
TxKnight7
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In the end Squadron 42 the SP will be released the next few years no matter what, while the MMO star citizen full ver may never be released. maybe 2040.
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TVexperto
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Nothing like adding a whole game's worth of scope creep when your product barely functions as is.
Yeah, its amazing that people blindly defends this. I love one of the comments in that thread: If the game isnt out by 2030 we can start to ask question.....Like wtf????
VolticArchangel
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In the end Squadron 42 the SP will be released the next few years no matter what, while the MMO star citizen full ver may never be released. maybe 2040.
They better fucking fix the TTK and hit detection in 4.0, because Pyro's gonna be nightmare fuel if those server meshing test issues like desync / teleportation all over the map / lag (switching?) / bullet sponge etc, return in any form.
Koenigssee
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Looks great graphically but i just want Freelancer 2 man 
iQuasarLV
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God that game was fun.Looks great graphically but i just want Freelancer 2 man
Well, you got part of the idea right
Server ... meshing, is called that because it runs on servers. Ie. That's the one thing that wouldn't present any challenges to consoles (or user devices in general).
Besides there were console titles shipped using the same type of tech on a console... 5-6 years ago.
Contrary to what CR may make it sound like, this isn't something invented 'by' or 'for' Cloud Imperium, and good examples of working tech(for games) go back a decade.
If you played an x amount of games, depending when and in which order you played these games, imagine the kinds of reactions you could come up from playing these same games? Exactly, the logical answer would be you can't keep track on them otherwise you'll end up canceling all these potential customers just from taking these reactions into account.
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Alright alright, i was tired. I know that nobody cares about that but yes yes.
Also just tired of the same endless circle rendition. I know games don't innovate lately but neither do most of the arguments.
Isn't that essentially what Star Citizen will be? Taking Freelancers 128 player persistent servers and massively expanding on them?Looks great graphically but i just want Freelancer 2 man
Squadron 42 is the cinematic military game like Wing Commander, and Star Citizen is the MMO that gives you an open universe sandbox to play in with the ability to do whatever you want.
TxKnight7
Member
" They called in the Cavillry" ..someone said:O superman is in it
TxKnight7
Member
Same face same nose.. just remove the glasses!Is it just me or Hamill looks here a lot like fucking Adama?
FoxMcChief
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TxKnight7
Member
They need to make it "Fun to play" everything else is good ,but i have a feeling it will be lacking in the gameplay department. But With awesome cinematic & presentation / story.