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Dragon Age: The Veilguard | Review Thread

What scores do you think Dragon Age: The Veilguard will get?

  • 60-64%

    Votes: 14 4.9%
  • 65-69%

    Votes: 14 4.9%
  • 70-74%

    Votes: 23 8.1%
  • 75-79%

    Votes: 59 20.8%
  • 80-84%

    Votes: 107 37.8%
  • 85-89%

    Votes: 53 18.7%
  • 90-94%

    Votes: 8 2.8%
  • 95-100%

    Votes: 5 1.8%

  • Total voters
    283
  • Poll closed .
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Y'all mother fuckers remember classic Bioware writing?

Meet the new talent there.

Fucking clownshoes.

Not the same company and it shows.
 
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moxing

Neo Member
A side note as I just started watching that linked Skill Up video. The first thing he says is "reviews are opinion. " ... if you are a professional reviewer, please stop thinking that is correct. It's meant to be objective, not opinion. That's why gaming journalism is so fucking shit. It's a small thing, but "opinions" have caused this state of gaming after years and years of morons getting a platform (not calling this reviewer a moron, more the "big" go to "journalists)

I like to get a clean read on a game with metrics and reliable scoring as much as I can, but... did you ever spend much time reading gaming mags like PSM or EGM? We're kind of in a bell curve- we started out with magazine game reviews delivered with an obvious bias by personality reviewers meant to provoke the reader toward one reaction or another. The Raiden hate around MGS2 was so extreme that they had comics of him singing Elton John and talking about whether or not his ass looked big. Such was the backlash at having such a fruity pretty-boy MC.

As the medium grew up out of being entertainment for children and being entertainment for the adults that used to be those very same children, we had to place more emphasis on where we were spending our money and who was getting that money, and that kind of pushed us toward the Age of the Objective Review. You really could get reasonably decent at-a-glance comparisons and ratings on upcoming titles from people who had experience with their advance copies of the games. At this same time though, folks like Sterling and Yahtzee and Adam & Morgan on G4 were paying their rent by being hotheaded and deliberately putting how the experience made them feel at the fore, because that's an extremely lucrative thing to do. It's where you get your clicks at. You still had to read more than the headlines or watch a different show if you wanted a more objective review, because those weren't cutting big checks- and kind of still don't.

And now we're on the other end of that bell curve, remembering what little objectivity we enjoyed for a time, while nothing's really ever changed with provocative reviewing practices because they still drive traffic to the website.

I think the most effective review you can get is one where the reviewer has to speak on various objectively defined categories. They're going to demonstrate bias and- by virtue of a review being a review- give us their perspective from what they played. But if you can narrow that into a few buckets, having them take that experience and then tell us how the graphics/music/writing/handling/etc is within their particular band of experience, then we as readers have an opportunity to compare those buckets to other reviews using the same system. My ideal reviewer right now is probably Iron Pineapple, who is kind of limited by only reviewing things in his "steam dumpster diving" format for finding soulslike games that are neat.
 

Nydius

Member
Skill Up talking about how the last two hours of the game was great and made him wonder what the game could have been because the rest of the game was crap leading up to it reminds me of another game from earlier this year that also got plenty of positive “mainstream” reviews: Star Wars Outlaws.

The final two hours of that game was much better than the 15-20 or so hours before it, almost the point where it felt like a different game. If the same is true about DA Veilguard, that, alone, makes it a hard pass. I’m not going to slog through 40ish hours of mediocrity for 2 good hours of writing and gameplay.
 

DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
I’m honestly feeling really relieved after seeing all these screenshots and videos.

I was worried that it’d be just good enough where I’d decide to give it a shot, only to be irritated by the little bits of wokeness and crappy Marvel dialog that popped up here and there.

But no, they put that shit right out there in the open and wear it proudly. That makes it a really clear hard pass for me. Now I can enjoy laughing at the shitshow that ensues, and not waste any of my money/time playing this horrendous shit, nor waste any of my energy wondering whether BioWare could ever return to glory.
 

simpatico

Member
This Skill Up review is just confirmation bias. The big outlet scores for this game are simply brazen. Much more so after listening to his rather long review of it. I mean I actually thought maybe the combat grind would be enjoyable. Perhaps that team was insulated from the writing team and they just did their thing. But this appears to not be the case... I love the new cope: "Bioware was always bad at writing"
 
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Outlier

Member
I am sorely disappointed by what I've heard, from 3 reviewers, so far.

My main concerns:
Poor companion character interactions + quests.
And biggest of all...
The sidelining of Solas, as the main antagonist. Solas as my main source of anticipation and they push him aside!?

Screw that. I won't be buy this game.
 

cormack12

Gold Member
I am sorely disappointed by what I've heard, from 3 reviewers, so far.

My main concerns:
Poor companion character interactions + quests.
And biggest of all...
The sidelining of Solas, as the main antagonist. Solas as my main source of anticipation and they push him aside!?

Screw that. I won't be buy this game.
Yeah the end of Inquisition pretty much made it clear the next arc was Solas. Even changing the name from Dreadwolf sucked. It was also a more interesting arc.

I mean I get why they changed it to The Veilguard but it feels way too Saturday morning cartoon for me compared to where we were heading.
 
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Kacho

Gold Member
I’m honestly feeling really relieved after seeing all these screenshots and videos.

I was worried that it’d be just good enough where I’d decide to give it a shot, only to be irritated by the little bits of wokeness and crappy Marvel dialog that popped up here and there.

But no, they put that shit right out there in the open and wear it proudly. That makes it a really clear hard pass for me. Now I can enjoy laughing at the shitshow that ensues, and not waste any of my money/time playing this horrendous shit, nor waste any of my energy wondering whether BioWare could ever return to glory.
Yep. I was on the fence with you but I’m out after today. Gonna play Vampire Survivors DLC and possibly Red Dead PC until Dragon Quest 3 drops.

Rip BioWare.
 

Astray

Member

The theory that comes closest to mind is it being an editor and not him, but even then, it's spectacularly dumb to break NDA on one of the most high-profile (and likely most controversial) games of 2024.

(Yes I acknowledge that my affection for the content is kinda clouding my judgement for now).
 
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DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
Yep. I was on the fence with you but I’m out after today. Gonna play Vampire Survivors DLC and possibly Red Dead PC until Dragon Quest 3 drops.

Rip BioWare.
I’m trying to finish up Metaphor: Refantazio so I can move on to Ys X and Romancing Saga 2 remake. Too many games, not enough time. And especially not enough time for Veilguard.
 

PeteBull

Member
I was banned because I thumbs upped a tweet from someone asking if I was going to review Cyberpunk. I was told later that I was given 3-4 hours in the middle of the night(for me) to defend myself.
I still don't have a defense because I still never was told what the issue exactly was with me personally. I was then told later by a mod to "Not even try to fight it, they threw you under the bus and its probably not worth it."
Later I did find out that I am considered WOKE to many of you because of my like for games like Sims 4 and Life is Strange, Oxenfree, and ANTIwoke to them because I tease everyone.

I am VERY happy with being disliked by both groups. I do love some chaos.
I say it as ur longtime subscriber(dont even know how many years it was but back then u didnt get any review copies for games and u only did review vids on ur yt channel- no podcasts no nothing else)- im antifeminist and antiwoke as only possible, im not even a westerner, the "antiwoke ppl" are perfectly fine with every1 enjoying w/e games they enjoying.

We just dont like when ingenuine ppl try to force us to like stuff we getting disgusted by, we got our traditional values that worked for society for centuries if not milienia, we see how nasty it got when progressive worldview got into mainstream and got pushed hard, what is worse- it gets more and more insane every year and ofc we arent ok with that.

And to prove it quickly, i remember back in the days u mentioned in one or maybe even few vids u are martial artists/got ur own dojo/school and teaching classes- and u do it as an escape/thing that brings u peace etc :)
Just throwing it out there so u know im a random guy on the net with all possible "mysogonist/right wing" views and still perfectly fine watching/enjoying ur review vids and do it for long years :p
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
A side note as I just started watching that linked Skill Up video. The first thing he says is "reviews are opinion. " ... if you are a professional reviewer, please stop thinking that is correct. It's meant to be objective, not opinion. That's why gaming journalism is so fucking shit. It's a small thing, but "opinions" have caused this state of gaming after years and years of morons getting a platform (not calling this reviewer a moron, more the "big" go to "journalists)

I am still watching it, and so far the review seems good. The game looks and sounds horrendous. Animations, facial expressions, smooth no pore skins, voice acting, writing etc are terrible. The characters' animation are so off putting and then paired with the low quality writing is just so bad. The characters look and act like they drink botox.

People that reviewed this so highly should be ashamed.

Side note.......reviews of video games actually ARE opinions. That's the truth!
 

damidu

Member
seems better than i expected, ok i'll bite

Would be interesting to see if this score transfer into sale, black myth wukong only 81 on meta and sold 20 million in a month, this should be higher than it, right?
lol by that clown logic metaphor will sell 30million copies in a month i guess.
 

Solarstrike

Gold Member
It's not on Steam? Could have sworn I seen it on there a few months ago. I see it's on the Epic Store though, smh
 
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xenosys

Member
A side note as I just started watching that linked Skill Up video. The first thing he says is "reviews are opinion. " ... if you are a professional reviewer, please stop thinking that is correct. It's meant to be objective, not opinion. That's why gaming journalism is so fucking shit. It's a small thing, but "opinions" have caused this state of gaming after years and years of morons getting a platform (not calling this reviewer a moron, more the "big" go to "journalists)

I am still watching it, and so far the review seems good. The game looks and sounds horrendous. Animations, facial expressions, smooth no pore skins, voice acting, writing etc are terrible. The characters' animation are so off putting and then paired with the low quality writing is just so bad. The characters look and act like they drink botox.

People that reviewed this so highly should be ashamed.

I remember him saying the same thing before he took FFXVI apart last year, despite that game being largely well-received, so it's not really something he's only recently added into his videos.

In any case, him prefacing his opinion about the game with "it's only my subjective opinion guys, there are others out there" is probably just a way of disarming certain groups of people in his community that can't take views that doesn't align with their own worldview very well.
 
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