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With consoles now doing double duty as game servers for mobile devices shouldn't they also run hybrid / mobile games natively

onQ123

Member
I'm pretty sure I've set up more servers than you ever have...

Good for you it still doesn't change the fact that PS4 is being used as a game server

You heard it here first kids, hosting a multiplayer game is indistinguishable from running a single-player game and encoding it into video format for transmission to a client display device.

Where is that being said?


Y'all the one's trying to limit the term server to just one of it's functions .
 

Shifty

Member
Where is that being said?


Y'all the one's trying to limit the term server to just one of it's functions .
And you're the one failing to explain yourself to the degree that nobody reading your posts can tell what you actually mean.

The goalposts shift on a post-by-post basis, it's impossible to actually keep up with.
 
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onQ123

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And you're the one failing to explain yourself to the degree that nobody reading your posts can tell what you actually mean.

The goalposts shift on a post-by-post basis, it's impossible to actually keep up with.

Nothing has changed since my 1st post , what goalpost is being moved?
 

xool

Member
This makes me think about that odd slide in Sony's recent IR presentation - the one that says :

The 99, Not the 1

I wonder if this is the sort of thing they meant - ignoring requests from a vocal 1%, and concentrating on what 99% of players actually want/use ?
 
Please bump this thread when console manufacturers will allow us to set up game (not streaming) servers for MP games like Fortnite and Apex Legends.
 

DanielsM

Banned
Please bump this thread when console manufacturers will allow us to set up game (not streaming) servers for MP games like Fortnite and Apex Legends.

Technically any time you play P2P, your console is acting as a host (or could be)... it has very little to do with console manufacturers, heck, you could setup dedicated hosts for some games on the original Xbox and Xbox 360.

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DanielsM

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Part of the problem with you is you are failing to understand that your posts are confusing as fuck.

See your original post.

What Phil is talking about is like PS Remote Play.

Like PS5 could be a game server for PS1 , PS2 , PS3 ,PS4 , PS5 console games but also a server for PSP , Vita & also a new hybrid platform that's basically mobile games that's running on PS5 but with mobile interface that use your phone's touch screen , IMU , camera & so on
 
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onQ123

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Part of the problem with you is you are failing to understand that your posts are confusing as fuck.

See your original post.

What Phil is talking about is like PS Remote Play.


"Turn your Xbox One into your own personal console server "



 
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Man there’s a whole lotta Dunning-Kruger up in this thread. :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:
Let's just say that some people need to learn the difference between p2p with low player counts (i.e. Uncharted/TLOU) vs dedicated server games with high player counts (Fortnite/Apex).

I didn't even mention mobile games, because that's irrelevant with game servers.
 

onQ123

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Let's just say that some people need to learn the difference between p2p with low player counts (i.e. Uncharted/TLOU) vs dedicated server games with high player counts (Fortnite/Apex).

I didn't even mention mobile games, because that's irrelevant with game servers.

Again what the hell are you talking about?
 

TwiztidElf

Gold Member
Amazed that this thread hasn't been bumped already since yesterday. And I think I did see this talked about already in a thread yesterday somewhere.
Despite the OP's confused message, Phil Spencer talks it right here in the interview with Gerstman. 24.10
 
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Ninjamaeden

Neo Member
A console is not going to become a server because it can transmit a video stream to a mobile. These companies are fooling you with the worst kind of gobbledegook.
 

DanielsM

Banned
A console is not going to become a server because it can transmit a video stream to a mobile. These companies are fooling you with the worst kind of gobbledegook.

That is a server in client-server model. The issue is, the OP wasn't exactly saying what he thinks he was saying, matter of fact, he wasn't very clear even in follow-up questions, imo. Your PS4 is acting as a server for the remote play, if the game is P2P than its possible your PS4 is not only a server for remote play but also the game host as well.

 
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M1chl

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I hope you sincerely only play a mentally slow person, hosting a server and sending a video to the mobile device is HARDLY same thing. Well hardly, it's completely fucking ridiculous.
 

onQ123

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I hope you sincerely only play a mentally slow person, hosting a server and sending a video to the mobile device is HARDLY same thing. Well hardly, it's completely fucking ridiculous.
So you're saying that Sony & Microsoft don't know what a server is? because both of them said their consoles can be used as game streaming servers
 

M1chl

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So you're saying that Sony & Microsoft don't know what a server is? because both of them said their consoles can be used as game streaming servers
Sure, but server is not the same, there are many type of servers and if you believe that that puny CPU could handle load of hosting online game, I highly doubt that, not he mention people's internet latency, when you are not in some data center which is on NIX. What they could do (gaming companies) is to release after some time open source server code for their game, which would could then be run on some VPS platform and sure, it would be cheaters there, but technically games would work to their full potential.
 

onQ123

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Sure, but server is not the same, there are many type of servers and if you believe that that puny CPU could handle load of hosting online game, I highly doubt that, not he mention people's internet latency, when you are not in some data center which is on NIX. What they could do (gaming companies) is to release after some time open source server code for their game, which would could then be run on some VPS platform and sure, it would be cheaters there, but technically games would work to their full potential.

I never said anything about hosting online games that was people who seen the word Server & limited to only one use.
 

onQ123

Member

What are you trying to show here? PS5 will be a sever for PS4 & PS5 games but if it was BC with the other PS & PSP it would also be a server for those games.

I thought you was talking about hosting online matches or something.
 

Jagz

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I'd rather just get a portable gaming PC, like the GPD Win Max and use Game Pass for PC on it, than do xCloud streaming on my phone.
 

onQ123

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So now that the Portal has been opened will PlayStation cross the streams & add touchscreen input to some games or port some touchscreen games from the smartphones to PS5 with a 'Portal' label on them?

Or just make games that have Portal mode or settings so they will work better while streaming?
 

onQ123

Member
With the success of Portal should PlayStation make a push for some PS5 games that can be enjoyed in short bursts (Basically mobile time wasters )
 
With the success of Portal should PlayStation make a push for some PS5 games that can be enjoyed in short bursts (Basically mobile time wasters )
Bring back Uncharted 2-3 MP in remastered form (not a remake).

I could play a match for 10 minutes and then stop.
 

Felessan

Member
With the success of Portal should PlayStation make a push for some PS5 games that can be enjoyed in short bursts (Basically mobile time wasters )
They already have quite a few and continue to expand their gaas library, many of them came as mobile/PC/console crossovers
 
Need some new games like Lumines & LocoRoco but with PS5 level graphics
Bring back Uncharted 2-3 MP remastered at native 4K 120 fps:



Trust me, people will love it!

It still holds up pretty well in RPCS3 and the gameplay is very simple ("pick up and play")... not everyone wants to play Fortnite.
 

Agent X

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With the success of Portal should PlayStation make a push for some PS5 games that can be enjoyed in short bursts (Basically mobile time wasters )

Certainly. There are a lot of fun "pick up and play" games in their back catalog already. These games could be enjoyable on the big TV, or on mobile devices using Remote Play.

Sony recently began converting PSP games to PS4/PS5. One area of the PSP library that they haven't touched yet are the PSP Minis. If you remember, these were small (under 100 MB) games that sold for less than $10, which were built for PSP, although most could also be played on PS3. There were some great games among the Minis, including ports of mobile phone games, classic arcade games, and smaller indie games from other consoles and computers. They should consider bringing these games to PS4/PS5 as well.
 

onQ123

Member
With the server feature becoming a major part of PS5 now with Portal I'm hoping PS6 go all in on being a server for remote devices & even allow streaming to 2 or more portal devices at a time for multiplayer games .
 
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