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We need more TLOUS and Horizon remakes ans remasters.

 

[Parazels]

You just got MGS1 at 1080@30 with texture warping!

Enjoy the "remaster", peasants!

 

[adamsapple]

Can someone remaster this post please?

 

[deriks]

Some cases are needed, like Persona 3

Some cases are... Weird. Resident Evil 4 original still holds up. Remake is great, but will be forever a shadow of the original

Some cases are dumb from every scenario, like Last of Us 1. I mean, it's a fucking re-release. Doesn't need to be threat more than that

And some cases are just dumb in other way, like GTA trilogy. I mean, the game is fucked since dev day one. Yes, dev day one. Cursed from the beginning. We needed a full engineering from the start to reconstruct those PS2 games, not those monstrously weird phone versions we got

 

[Northeastmonk]

I’m not all that convinced a brand new IP would be any good. I’d rather have a remake or remaster than a new idea that sucks. I’m happy with what we’ve gotten so far. If anything, they can remake and remaster even more games. I’ll support it 100%.

You see what companies do to make money. They make a service game and then some of them get shutdown 8-10 months down the road if they can’t make money.

 

[Filben]

I generally don't hold a strong opinion either for or against remakes opposed to some members of the gaming community.

There are, I think, rather unnecessary remakes or remastered but generally the output is warranted for two reasons:
a. through backwards compatibility the original game is still availabe and therefore playable on modern platforms and reach an audience and are preserved until that generation completely dies out and the next one doesn't have BC.
b. as for remakes, in addition to outdated visuals they offer vastly different gameplay conventions from what we see today and are worthy to be explored with (some) modern conventions gameplay-wise.

For a.: remasters of games like Soul Reaver or the classic Tomb Raider anthology makes sense because they aren't available on modern platforms (except for PC). They are slightly modernised and have (optional) QoL options but can also be experienced the way you did back then. Availability and the ability to play these games without keeping two decades old hardware around and plugged is one of the primary reasons you would want them to have.
For b.: Remakes like Resident Evil are in my opinion well-warranted. They offer a vastly different gameplay with different shooting mechanics, a different camera perspective completely changing how to perceive the environment and monsters and obstacles; therefore the whole gaming experience is different (not inherently better, mind you), additional or altered content to provide a (somewhat) new experience even for veterans of the original game.

And then you have the notorious TLOU Remake/Remastered that doesn't fit in either of the above category. This is a rather rare instance, though. Most remastered games or remakes make sense to me, especially if you're at home mostly on console and can't access several decades worth of BC like on PC.

 

[RJMacready73]

Still waiting on the only remaster I actually care about, a full on PS5 remake of the Vita Uncharted game, never played it and I've replayed the others a ton of times that I've actually considered buying a vita just for that 1 game

 

[KellyM]

I am fine with remasters or remakes. I get to play some games I missed out on originaly and don't have to buy the original hardware. I would love is Sega did some remakes of Panzer Dragoon Saga, Burning Rangers and Shining Force 3 all parts this time. I miss owning and playing them.

 

[Punished Miku]

They're following what consumers buy, not the other way around. Most new IP fail these days because people are increasingly conservative with their taste. Making DLC and remakes elligible for the Geoffs is the perfect culmination of what modern consumers want.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

What's going to be crazy is if PS6 is still backwards compatible with PS4 and PS4 games that had remasters for PS5 get PS6 remasters.

What do you want to play on your PS6? Game A (PS4), Game A Remastered (PS5) or Game A Reremastereder (PS6)?
Bonus points if it's RE4 Remake so you can play RE4 (PS4), RE4R (PS4), RE4R (PS5) and RE4 Remake Remastered (PS6).

Read this as "ReRe-Master-Tarder.

 

[Robb]

I haven't heard that but if it came to pass,
and the new game represented a significant upgrade, Nintendo fans would be all over it.

Of course, and I’m sure it makes sense for them. Low effort, potentially high reward. I just think it’s a waste, even more so when the system is backwards compatible.

Iirc it was part of a leak of several codenames where “Banquet” was rumored to be Mario Party Jamboree (now confirmed), “Edward” was rumored to be Echoes of Wisdom (now confirmed) and “U-King-O” is rumored to be a BotW remaster/remake (since the original game’s codename is “U-King”).

 

[lughnasadh123]

Not seeing a problem if new games are coming out and the demand is there that the rewhatevers are selling well enough for them to keep getting released. Seems like people are happy.

 

[rm082e]

If you don't want these games, don't buy them.

If you're expecting studios and publishers to spend more time and money making new IP, your expectations are not aligned with the reality of the business. It's very expensive and risky to make new IP and most of them aren't successful enough to keep staff employed through the cycle of making the next game. If the industry can make higher margins with remakes, that's a good thing for job stability.

I've yet to see any reasonable person make a case that there aren't enough good quality games available to fill the time they have to play games. If you've already got access to more games than you have time to play, why is it a problem if more games come out that you're not interested in playing?

 

[Deerock71]

Maybe gaming has peaked, and this is all we're going to get forevermore. I'm gonna go play some more Disco Elysium now.

 

[StereoVsn]

As long as they're not altered too much in terms of adding wokeness to them, then I welcome remakes and remasters. They allow for game preservation while bringing them up to modern technological standards. It certainly beats most of the woke garbage and shitty GaaS games being released today.

How could you say that with a year of new tremendous releases such as Concord, Veilguard and Outlaws!? Development and marketing for these amazing titles was anywhere from $600 mil to almost $1billion. Such a value!

 

[RoboFu]

And most are not even needed ...

But the reason is new games suck.. people rather have old gameplay in a new skin.

 

[Madflavor]

Oh no, so many good remakes of good games. Reliving classics. Exposing young gamers to the glory days. The humanity. Please stop.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

 

[SHA]

i can guarantee some of the game studios are developing some remakes for next gen now lmao

Sounds like they gave up on consoles and wants easy sneaky quit.

 

[Pandawan]

I am fine with amount of remakes/remasters. In fact i want more. I want all the old games be easily acessable on modern devices. If remakes/remasters are made by some third party devs and not harm the development of the new games, they are absolutely fine.

 

[Fbh]

It's only a problem if they get in the way of new games being made, which for the most part I don't think they do.
We got persona 3 Remake but we also got Metaphor (Atlus also published Unicorn Overlord), we got Dead Rising Remake and some collections but we also got Dragons Dogma 2 and Kunitsu Gami with MH Wilds coming soon, etc

Games take longer to make now. Remasters are a relatively cheap way to still get some releases and generate revenue in between those 4-5 years it takes most AAA studios to make games these days.

And honestly even if this hasn't been the most amazing year ever I think it was still a solid year with stuff like Helldivers 2, Infinite Wealth, Unicorn Overlord, Stellar Balde, Wukong, Astro Bot, Metaphor, Dragons Dogma 2, Kunitsu-Gami and more. It was an off year for big western studios so I understand people who aren't into Japanese games might have found it underwhelming, but next year is looking great in that regard with Kingdom Come 2, Doom The Dark Ages, GTA 6, Avowed, Ghost of Yotei and more.

 

[simpatico]

The real problem is the unneeded remasters. I'd say the majority of your list was completely unnecessary on PC. Console is a different story because those customers get bent over in terms of backwards compatibility. Even Dead Space 1, imo on PC it holds up just fine. Would have loved to see EA pour those resources into a new sci-fi horror IP.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

stop buying that shit... they will stop making them!

And FF7 Remake does not count as the main point of the game is that it's kind of a continuation of the original story. Everything else... fuck it.

 

[The artful mincer]

stop buying that shit... they will stop making them!

And FF7 Remake does not count as the main point of the game is that it's kind of a continuation of the original story. Everything else... fuck it.

This.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

I don't mind Remakes at least for the Resident Evil ones which have all been fun and would like to see Code Veronica, Outbreak, 0, and 5 get remade.

 

[Magic Carpet]

I agree and Im ashamed I bought several from that list.
It’s my fault.
Also playing a rerelease of Spyro on Gamepass.
Sorry.

Edit-I just realized I bought all these on PC, moving my library over from the consoles was probly my main intent.

 

[daninthemix]

It's insane, but what's more insane is how excited people seem to get for each and every one.

 

[FinalBossWithTheMostPower]

Remakes in the form of Silent Hill 2 make sense.

Remasters in the form of "The Thing," do not.

 

[ResilientBanana]

The LGBTQ crowd can’t seem to make good games that focus on being games rather than political statements. So, they need to remake and remaster the old, good ones.

 

[rofif]

It's insane, but what's more insane is how excited people seem to get for each and every one.

What's so insane? That people want their favorite games refreshed with new graphics and qol improvements?
Really? that's so surprising?
I will take a good remake over some woke new crap game any day. Even if it's slightly compromised like Dead Rising Remake.
But stuff like re2 or 4 remake? Amazing games. Even better than originals

 

[diffusionx]

What's so insane? That people want their favorite games refreshed with new graphics and qol improvements?
Really? that's so surprising?
I will take a good remake over some woke new crap game any day. Even if it's slightly compromised like Dead Rising Remake.
But stuff like re2 or 4 remake? Amazing games. Even better than originals

Dead Rising Remake is woke crap though

 

[rofif]

Dead Rising Remake is woke crap though

That's what I thought after seeing crowbcat video.
But I got it and you know what? It's a great fucking game. I would be stupid if I let few changed lines of dialogue in non playable cutscenes affect THE WHOLE GAME.
It's worth playing even despite the censorship. I don't think people would notice much of it without videos pointing it all out.

 

[diffusionx]

That's what I thought after seeing crowbcat video.
But I got it and you know what? It's a great fucking game. I would be stupid if I let few changed lines of dialogue in non playable cutscenes affect THE WHOLE GAME.
It's worth playing even despite the censorship. I don't think people would notice much of it without videos pointing it all out.

The censorship is what makes it woke. If you like it, it's fine, but this trend of people complaining about woke games and then playing the woke games and then saying the woke game they like isn't woke because it just isn't, ok? is retarded.

 

[daninthemix]

What's so insane? That people want their favorite games refreshed with new graphics and qol improvements?
Really? that's so surprising?
I will take a good remake over some woke new crap game any day. Even if it's slightly compromised like Dead Rising Remake.
But stuff like re2 or 4 remake? Amazing games. Even better than originals

Well those 2 RE games I certainly won't complain about, they were good and a new experience. But a lot of remakemasters aren't anything other than the same game again.

 

[rofif]

The censorship is what makes it woke. If you like it, it's fine, but this trend of people complaining about woke games and then playing the woke games and then saying the woke game they like isn't woke because it just isn't, ok? is retarded.

yes, the censorship is bad but it doesn't affect the gameplay.
The new graphics, contorls and qol stuff wins over few censored things.
It's not black and white.

 

[diffusionx]

yes, the censorship is bad but it doesn't affect the gameplay.
The new graphics, contorls and qol stuff wins over few censored things.
It's not black and white.

"i wont play this woke new game but I will play this woke remaster" - ok fine, but this is the point right? This is why these companies do tthis.The DR remaster cost a small fraction of a new game, it's pretty mid, but people will buy it because they like the old one even with the changes. Thsi is why these companies do this, even the chuds like the ones that post here will rationalize it.

 

[rofif]

"i wont play this woke new game but I will play this woke remaster" - ok fine, but this is the point right? This is why these companies do tthis.The DR remaster cost a small fraction of a new game, it's pretty mid, but people will buy it because they like the old one even with the changes. Thsi is why these companies do this, even the chuds like the ones that post here will rationalize it.

There is level of gradience here. You are loosing whole forest for 1 tree.
I don't like the censorship too but like everything else. Afterall the old game is still there

 

[Hrk69]

But I got it and you know what? It's a great fucking game. I would be stupid if I let few changed lines of dialogue in non playable cutscenes affect THE WHOLE GAME.

I agree. But, a few changes?

 

[rofif]

I agree. But, a few changes?

Erotica points is the worst one for me. I like the horny stuff in these games.
But other stuff? I don't mind the few changes in cutscenes. I mean I mind it but it's a cutscene and then it's over.

 

[Bridges]

I'm at peace with the existence of remakes and remasters. Sometimes it feels excessive and unnecessary to me like Horizon and Until Dawn but for some it is nice to have a new shiny version for newer hardware so whatever.

Remasters and DLC should not be up for GOTY though. Remakes, I can see the argument for it but it feels weird. It'd better be a damn good remake to get nominated imo.

 

[cash_longfellow]

I’m cool with it, simply because 90% of bigger budget new games these days are trash.

 

[Spukc]

I’m cool with it, simply because 90% of new games these days are trash.

try the indie section on steam.
this is wrong

 

[EN250]

Yes, there are too many remakes/remasters, but some are so good like Demon's Souls and REmake 4 that I don't mind it at all

 

[cash_longfellow]

try the indie section on steam.
this is wrong

I should edit this to say bigger budget games. I still fucks with a lot of Steam indies.

 

[Efren is G.O.A.T.]

I've been saying this many times now and I'll say it again.

IN MOST CASES BUT NOT ALL: remake of a loved game > new IP

 

[JayK47]

As the AAA gaming industry is clearly creatively bankrupt, this will only get worse. There will be remasters of remakes or remasters. I would rather play a remaster of Dragon Age Origins than sit through the vomit inducing dialog of Veilguard. But hell, as we have seen, you are better off playing Origins with mods than playing a remaster, as the developers will somehow make it worse. Cutting content, editing content, adding bugs and glitches. These AAA studios are just too bloated and full of activists to make anything decent anymore.

 

[SweetTooth]

You just got MGS1 at 1080@30 with texture warping!

Enjoy the "remaster", peasants!

I love MGS collection, Im enjoying the s*** out of all games

 

[Badlucktroll]

When Re REmake drops people will trip about remakes of remakes

 

[Alan Wake]

Well, you don't gave to buy them. Some remasters are silly. If the game is not more than a few years old I'm not interested in a remaster. But remakes of games that are 20 years old or more is something else. Resident Evil 2, 3 and 4 and Silent Hill 2 are all great games, and as a fan of the original games I am thankful for being able to play them again with modern graphics, voice acting and controls.

 

[nial]

1) they have been exploited unashamedly by Sony, especially with TLOU and Horizon. You may argue that so many Switch 1st party games are WiiU porta, but nobody bought a WiiU anyway and, lo and behold, when they released on a console people actually wanted, they turned out to be good games. No reason to keep them on a failed hardware.

Kinda disingenuous to point this out as a Sony thing while giving Nintendo a pass, when their next first-party release is yet ANOTHER port of Donkey Kong Country Returns.