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Spider-Man by Insomniac Vs. Batman by Rocksteady
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The artful mincer
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Accept it isn't. Parry is now important in SM2 movement is more important you literally can't beat the most basic goons in sm2 with at least grasping those basics.The gadgets, abilities, air combat, level design and webs make it more interesting than arkham
In arkham you can win some fights just pressing triangle that's not engaging. Yes I know they throw some gimmick enemies to mix it up but it's still not very engaging even when with those additions. The gadgets in arkham aren't game changing either. It's fundamentally too reliant on animation pairing to be very interesting.
Ask why barely any traditional brawling one on one boss battles exist in the Franchise? It's because the combat system won't work with them.
cormack12
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MidGenRefresh
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Square, square, circle, square, square.
Krappadizzle
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Both series are pretty great. Hate to have to pick, but if I had to, I'd pick the Arkham games, I really don't have much bad to say about any of the Spider-Man games from Insomniac, but for me, it just boils down to preference. I prefer Arkham's art direction and tone more than Spiderman's. And Arkham's combat, especially in Knight was about peak superhero combat.
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TexMex
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Both are great.
I’d give the edge to Batman, mainly because of Asylum. I like the intentional, Metroidvania style design. It felt like a Batman Bioshock. I love City and Knight too, but not as much.
Spider-Man is the opposite, that series gets better with each game where Batman dipped a bit for me.
I’d give the edge to Batman, mainly because of Asylum. I like the intentional, Metroidvania style design. It felt like a Batman Bioshock. I love City and Knight too, but not as much.
Spider-Man is the opposite, that series gets better with each game where Batman dipped a bit for me.
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PCFanboy64
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I loved them both but the Batman trilogy wins for me. Arkham Knight was actually my favorite one outside of the driving sections.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
CherryFalls
Banned
The spiderman games are way to cringe and political. Batman games are classic.
Heisenberg007
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FunkMiller
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Arkham by a country mile.
intheinbetween
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Not sure if true but definitely close.
Anyways, what Rocksteady achieved with Arkham Asylum is simply amazing, storytelling, pace, graphics, characters, gameplay…
Insomniac is a great studio and certainly the Spiderman IP fits perfectly with its style, and yeah probably Spiderman 2 is one of their best games, but honestly they didn’t revolutionized the genre, the didn’t bring back from the grave to a classic comic IP, whereas Rocksteady did
Great titles, however I feel Rocksteady had a tougher challenge ahead and they over exceeded expectations
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Hugare
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Oh boy, I dont agree at all
The production values were ALWAYS top of the business with the Arkham games. Even with Asylum it was trading blows with the best games at the time. Knight has higher production values then most current gen games despite being from 2015
And you gotta be kidding me with the "hardly any animations" statement. Lets agree to disagree then.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Look at the video above.
The combat in Arkham is nothing special man. Spider-man blows it out of the water in terms of animation. It is not anywhere in the same galaxy.
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semiconscious
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the arkham series by several miles: rocksteady originated the combat system, & the batmans' rogues' gallery is uncontested...
MidGenRefresh
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I'm playing Asylum again and damn, this game is so well made. So, so well made. It makes me smile.
James Sawyer Ford
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If this is how you are playing SM you are doing it wrong.
digoutyoursoul
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What Rocksteady achieved with Batman Arkham Asylum with the combat, atmosphere and experience on 360/PS3 really showed how talented a studio they have been. It’s a shame Suicide Squad has so far turned out the way it has.
That’s not a knock to Spidey and Insomniac, it’s a great set of games in their own right and another talented studio who I like particularly after Sunset Overdrive. I just feel the Arkham trilogy was a more enjoyable time overall.
I still remember downloading that Arkham demo and being blown away. That generation was great for demos and being surprised by the goodness of some titles. Now it’s more about watching streamers who are cushy with publishers play it pre release rather then experience it yourself.
That’s not a knock to Spidey and Insomniac, it’s a great set of games in their own right and another talented studio who I like particularly after Sunset Overdrive. I just feel the Arkham trilogy was a more enjoyable time overall.
I still remember downloading that Arkham demo and being blown away. That generation was great for demos and being surprised by the goodness of some titles. Now it’s more about watching streamers who are cushy with publishers play it pre release rather then experience it yourself.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The artful mincer
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Better than triangle, triangle, triangle, triangle, triangle, triangle
ChoosableOne
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I really enjoyed playing Batman 1 and 2. I own the first Spiderman game, but I got bored at the beginning, it was so easy, so I didn't continue. I'll definitely finish it one day since I paid for it
Probably it wasn't the right time for it.
Probably it wasn't the right time for it.
The artful mincer
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Triangle, triangle, triangle, triangle
The artful mincer
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Ah a man of culture!
Paulistano
Member
Batman is a classic and a masterpiece.
Spiderman is politics disguised as games.
Spiderman is politics disguised as games.
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TheloniusFabdul
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Batman
MastAndo
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I know there are some areas in which the Arkham games are superior, but I just enjoy the Spider-Man games more. I just like the feeling of being a superhuman, with a more free-flowing, exhilarating traversal (in a representation of the city I live and recognize, which is an added bonus) as opposed to the relatively slower and more gadget-based nature of the Batman games, with heavier reliance on stealth. It's just more fun to me. They're both series that anyone even remotely interested in the genre should be playing though.
semiconscious
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seriously. spidey fans don't even want to go here...nah
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Spider-Man has way, WAY better Set pieces, story, and traversal.
Literally the 3 most important aspects of a super hero game.
So Spider-Man
Literally the 3 most important aspects of a super hero game.
So Spider-Man
Maitre_Piccolo
Neo Member
Spider-Man 2 is very good but to me the overall Arkham formula is better, especially combat wise.
I don't understand why people think the Spider-Man combat is copy pasted from Arkham. Spider-Man combat is actually a hybrid system that borrows only some aspects of Arkham combat, but that is overall way more traditional. In Spider-Man the attack button is always a predetermined string, like in a normal beat them up. It's a string because you can continue in the same direction, on the same enemy. In Arkham the attack button is not a string when you are in free flow, which is basically 90% of the time. Spider-Man combat is a lot more similar to Gotham Knights combat.
I don't understand why people think the Spider-Man combat is copy pasted from Arkham. Spider-Man combat is actually a hybrid system that borrows only some aspects of Arkham combat, but that is overall way more traditional. In Spider-Man the attack button is always a predetermined string, like in a normal beat them up. It's a string because you can continue in the same direction, on the same enemy. In Arkham the attack button is not a string when you are in free flow, which is basically 90% of the time. Spider-Man combat is a lot more similar to Gotham Knights combat.
VulcanRaven
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I have only played the first Spider-Man and I don't think it beats Arkham Knight.
Slothbeing1209
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You all said Spider-man copy Batman combat.
I always thought Batman combat copy from Ass creed. But with gadgets?
Same shit, attack attack parry attack?
Spider-man copy stealth gameplay from Batman for sure. And it's suck. Both series.
I always thought Batman combat copy from Ass creed. But with gadgets?
Same shit, attack attack parry attack?
Spider-man copy stealth gameplay from Batman for sure. And it's suck. Both series.
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the riddler stuff dq batman
Topher
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The riddler stuff is optional. MJ missions are not.
Personally, I like the riddler stuff.
VenomousCoffee
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The Batman games are better in every way: much better combat, more interesting characters, and don't have the gross politics.
Freelance Yakuza
Member
I had a lot of fun with the main missions in Spider-Man 1 (not so much in Miles Morales), but that is it. The enemies are boring to fight against, whereas in Batman I was always seeking more fights.
Arkham games had a good package of quality side content too.
It's just impossible to compare, it's another level
And again, I loved the first Spider-Man
Arkham games had a good package of quality side content too.
It's just impossible to compare, it's another level
And again, I loved the first Spider-Man
nkarafo
Member
This. The woke bullshit in the Spiderman games will age pretty badly. Batman games won't have this problem.
Little Mac
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Rockondevil
Member
Arkham by a landslide.
If we get rid of Sony fanboys in the Spider Man votes the gap would be even greater.
If we get rid of Sony fanboys in the Spider Man votes the gap would be even greater.
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