SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
I really don't know how anyone believes he plays Diablo 100 hours a week and still makes meaningful contributions to the 50 companies he supposedly helms.
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Elon Musk: "Having pronouns in a fantasy video game is totally unacceptable". "Stop killing art with woke propaganda"
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bundylove
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Seriously.
This whole thread is political as fuck.
I got a month ban for posting a cover of a book claiming bipartisan politics but this here flies?
I really dont want to tiptoe around stuff in fear to be banned.
Figured its best not to say anything ever but now a lot of threads are political one way or another.
Some clarification would be nice so i know what topics are accepted to politicises over and what isnt.
This whole thread is political as fuck.
I got a month ban for posting a cover of a book claiming bipartisan politics but this here flies?
I really dont want to tiptoe around stuff in fear to be banned.
Figured its best not to say anything ever but now a lot of threads are political one way or another.
Some clarification would be nice so i know what topics are accepted to politicises over and what isnt.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
It's videogame adjacent, so I guess it's fine.
Fake
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So is either have to do with woke or not.
I've begun outsourcing to AI when it involves responding to people with a completely irrational and distorted view of reality. It's super convenient!
Bernardougf
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I think responding NPCs with AIs is kind of beautiful.
Unknown Soldier
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Just because you are incapable of believing something doesn't make it not real
Fake
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And if I remember right, the Outer World director did an interview saying that his own game got too woke and that affect sales.
I mean, if even a director of his own game admit that, who am I to point out to someone that can't see as clear as day?
Unknown Soldier
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I decided to ask Perplexity AI about your post
Please analyze the accuracy of this claim: "Hard to cancel Elon Musk who produces fucking nothing and who doesn't own a single business that makes its profit through commerce. He makes his money from government subsidies and wanton corruption. To cancel him you would need to reform the whole government."
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The claim that "Elon Musk produces nothing and doesn't own a single business that makes its profit through commerce" is misleading and requires careful analysis.
Business Operations and Revenue Generation
Musk's Companies: Elon Musk is the CEO of several high-profile companies, including Tesla and SpaceX, both of which generate substantial revenue through commercial activities. Tesla, for instance, is a leading manufacturer of electric vehicles and has earned billions in sales, particularly benefiting from government incentives related to zero-emission vehicles. As of early 2024, Tesla had reportedly made around $9 billion from selling emission credits to other manufacturers
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. SpaceX, on the other hand, has secured lucrative contracts with NASA and the Department of Defense, amounting to billions for launching satellites and developing spacecraft
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.Government Contracts and Subsidies: While it is true that Musk's companies benefit from government contracts and subsidies, this is a common practice in many industries, particularly those involving advanced technology and infrastructure. For example, SpaceX received nearly $900 million in subsidies from the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to expand its Starlink internet service
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. Critics argue that these arrangements can lead to conflicts of interest, especially when Musk's influence extends into governmental roles aimed at reducing regulations that could benefit his businesses
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Claims of Corruption
The assertion that Musk's wealth stems primarily from "government subsidies and wanton corruption" reflects a broader critique of corporate influence in politics. Reports highlight concerns about Musk's close ties with political figures, particularly with Donald Trump, who has proposed appointing Musk to lead a new government efficiency commission. Critics label this as a potential conflict of interest due to Musk's businesses benefiting from government contracts while he influences regulatory frameworks
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.Public Scrutiny: Musk's businesses have faced scrutiny from various federal agencies for alleged misconduct, which some interpret as indicative of systemic issues within his corporate practices
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. This scrutiny raises questions about accountability and the ethical implications of his business operations.
Conclusion
In summary, while it is accurate to say that Musk leverages government contracts and incentives for his businesses, claiming he produces "nothing" overlooks the significant commercial activities conducted by Tesla and SpaceX. The narrative surrounding corruption and the need for governmental reform reflects ongoing debates about corporate power in politics rather than an objective assessment of Musk's business contributions. Therefore, while there are valid concerns regarding the intersection of his business interests with governmental roles, the claim lacks nuance regarding the actual operations and revenue generation of his companies.
Thanks, AI!
First post in 8 years. As a democrat, The "woke" shit would be fine if the progressives weren't literally trying to control speech so much and ban/deplatform anyone who disagrees with them. some of amount of this just giving others respect despite being very different than others. Some of it is little kids trying to get the world to bend the knee to their fetishes. I think a good compromise is eliminate the progressive vocabulary like "pronouns", or whatever but offer many choices for character creation including genders.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
More on point than the ChatGPT summary, gotta say.
bender
What time is it?
Buggy Loop
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Did you guys ever put your name in chatGPT to see if it brings up anything?
Thank god it had zero on me. Zilch. I prefer it stays that way. Employers would believe anything they find on there as hard truths, no defenses even around that. What's left, change your name?
Worse than facebooks sniffers. ChatGPT is too fast
Thank god it had zero on me. Zilch. I prefer it stays that way. Employers would believe anything they find on there as hard truths, no defenses even around that. What's left, change your name?
Worse than facebooks sniffers. ChatGPT is too fast
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Unknown Soldier
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It still disagrees with you, I wonder if you know that you have less nuance than an Internet chatbot, you're a real life NPC
Syphon Filter
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Based Elon.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
It just punts to a broader conversation about the decriminalization of political corruption, which is accurate but doesn't really undermine my point. I wasn't calling him a criminal (although he has been accused of fraudulent practices at certain points in his career), but there is something troubling about someone who has made the bulk of their fortune from government money having the kind of access to government influence that he does.
It's weird that "maybe we shouldn't let people bribe public officials for appointments" is seen as some kind of partisan political stance now rather than common sense. Fuck's wrong with everyone?
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GrouchyGamer
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So disappointed I'll never play that DQ3 remake but I won't upport the woke nonsense or censorship no matter what.
SlimySnake
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I have no love for Elon but he's right. Hearing They/them in dragon age is so retarded. this isnt about trans people. i have nothing but respect for people brave enough to go through surgery and cut their dicks off. id gladly call them she. they have earned it and im not an asshole. but they? gtfo.
I used to argue with one of my friends about how this pronoun shit will never get mainstream enough so that it comes to my work. Until it did last year. time proved him right, it took around 6 years, but he was right. And it was because of people like me who stuck our heads in the sand and let things get worse.
Now we cant afford to do the same because its pronouns today and it will be drag queens tomorrow. you give them an inch. they will take a mile.
I used to argue with one of my friends about how this pronoun shit will never get mainstream enough so that it comes to my work. Until it did last year. time proved him right, it took around 6 years, but he was right. And it was because of people like me who stuck our heads in the sand and let things get worse.
Now we cant afford to do the same because its pronouns today and it will be drag queens tomorrow. you give them an inch. they will take a mile.
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People will naturally push back against any ideology they don't want to submit to. Submission to ideology results in the partial loss of personal identity, and potentially sweeping changes to culture.
Yes, it's just a small element in a video game and it's not that serious--but on some level it is that serious. A lot of people just want things to go back to normal.
Kacho
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Hey at the very least it provides some fuel for online conversation and social apps rage which I guess turns out to be free marketing in the end.
But yeah aside from that I think it's a very dumb thing to add.
Buggy Loop
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I hate the pronouns, it doesn't even make any fucking sense in my native language, it's always (so far) seem to be an issue when I deal with Americans. I'm sure there's a nutjob at an university that is working overtime to make the pronouns stick in my language but so far, hasn't hit any form of open media, at least I'm not aware of them.
But Elon Musk ain't nowhere near normal. He's pro Transhumanism. Sounds cool and sci-fi, so its all fine I guess. But these cultural "wars" will be cute in comparison to the social clash of peoples being mind chipped or body heavily modified to whatever they want (including sexually of course). The ethics behind it all and the blood that will be spilled over these new issues will make the current situation pale in comparison. Could even result in war. Musk is triggered from his own kin being trans, but he would without a doubt be for anyone installing a 20 inch metallic dick, if the money came his way.
Will probably die before I see the extent of it, but Musk certainly ain't aiming for going back to normal. "Classical" humans will be a relic of the past.
Which is what? The highlighted portion makes it seem like a Japanese LGBTQ person who makes games or Japanese gaming can't pursue a similar representation as the West Independent of how it's occurring in the U.S.
Definitely serious concerns with transhumanism, I agree, but the early stages of neuralink-type tech will be a miracle to people with paralysis and other serious conditions. Preventing a dystopian cyberpunk outcome, well, we can try to figure out later.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah but I hope it's tested to hell and back before public deployment. I can see scenarios where tech like that can backfire too unfortunately.
Unknown Soldier
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The games started dev 3-5 years ago in order to release today
This is a consequence of chasing cultural trends that have recently changed
It's also a consequence of the Western games industry being heavily infected by a woke mind virus pandemic
Buggy Loop
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Oh for sure, but I feel there's no amount of testing possible to avoid hackers in and fuck things up.
Kdad
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There is no 'normal'. How far would you like to go back?
When we are there, what will you say to those that think it isnt 'going back' far enough and still isn't 'normal' for them?
What happens to your opinion of what is 'normal' when there are folks pushing to go further than you want to.
You'll have the EXACT same 'issue' you have now.
Humanity and society evolve, those that do not tend to be left behind after awhile.
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No fucking clue what you are on about, but sometimes it’s impossible to know the gender of a person based on their name alone, especially if they are from a different region. Pronouns help, because then I don’t have to lookup the person or their name.
cash_longfellow
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Thread is bait 
YOU PC BRO?!
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I have a solution…
Make Saudi mode available in every game… let us toggle that woke! Fair compromise I’d say.
O’ and while we are on the subject… would a feminism toggle be too much to ask? I demand a Tate mode immediately!!!
Make Saudi mode available in every game… let us toggle that woke! Fair compromise I’d say.
O’ and while we are on the subject… would a feminism toggle be too much to ask? I demand a Tate mode immediately!!!
Sure thing. Having read many books from the past 3500 or so years to the present day, and understanding the history of human civilization, it's actually quite easy to dismiss nonsense invented in the previous five minutes that tries to supplant reality.
Bernardougf
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Lol I can garantee buddy for the majority of the world that is a Normal on this subjects.. and probably is not what you and your 1% bubble think it should be
StreetsofBeige
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Hahaha, Musk bashing pronouns. And he's not going anywhere. He's even part of government now.
Raven117
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Yup. But the focus is on control… not the “wokeness” it pretends to champion.
Wokeness is just their avenue of choice. These same type of people were/are the intolerant evangelical right.
KURDISTAN YPG
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the problem is not the fantasy words being used in video games, the issue is changing old games to fit a new generation of gamers which doesnt exist, it totally fine to make new game with all the fantasy poltical correct words, just dont use it on games that builds its fan base before your feelings got hurt.
He's making a statement that "normal" itself doesn't exist and what was considered normal before is no longer normal by questioning how far back this normal would be for a given individual. In the past it was "normal" to own slaves. In the past it was normal for women not to vote. Would those be considered "normal" today?
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Plague Doctor
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Again, it is ponderous devs include things to solely pander and signal to a small fraction of a small fraction of the total gaming audience. And if you know the inclusion will turn off a sizeable portion... it makes no sense unless it is solely for the vanity of a creative lead. How many new consumers do you get verses how many do you lose by this one added on virtue signal?
I'll never understand why they shoehorn this shit in when it doesn't even make sense to do so in the grander context of their game, world, etc. Even if said doesn't flop, but breaks even... is it worth it to alienate a large portion of your consumer base? I do not understand the business sense behind these moves,
I'll never understand why they shoehorn this shit in when it doesn't even make sense to do so in the grander context of their game, world, etc. Even if said doesn't flop, but breaks even... is it worth it to alienate a large portion of your consumer base? I do not understand the business sense behind these moves,
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Bernardougf
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Sorry Normal definitely exists .... you may disagree and theres nothing I can do.
Kdad
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What a well thought out rebuttal.
FunkMiller
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I'll take any bullshit from the west over a bunch of backwards, bigoted cunts who like to chop up journalists
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Exactly, it's submission to ideology. At least with books, games and films you can chose to spend your money elsewhere, but it's a different matter when you're forced to go along with the gender pronoun thing even if you find non binary pronouns and the idea there are dozens upon dozens of gender identities ridiculous. And its downright evil to push this ideology on impressionable children who haven't yet figured out who they are.
Bernardougf
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Yeah.. its pretty fucking hard to rebuttal crazy purple person n.50695995 trying for the millionth time to use the "there is no normal" argument ... is so fresh and grounded in reality that I had to really make an effort
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