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9800X3D review thread

analog_future

analog_future

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Fess said:
I’ve looked at many reviews and they all show similar results. Big difference in 1080p. Less in 1440p. Barely anything in 4K. If you have other results then please post, I planned to upgrade from a 7900x but it seems like a waste from what I’ve seen so far. The only graphs that show big gains, like hardware unboxed, are showing low res scenarios where your system is CPU limited but if you’re playing at higher res the GPU will be the limit.
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thuGG_pl said:
For example from polish purepc:
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There are few games that even in 4k gets nice boost:
BG3, Assetto Corsa Competizione, MS Flight sim, Total War Warhammer.
So there are games that can take advantage of this CPU. It's rare and upgarding from something strong last gen doesn't really make sense. But from few generations back it makes sense.
Also VR and sim users should be happy because improved 1% lows.
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It all depends on what GPU you're rocking. This is the top gaming CPU and if you're gaming at high resolutions, it really only makes sense to pair it with the top gaming GPU (ie the RTX 5090 and maybe the RTX 5080). Otherwise it is indeed a waste (other than for futureproofing if you plan to upgrade your GPU down the line).

Like, if you're gaming at 4K with a 4070 or something, of course this CPU doesn't make sense. The 4070 will be bottlenecking the hell out of your setup.
 
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Fess

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thuGG_pl said:
For example from polish purepc:
www.purepc.pl

Test procesora AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Następca AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D to najlepszy procesor do gier! Intel ma DUŻY problem | PurePC.pl

Test procesora AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Następca AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D to najlepszy procesor do gier! Intel ma DUŻY problem (strona 24) Test, opinia i recenzja procesora AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, który jest szybszy od AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D i procesorów Intela. AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D to najlepszy procesor do gier.
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There are few games that even in 4k gets nice boost:
BG3, Assetto Corsa Competizione, MS Flight sim, Total War Warhammer.
So there are games that can take advantage of this CPU. It's rare and upgarding from something strong last gen doesn't really make sense. But from few generations back it makes sense.
Also VR and sim users should be happy because improved 1% lows.
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Yeah I know exceptions exist but most games will hit the GPU limit before the CPU limit. It’s worth pointing out. I’m not trolling here like some seem to think. I too was looking forward to this release but then I looked at 1440p and 4K comparisons for the games I play and the big boost I wanted went poof.
 
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ap_puff

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9800x3D sells out within minutes
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hinch7

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twilo99 said:
Are prices in Asia generally a bit lower than what we get in the USA?
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Think it largely depends on where you go, the current climate and currency. In China, I would think so.. In places like Japan it looks quite expensive for new PC parts. And you may find local deals in lets say Microcenter have better prices.

In you UK you can save a lot in general. The 7800X3D for example is like £420 here. Whearas in China around £320. And thats with our GBP in the shitter. I'd imagine I'd save around £100 for the CPU on its own.
 
Celcius

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I'm jelly of everyone getting to install theirs tonight
Mine will be here Monday which is ok since I'll be out of town on Saturday
 
winjer

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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPUs Sold Out in Europe and US as Pre-Orders Deplete Incoming Shipments

Multiple reports indicate that AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D processors have been sold out in both the United States and European markets. European retailers have completely exhausted their stock of the Ryzen 7 9800X3D before the incoming shipments have even been delivered.
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Multiple reports indicate that AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D processors have been sold out in both the United States and European markets. European retailers have completely exhausted their stock of the Ryzen 7 9800X3D before the incoming shipments have even been delivered. This high demand has resulted in pre-orders being fully booked ahead of the actual availability of the CPUs. Retailers have all reported being out of stock for the Ryzen 7 9800X3D in Europe. The scarcity of the Ryzen 7 9800X3D has led Mindfactory to cancel pre-orders due to an inability to fulfill them. Additionally, the retailer has accumulated a significant number of pre-orders, resulting in the next shipment of Ryzen 7 9800X3D processors being sold out before arrival. The United States is experiencing similar availability issues, prompting scalpers to sell the Ryzen 7 9800X3D at prices exceeding the manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP).

On platforms such as eBay, the CPUs are listed for up to $999, with most priced around $750, representing a 56% increase over MSRP. The only locations with more consistent availability appear to be select brick-and-mortar stores operated by MicroCenter. The persistent high demand for the Ryzen 7 9800X3D suggests that supply shortages may continue to affect its availability in the near term.
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And of course, scalpers are part of the problem. Again.
 
Dr.D00p

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Why do gamers have to be such a bunch of impatient FOMO dumb asses.

Are their lives incomplete if they can't play their silly games at 250fps...instead of 230fps with their current CPUs, or something.

It's the one aspect of the gaming mentality I've come to truly despise.
 
CompleteGlobalSaturation

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winjer said:
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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPUs Sold Out in Europe and US as Pre-Orders Deplete Incoming Shipments

Multiple reports indicate that AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D processors have been sold out in both the United States and European markets. European retailers have completely exhausted their stock of the Ryzen 7 9800X3D before the incoming shipments have even been delivered.
www.guru3d.com www.guru3d.com



And of course, scalpers are part of the problem. Again.
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Completely out of stock in the UK. Very frustrating.

Why are companies so intent on producing so few chips?
 
winjer

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CompleteGlobalSaturation said:
Completely out of stock in the UK. Very frustrating.

Why are companies so intent on producing so few chips?
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I have seen several stores stating they will have more stock next week.

But it could a myriad of factors. Scalpers always reduce the amount of available products on stores, so they can sell the same products at a huge margin.
It could also be that AMD was not expecting so much demand.
Arrow Lake was released and it turned out to be a terrible CPU for gaming. And that left the 9800X3D as the absolute best gaming CPU for gaming.
So demand for it, is now a lot bigger than anyone expected.
The other reason is that a CPU with 3DV cache is more difficult to make.
 
twilo99

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Dr.D00p said:
Why do gamers have to be such a bunch of impatient FOMO dumb asses.

Are their lives incomplete if they can't play their silly games at 250fps...instead of 230fps with their current CPUs, or something.

It's the one aspect of the gaming mentality I've come to truly despise.
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In this instance some PC gamers can go from 120fps to 250fps and that’s substantial gain. But that’s an extreme case.

In my case, which is more in line with what you are saying, I have one of the best CPUs from 3 years ago (5800x3d) and I mainly played fast paced online shooters with CoD/Warzone taking the chunk of my time the last few years, so I can go from 165fps to 200+fps with this new CPU, which is not a small bump. It would require a new monitor, but it would be a meaningful upgrade.

Now, what you are saying applies much more to the console space where people upgrade for 3-5 FPS gains
 
GHG

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twilo99 said:
In my case, which is more in line with what you are saying, I have one of the best CPUs from 3 years ago (5800x3d) and I mainly played fast paced online shooters with CoD/Warzone taking the chunk of my time the last few years, so I can go from 165fps to 200+fps with this new CPU, which is not a small bump. It would require a new monitor, but it would be a meaningful upgrade.
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In your case it's not just a new CPU though, you'll also need a new motherboard and RAM.

And unless you've got a 4090, youre not going from 165fps to 200+fps either.

Today, the meaningful upgrade only exists for people who already have 4090's with an older CPU and game at 1080/1440p.
 
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twilo99

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GHG said:
In your case it's not just a new CPU though, you'll also need a new motherboard and RAM.

And unless you've got a 4090, youre not going from 165fps to 200+fps either.

Today, the meaningful upgrade only exists for people who already have 4090's with an older CPU and game at 1080/1440p.
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True, I would need to move to AM5, but I think even if you are on AM5 already with mid tier CPU the 9800X3D would provide a very nice overall boost.

CoD is CPU heavy so think I would get very close to 200 frames without upgrading my GPU, but I could be wrong.

My point was that this would be a substantial upgrade for a lot of PC gamers, even for those with relatively strong systems.
 
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winjer

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It's not so much the memory bandwidth. But that the 9800X3D can sustain higher clocks speeds, than the 7800X3D.
The 9800X3D has no issue maintaining 55250Mhz But the 7800X3D goes between 4800 to 4890Mhz. This is a 13% core clock difference.
This is blender, which is heavier than gaming workloads, but it's a good example of how the 9800X3D can maintain it's max speed more consistently.

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Gen.Grievous

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SolidQ said:
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Intel is completely dead for the enthusiast market. But that does result in now having to pay 500 bucks for a 8 core chip again. A little over a year ago the 7800X3D was just 350 bucks because the 14th series was about to launch and we all know what happened afterwards. We need Intel to recover or AMD will just keep increasing the price until we get another reset.
 
Celcius

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I checked again this morning and Amazon finally had the noctua nh-d15 G2 in stock so I was able to order it and have it scheduled to arrive on Monday (when the rest of my parts also show up). I can finally let this 13 year old NH-D14 rest. 🫡

In about 1.5 hours I'll check with Newegg to see if I can get a discount since the mobo and cpu I bought were available in a combo but I bought them separately (I've seen some people get that promotion added afterwards so won't hurt to check).

edit: They gave me a $50 discount but that's more than I expected so I'll take it.
 
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