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[David Ricardo]

The question then would be, what does Blackrock gets by getting games more inclusive.

It´s not just inclusivity, but a kind of inclusivity that confirms the narrative of a political worldview. Governments with that worldview then spend billions on weapons from blackrock owned companies to assist Ukraine, grant Blackrock contracts to rebuild the country, etc...

Blackrock loses 1 or 2 billion making shitty games and movies, and then makes tens of billions in contracts from the government.

 

[Plague Doctor]

Remember.

This all started cause one asshole wanted Steam to deplatform a South American man from simply informing customers what games a company worked on (which is public knowledge). He made a list of games SBI got paid to work on and said, "Do not recommend". Nothing else.

So, SBI wanted someone not to mention what games they worked on.

And a large portion of the gaming press then went on a coordinated gaslighting/defense campaign for this company. Funny how no one talks about the coordinated attempt to hide a consultancy company's involvement in the gaming industry.

 

[KuraiShidosha]

Speaks volumes about the work they're doing. Can't stand proudly behind your work because you know you're a corrupt piece of shit company doing bad work.

 

[laynelane]

Would be better if they just removed their website all together.

I think things are slowly, but inexorably, going in that direction. There's many companies like them, but due to the behavior of SBI's employees - the name has become something of a lightening rod for DEI and all its inherent problems in gaming. It also helps that the tracker (Sweet Baby Inc Detected) is popular and, I would argue, was a catalyst for all the push back against SBI and others of their ilk.

 

[Kacho]

I think things are slowly, but inexorably, going in that direction. There's many companies like them, but due to the behavior of SBI's employees - the name has become something of a lightening rod for DEI and all its inherent problems in gaming. It also helps that the tracker (Sweet Baby Inc Detected) is popular and, I would argue, was a catalyst for all the push back against SBI and others of their ilk.

Nailed it. The pushback on the SBI Detected group earlier this year was the beginning of the end for them. It did significant damage to SBI and the journalists defending them. Trying to turn this into “Gamergate 2.0” backfired.

 

[Crayon]

That's the woke mafia for you. This woman called me a mysoginist pig because I wouldn't bring her on as project I was working on. This is despite about 50% of the people I bring on are females. I didn't bring her on because she had a really shit attitude and I know she would disrupt the team's chemistry. So when I asked her to define misogynist, she got up and called me a loose booty faggot. I just smiled at her and laughed.

 

[Banjo64]

as if we need a list when they leave their hallmark in every game they work on:

 

[Bernardougf]

as if we need a list when they leave their hallmark in every game they work on:

What amazing coincidence all these square man looking jaws in female characters...

 

[laynelane]

Outrage sells, but when people are constantly called racists and bigots for not buying their games, some will push back. They constantly hear how the whitey is so horrible and we owe people from 400 years agonizing people, at some point it was going to happen.

So, what you are saying is they should be able to have the opinion that straight people are committing literal genocide against trans and gays, call people whatever they wish and people should just shut up and not say a word?

No, this is people’s hobbies and can say whatever the fuck they want and you can cry in your mom’s breasts if you want, I don’t care and neither does anyone else.

I don’t go around saying things to people because I just don’t care enough about them, but to the people that do say things and stand up to this idiocy, I salute you.

This company is all over videos saying how to scare developers into doing what they want by including race and sexuality to fear monger devs into putting idiocy into games.

Edit: please expound on how people are pushing this agenda? Not wanting to constantly be told your horrible is not an agenda, it is just being pure tired of it.

I've noticed the response to push back on SBI and other consulting companies often gets certain labels - incels, anti-woke are bad people, toxic gamers, far-right, etc. It's not surprising considering who we're dealing with here, but it completely ignores why a push back occurs. For quite some time, people were tolerant of DEI in their games. Sure, there was the occasional video or post about it, but most people accepted it. However, for a push back to occur, it means that it's gone beyond tolerance levels for many people. Instead of examining that simple principle, these consulting companies and those that defend them choose to deflect the problem onto gamers - ie. the paying audience. It's pure lunacy and that push back will keep increasing because of this fundamental problem and the obstinancy it shows.

I'd like to add one other reason to your excellent examples of why people are fed up - so many games, new and beloved IPs, are impacted by this. However, it rarely (if ever) results in a better product. This has been a consistent pattern too and it's no wonder more and more people are speaking up.

 

[Braag]

Hit detection company next

(They’re the consultants working to “fix” alien isolation 2)

Why do you even need a consultant for a game like that? It's a game about hiding from an alien...

 

[cormack12]

Star Wars: Outjaws

 

[RagnarokIV]

Why do you even need a consultant for a game like that? It's a game about hiding from an alien...

Hiding in a closet could be deemed offensive by the pseudo-intellectual deep dive amateur hour essays that Eurogamer publish on Sunday mornings.

I can almost see the article...

"How Alien: Isolation gave me the courage to step out of the closet
Subheader: Gaylien Vs Child Predator"

 

[MarV0]

The question then would be, what does Blackrock gets by getting games more inclusive.

There are tons of theories regarding that subject and the puzzle is quite big.

However, as always all you have to do to find the truth is just follow the money.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I never understood the blackrock stuff. Neither George Soros funding tons of left wing stuff. There must be some payoff at the end of the tunnel. Never digged into it.

 

[dano1]

Because small minded people would ban a game just because they were affiliated. Even if the game had no issues whatsoever.
So now everyone has less information so everyone can be happy now.

 

[RagnarokIV]

Because small minded people would ban a game just because they were affiliated. Even if the game had no issues whatsoever.
So now everyone has less information so everyone can be happy now.

 

[kiphalfton]

For all the shit the company got nobody ever commented how the website is absolute turd, an amateur level attempt done in 10 minutes? You really thought SE or the like will work with a company like that?

Why put any time, effort, money into a website, when they can rake in money doing the bare minimum...

 

[ClosBSAS]

Well SE has decided to stop working with them...lets hope the end is near

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Because small minded people would ban a game just because they were affiliated. Even if the game had no issues whatsoever.
So now everyone has less information so everyone can be happy now.

 

[EDMIX]

This is disingenuous. Consultancy firms like SBI aren't "making" games. They're third-party grou

Thats nice, you can ignore that too bud.

What ever you wish to define that as, you can ignore it and move on, you can't stop anyone from doing shit and why anyone would spend this much energy in hopes of stopping free will is beyond me.

They aren't necessary to the process at all.

I know right and its not necessary for you to care about it either lol, you are free to ignore it just as much as they are free to add in as much shit as you think isn't "necessary". Free Will is a wild concept you might want to get over bud.


So, don't worry, you can cry about this as much as you want, I got Metaphor ReFantazio to get back to lol

(you know, for those of us that just fucking play games instead of trying to stop them from existing cause "meh feeeelings womp womp") lol

Keep fighting the good fight, maybe 1 day you can get all humans to "get rid of this nonsense" with some mind control device lol

Good luck Officer Omni

 

[CGNoire]

Star Wars: Outjaws

Dead!

 

[dano1]

Funny coming from someone that just goes along with what everyone else says.

 

[CGNoire]

pretty sure this forum, especially this section of forum is about growth ass man buying video game, if you have no business here, what are you here for?

You know why.

 

[CGNoire]

Why waste time with people that deny/defend DEI? While we have a vast material proving they never do.

Why lose energy in this type of conversation when they never prove their claims?

How many videos of Sweet Baby Inc we still need to show yet complete deny?

Yep thats what Gaslighting for.

 

[CGNoire]

I never understood the blackrock stuff. Neither George Soros funding tons of left wing stuff. There must be some payoff at the end of the tunnel. Never digged into it.

Its a religion of the Ultra wealthy used to Alleviate Guilt and Existential Dread caused by the Wealth and Priviledge Disparity between them and the 99%.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Its a religion of the Ultra wealthy used to alievate guilt and existential dread caused by the wealth and priviledge disparity between them and the 99%.

It happens. When Spanish missionaries watched South American locals dropping dead in the streets from being worked to death, they decry that it looks like Hell on Earth. But they refuse to admit Spain, or even Spain's Deity played a part in killing those people. It is all about acting like they are "good guys" without having to pay the real price of Goodness.

No good deed goes unpunished. So fake good deeds are much cheaper than actually being good.

 

[delfrickintree]

Thats nice, you can ignore that too bud.

What ever you wish to define that as, you can ignore it and move on, you can't stop anyone from doing shit and why anyone would spend this much energy in hopes of stopping free will is beyond me.


I know right and its not necessary for you to care about it either lol, you are free to ignore it just as much as they are free to add in as much shit as you think isn't "necessary". Free Will is a wild concept you might want to get over bud.


So, don't worry, you can cry about this as much as you want, I got Metaphor ReFantazio to get back to lol

(you know, for those of us that just fucking play games instead of trying to stop them from existing cause "meh feeeelings womp womp") lol

Keep fighting the good fight, maybe 1 day you can get all humans to "get rid of this nonsense" with some mind control device lol

Good luck Officer Omni

Theres a stereotype about people who talk lots of smack because they want to OBFUSCATE the issue. Guess what it is. You fit the bill good ol chap. what is your end goal

 

[ahtlas7]

What I would give to see the ‘consultant’ documents they provide to developers.

 

[Joramun]

"Alan Wake II - Authenticity & Sensitivity"

Authentic to being woke and sesitive to reality and truth.

There's one part where the characters claim racism in a town where all the characters are diverse as fk.

Sb are so narrow minded that they can't even see how stupid their own decisions are.

 

[Bernardougf]

Because small minded people would ban a game just because they were affiliated. Even if the game had no issues whatsoever.
So now everyone has less information so everyone can be happy now.

Good thing I still have my eyes who can see woke bullshit from 2 miles away and avoid like the plague they are, the devil's stamp just made things easier.

 

[Bernardougf]

Theres a stereotype about people who talk lots of smack because they want to OBFUSCATE the issue. Guess what it is. You fit the bill good ol chap. what is your end goal

If you like disingenuous conversation with lots of strawmaning and nonsense points ... you are in for a treat in arguing with the biggest sjw of this forum.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Thats nice, you can ignore that too bud.

What ever you wish to define that as, you can ignore it and move on, you can't stop anyone from doing shit and why anyone would spend this much energy in hopes of stopping free will is beyond me.


I know right and its not necessary for you to care about it either lol, you are free to ignore it just as much as they are free to add in as much shit as you think isn't "necessary". Free Will is a wild concept you might want to get over bud.


So, don't worry, you can cry about this as much as you want, I got Metaphor ReFantazio to get back to lol

(you know, for those of us that just fucking play games instead of trying to stop them from existing cause "meh feeeelings womp womp") lol

Keep fighting the good fight, maybe 1 day you can get all humans to "get rid of this nonsense" with some mind control device lol

Good luck Officer Omni

Are you mentally okay?

 

[lmimmfn]

Thats nice, you can ignore that too bud.

What ever you wish to define that as, you can ignore it and move on, you can't stop anyone from doing shit and why anyone would spend this much energy in hopes of stopping free will is beyond me.


I know right and its not necessary for you to care about it either lol, you are free to ignore it just as much as they are free to add in as much shit as you think isn't "necessary". Free Will is a wild concept you might want to get over bud.


So, don't worry, you can cry about this as much as you want, I got Metaphor ReFantazio to get back to lol

(you know, for those of us that just fucking play games instead of trying to stop them from existing cause "meh feeeelings womp womp") lol

Keep fighting the good fight, maybe 1 day you can get all humans to "get rid of this nonsense" with some mind control device lol

Good luck Officer Omni

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Are you mentally okay?

Was he ever...?

 

[PleazureDome]

Thats nice, you can ignore that too bud.

What ever you wish to define that as, you can ignore it and move on, you can't stop anyone from doing shit and why anyone would spend this much energy in hopes of stopping free will is beyond me.


I know right and its not necessary for you to care about it either lol, you are free to ignore it just as much as they are free to add in as much shit as you think isn't "necessary". Free Will is a wild concept you might want to get over bud.


So, don't worry, you can cry about this as much as you want, I got Metaphor ReFantazio to get back to lol

(you know, for those of us that just fucking play games instead of trying to stop them from existing cause "meh feeeelings womp womp") lol

Keep fighting the good fight, maybe 1 day you can get all humans to "get rid of this nonsense" with some mind control device lol

 

[Shakka43]

Thats nice, you can ignore that too bud.

What ever you wish to define that as, you can ignore it and move on, you can't stop anyone from doing shit and why anyone would spend this much energy in hopes of stopping free will is beyond me.


I know right and its not necessary for you to care about it either lol, you are free to ignore it just as much as they are free to add in as much shit as you think isn't "necessary". Free Will is a wild concept you might want to get over bud.


So, don't worry, you can cry about this as much as you want, I got Metaphor ReFantazio to get back to lol

(you know, for those of us that just fucking play games instead of trying to stop them from existing cause "meh feeeelings womp womp") lol

Keep fighting the good fight, maybe 1 day you can get all humans to "get rid of this nonsense" with some mind control device lol

Good luck Officer Omni

Holy cringe Batman.

 

[Gonzito]

Thats nice, you can ignore that too bud.

What ever you wish to define that as, you can ignore it and move on, you can't stop anyone from doing shit and why anyone would spend this much energy in hopes of stopping free will is beyond me.


I know right and its not necessary for you to care about it either lol, you are free to ignore it just as much as they are free to add in as much shit as you think isn't "necessary". Free Will is a wild concept you might want to get over bud.


So, don't worry, you can cry about this as much as you want, I got Metaphor ReFantazio to get back to lol

(you know, for those of us that just fucking play games instead of trying to stop them from existing cause "meh feeeelings womp womp") lol

Keep fighting the good fight, maybe 1 day you can get all humans to "get rid of this nonsense" with some mind control device lol

Good luck Officer Omni

Remove that avatar, you dont deserve to have Big Boss after writing that stupidity

 

[dano1]

Good thing I still have my eyes who can see woke bullshit from 2 miles away and avoid like the plague they are, the devil's stamp just made things easier.

I’ll trust my software makers to make the right decisions. And when they don’t ( in game) then I will vote with my wallet. To many people read some online crap and make dumb decisions.

 

[Kacho]

Thats nice, you can ignore that too bud.

You should take your own advice and ignore peoples criticisms if it upsets you so much, which it clearly does. Especially if you have more important things to do with your time, like play anime games.

 

[Sephimoth]

There will be other signs of who's hiring them going forward...

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Good thing I still have my eyes who can see woke bullshit from 2 miles away and avoid like the plague they are, the devil's stamp just made things easier.

Yup. Me too.

You can see just by trailers and some info pages and employees promoting the game if it’ll be political.

The problem is if someone hates this stuff, games which are full of it and can’t avoid it are in big trouble as people will avoid.

Some games like COD will have their share of DEI stuff like like free pride month skins pack. Not a big deal because they don’t jam it in your face, it’s optional and the nature of the game is to kill people asap. You’d never notice or focus on it since the gameplay is killing, doing MP objectives, and all gamers care about and see between matches are the lobby and messing with your load outs.

Other games jam it in your face where you can’t avoid the message. Also those companies have weird employees on Twitter promoting and battling gamers. On the other hand, I’ve never seen an activision employee battle gamers on political stuff in COD. Even if a gamer went on Twitter saying they hate the free pride pack, I don’t think any activision person would care.

 

[EDMIX]

lol struck a nerve with some of you huh? The deepest of lolz

The only questions I care about is regarding the actual gameplay, sorry man, I don't play games or avoid games based on the beliefs of those who created it. With titles having over 2000 to 3000 plus hands working on it, you'd have to vet every person to what, make sure they all believe what you believe? That shit sounds exhausting lol

So basically you'd have to avoid all games, Sony, MS and Nintendo carry those beliefs so you'd have to avoid consoles and PC, go over to Mac gaming, well....Apple supports those ideas 100% lol Never mind sweet baby bud, you'd have to avoid all major tech in general.

Fight the good fight. You so worries about supporting some company that works with sweet baby or woke or something, that would mean you'd have to avoid even the internet lol So I don't fucking buy any of you care THAT MUCH, you only care when its convenient to complain about something, so...

"ask questions, still consumes products, then complains about next products" lol

So all the console makers and Apple support those ideas in some form, most of you shouldn't be gaming if you care that much about this =)

 

[tkscz]

as if we need a list when they leave their hallmark in every game they work on:

Now maybe it's because I like fat women who have soft round chins and I don't know any better but do thinner women usually have army grade squared jaws?

 

[lmimmfn]

lol struck a nerve with some of you huh? The deepest of lolz

The only questions I care about is regarding the actual gameplay, sorry man, I don't play games or avoid games based on the beliefs of those who created it. With titles having over 2000 to 3000 plus hands working on it, you'd have to vet every person to what, make sure they all believe what you believe? That shit sounds exhausting lol

So basically you'd have to avoid all games, Sony, MS and Nintendo carry those beliefs so you'd have to avoid consoles and PC, go over to Mac gaming, well....Apple supports those ideas 100% lol Never mind sweet baby bud, you'd have to avoid all major tech in general.

Fight the good fight. You so worries about supporting some company that works with sweet baby or woke or something, that would mean you'd have to avoid even the internet lol So I don't fucking buy any of you care THAT MUCH, you only care when its convenient to complain about something, so...

"ask questions, still consumes products, then complains about next products" lol

So all the console makers and Apple support those ideas in some form, most of you shouldn't be gaming if you care that much about this =)

Not really.
A game is good if a game is good, i.e. playability and story is good, it can have trans, bi, gay, black, Indian, whatever.

However what is total shit is putting political messaging at the forefront of games, pandering to politics we don't give a shit about resulting in shit games, also usually with a shit story.

It's no different than sticking a Christian message in a game, noones interest in that shit other than hardcore Christians who buy the game for that reason.

I'm not a hardcore woke activist so I don't want that shit in my games.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

lol struck a nerve with some of you huh? The deepest of lolz

The only questions I care about is regarding the actual gameplay, sorry man, I don't play games or avoid games based on the beliefs of those who created it. With titles having over 2000 to 3000 plus hands working on it, you'd have to vet every person to what, make sure they all believe what you believe? That shit sounds exhausting lol

So basically you'd have to avoid all games, Sony, MS and Nintendo carry those beliefs so you'd have to avoid consoles and PC, go over to Mac gaming, well....Apple supports those ideas 100% lol Never mind sweet baby bud, you'd have to avoid all major tech in general.

Fight the good fight. You so worries about supporting some company that works with sweet baby or woke or something, that would mean you'd have to avoid even the internet lol So I don't fucking buy any of you care THAT MUCH, you only care when its convenient to complain about something, so...

"ask questions, still consumes products, then complains about next products" lol

So all the console makers and Apple support those ideas in some form, most of you shouldn't be gaming if you care that much about this =)

You are completely wrong, I am sorry.

I understand you are trying to say "it is fine to be DEI if the game is good".

But if DEI makes good games we wouldn't be having this discussion. We have enough examples from multiple AAA titles to show that DEI devs are incompetent.

I personally don't oppose DEI. I just oppose shit games.

There is enough examples now to tell that DEI leads to shit games. So there is no longer any need to give DEI games any benefit of the doubt. Signs of DEI is simply a shorthand to avoid a title to save you money.

 

[Tams]

Unfortunately, this means that while they have been booted from plain sight, they will now be subtly in the background.

They still need to be rooted out like the weeds that they are. We've only lopped the top off so far.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Unfortunately, this means that while they have been booted from plain sight, they will now be subtly in the background.

They still need to be rooted out like the weeds that they are. We've only lopped the top off so far.

Good news is that Virtual Signaling requires signals. They can't hide, they had to shout with microphones at all times. So there will be nothing subtle about their failed attempts to hide.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

lol struck a nerve with some of you huh? The deepest of lolz

All that effort into a disproportionately verbose (and meaningless) wall of text, but somehow everyone else's nerves were struck...

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

so the guy that started all this mess was fired

we can't hold all these rare victories

 

[The Saint]

as if we need a list when they leave their hallmark in every game they work on:

What the $^#* is that... thing... in the bottom left image??? No, seriously. Even if the other characters in the image set do not look that great (not ugly, but not really good either) at least they all still resemble a human being.