Not the same, different architecture, additional FP32 on Ampere/Ada are actually usable.
all old and new ps5 games at 4k 60fps easy buy for me.
Yeah they are running into tdp limits here. Ps5 already hits 230 watts at times. Ps4 would top out at 150 watts. So it’s not like they are not trying, but consoles have to be small, they need to have cpus and gpus packed together dang they need to fit in a tidy console tdp budget.
4k 60 lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which part is incorrect?
Dont do this. Read up on AMDs new tflops terminology and look up rdna 3 benchmarks. Or just listen to people in the know.
Which part are you doubting?
33 tflops. Read up on this.
All of it.
It is basically just a classic AMD knowing that it cannot compete with Nvidia right now, trying to use PR. Just like those CDN TFlops were not RDNA TFlops or something. Now it is another one, while Nvidia will just release some new card next year that will obliterate AMD and increase market share even moreI remember those memes from i3-i7 era where Intel was getting better performance while AMD was trying to throw more cores just to sell the idea that more cores > better CPU. And AMD doing that right now with GPU.
Is there really any doubt they will be releasing an upgraded PS5 that can push 4K at better frames and increase resolution for games that have 120 options?
So you’re doubting it can do 8K or you think 17TF is enough for it?
It was not confirmed, but none of the rumours nor the data in the leaked specs makes me think that Sony invested money to boost performance by switching the custom Zen 2 cores AMD and Sony delivered to similarly custom Zen 4c cores.Was Zen2 confirmed?
Zen2 was rumored for awhile now.
I don't see it mentioned here.
And despite how much I hate his takes, Jason Schreier is really solid too.
Dude, why do you keep going on about 8K? It's an output resolution. It means nothing in a vacuum.
DLSS Ultra Performence at 8K upscales from 1440p
You're right. It's 4K that upscales from 720p.
With PS5, Sony invested in the IO Complex and Tempest Engine, but leaks never mention them.
Straight from NVIDIA:Dude, why do you keep going on about 8K? It's an output resolution. It means nothing in a vacuum.
Know what that is? This is the spec sheet for the RTX 3050. It can do 8K. Wow! Surely, it's an awesome super-duper card, much better than the 2080 Ti which tops out at 5K...except it's not. NVIDIA advertised 8K back with the 3090 and got laughed at. RTX cards can all do 8K...with DLSS Ultra Performance that upscales from 720p.
8K without knowing the game is completely meaningless. What we do know for a fact is that the PS5 Pro will NOT be a serious 8K gaming machine. Nothing on the market is. Not the 4090, not the 7900 XTX. Nothing. You don't "need" 40 TFLOPs for 8K. You only need a video card that supports the resolution and every card since 2020 is able to.
the RDNA3 dual issuing only works on RDNA3 and up: it uses new instructions which are not available on RDNA2 / PS5.
And where do you think the 3050's spec sheet comes from? It's the NVIDIA website. It also outputs to 8K.
Outputting 8K and playing games in 8K are two very different things.
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All you need to play games at 8K is the ability to output them at that resolution. What is the PS5 Pro playing at 8K? The Touryst? Mantis Burning Racing? Just slapping 8K gaming on the box is meaningless. I thought you’d have caught on after the PS5 slapped 8K on the box and still doesn’t have a game that runs in 8K.
It the same thing you posted, it send "play" or am I misunderstanding something.
Yep, that is correct.
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was saying earlier GPU’s could, but I think he was just confused about outputting 8K, and not playing in 8K.I will grant the Tempest Engine (although given the work they did on PSVR, that PSVR2 was coming, and the fact they would have wanted to avoid a breakout box while they using 3D surround sound processing further, I think it was likely they would have pushed for stronger dedicated Audio HW), but I/O wise their strong statements on the faster than PC (at the time of the Wired interview) SSD lead naturally to that unless you think Cerny designs very unbalanced systems… the CPU cost without dedicated HW would be enormous otherwise.
33.5 is a theoretical value that will most likely never be reached; but from here to calling it a 17 TF machine is really a super pessimistic extension, to put it mildly. How software will perform in the beginning / many games, do not represent the real potential/specs of a piece of hardware. So, I just marginally agree with you.
No, I wasn’t confused. The moment a card can output at a resolution, it can also play at that resolution. Get an 8K display, get a rig with an RTX 3050 and in the game menu, 8K will be available as a resolution. You can play the game. At probably 10fps but you can still play. Hence why I said 8K without context is meaningless.Yep, that is correct.
Well, NVIDIA said it was the world’s first for playing games.
Didn’t the 3090 come out before the 3050 though.
We can't compared consoles to PCs in in terms of theoretical fill rates because there isn't a closed system with Nvidia GPUs in the with the same or lower fill rates. The technical specs of the PS5 pro is faster than the RTX 4070,I made the comparison at 2.8 GHz for the 4070 as it hovers between the 2.7-2.8 GHz.
NVIDIA says a lot of things.
They can play at 8K. Whether the performance is acceptable for you or not is a different story. Plus, the 8K claims are pure marketing bullshit. They said that because the $1500 RTX 3090 was only about 10-15% faster than the $700 RTX 3080. So what can we tell people to sucker them into spending over twice the money for marginal performance improvements? 8K!
Yes, so from the DF video, we gather the PS5's GPU performs quite close to its PC counterpart in most scenarios. Why would it suddenly change with the PS5 Pro?
This is true, good point.
You don't need better machine, you need better developers for that.
So far, the PS5 Pro is taking a different approach then the PS4 Pro.
