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New ‘Dragon Age: The Veilguard’ Characters Rejected By Players, Reveal Trailer Mass Downvoted
March Climber
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I’m genuinely surprised that a series where people mainly claim they’ve only really liked the first entry, managed to survive multiple generations to a 4th installment, and it isn’t a sports game.
chikydee
Member
that's how good Origins was, and how much faith people (still) have in Bioware
Varteras
Member
Well, a lot of people are surprised that Bioware hasn't been closed yet.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Watch the video again: the skills are not on cooldown like in mass effect where you had 9 skills in total (3 per character) that you juggled.
In this game skills are treated as powerups, you must do x normal attacks to generate a skill charge and you can only bank 2 charges - screenshots from later in the game still show only 2 slots for skill charges.
Majormaxxx
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Dragon Age Failguard
Your welcome
Your welcome
Dazraell
Member
Well, taking the awful music choice aside, that trailer was quite indicative of the game's darker tone and its story beats. You can hear Grey Wardens oath, see the main enemies (darkspawn), the whole ritual where Wardens go to Deep Roads to spend their remaining life fighting with darkspawn, etc. This ultimately sets up the premise of the faction you're going to be a part of in this game
Veilguard's trailer doesn't gave me similar impression. It doesn't really say anything about the main mission, what titular Veilguard is about and why they even need to form up this goofy fantasy Suicide Squad. Instead you are shoved with a list of characters you're supposed to care about, but lack any context why you even need them. Not to mention that trailer framed this in a way implying people who are looking for others might be so clueless they don't even know who should lead them lol
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YuLY
Gold Member
You're optimistic the studio will survive Veilguard i see
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
It is pretty clear that the developers (and writers) were more interested in sexual relationship with an elderly man than writing a decent story and gameplay.
I don't remember who said but the gameplay looks like scrapped from MMO and the skill circle looks like a vomit on the screen.
I don't remember who said but the gameplay looks like scrapped from MMO and the skill circle looks like a vomit on the screen.
PeteBull
Member
Only crowd who will play it is paid streamers/journos but thats coz they are literally paid to do so/its their job, u will see use scores and steam reviews bomb hard, same with sales.
Edit: And i say it as a guy who bought DA:I at launch and loved it, played well over 100h in it.
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digdug2
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My welcome what?
thief183
Member
Well inquisition alr4wdy looked and played like an MMORPG, so they scrapped the RPG side and made an MMO in single player.... and then mixed it with Fortnite
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Schmendrick
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I just don`t understand who this product is made for.
The design is definitely for the Fortnite/Disney-Pixar/Marvel crowd as it`s as generic, un-offensive and "inclusive" as it can possibly be. But those poeple do not know what Dragon Age is and are probably not interested in that type of game in general.
And for us old guys who can compare to prior entries this thing is just an abomination....
The design is definitely for the Fortnite/Disney-Pixar/Marvel crowd as it`s as generic, un-offensive and "inclusive" as it can possibly be. But those poeple do not know what Dragon Age is and are probably not interested in that type of game in general.
And for us old guys who can compare to prior entries this thing is just an abomination....
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PeteBull
Member
Its for the transformers/alphabet crowd , EA already knows it will bomb hard but thats all according to their plans, gives them excuse to close down bioware, which obviously they will, we already experienced how woke shitfest games are doing sales wise- inflated review score coz brownie points, terrible user score/steam reviews, and close to 0 sales, then standard official comment "sales below expectations" from publisher, and few months after studio clousure "we gotta run business here"
My condolences for bottom lvl devs who had/have to watch it all happening i hope u guys land another and better paying job, big fk u to publisher and ppl at the head of the dev studio for letting it happen tho.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
It is basically like Star Wars and other established IPs - it is made for the people who the most loud online, but they do not represent the normal folks that go and play games / watch movies.
Let's see how Dragon Age performs. It will be compared to BG3 and it won't go nice for DA.
After that trailer I've re-watched that 4min cinematic trailer of Dragon Age Origins and I've got to be honest, apart from the colour palette is was very very similar. Over the top action with unstoppable and invincible heroes and few clever lines. Marvel really comes to mind.
Good thing is that the game was nothing like that trailer back then.
I don't know if there's hope yet for the franchise. I haven't watched any gameplay yet. However, with so many great and acclaimed games out there I don't know why those big companies won't take these as a template and prefer to make anything but what their audience want.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Wait is this what happened to DragonAge DreadWolf?
I thought this was just another offshoot title....its actually DragonAge 4?
I thought this was just another offshoot title....its actually DragonAge 4?
Moridianae
Member
They choose to ignore anything and everything related to negativity surrounding their choice of what they wanted to make. Similar to how Concord is doing the same thing, I think I read recently on here.
Fans don't matter and they'll go
when the game flops like SSKTJL.Then, they'll immediately get angry as we've seen in the movie and game industry and blame the fans, labeling them any number of things.
Because none of *their* decisions are ever wrong, your opinions of them are.
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DelireMan7
Member
If I got it right Dreadwolf is now Veilguard.Wait is this what happened to DragonAge DreadWolf?
I thought this was just another offshoot title....its actually DragonAge 4?
So yes Dragon Age Dreadwolf = Dragon Age Veilguard = Dragon Age 4
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Fuck me.
lmimmfn
Member
DA: O is among my top 20 games ever. DA2 was a disaster but we knew that from before release(short development time etc.). DA: I was a bit of an unknown before and at launch but it was a shockingly awful game, hated...no detested it(even though I completed it).
This looks like an absolutely fantastic follow up to DA: I. It embodies everything that lovers of DA: O hate, good luck with your game EA/Bioware!!!!!!
This looks like an absolutely fantastic follow up to DA: I. It embodies everything that lovers of DA: O hate, good luck with your game EA/Bioware!!!!!!
Raven117
Member
The fact BG3 did so well is horrible news for Dragon Age. BG3 showed that more than just a niche subset of gamers like this big sprawling complex serious RPGs. This is what they expect. The comparison will come… and it’s going to be brutal.
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It doesn't have a dark aesthetic at all, it's just at night.
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mayham2199
Member
I agree I think it could be really bad for DA. I've enjoyed all the games to varying degrees. DA2 was really bad but the story was actually very good but I've always enjoyed the DA world and the conflict between Mages and Templars. I just think it's a fascinating concept and no other world really had anything like it in gaming. The mages are essentially slaves and treated like second class citizens and at the same time you can kind of understand why.
As long as the story is good I'll be satisfied I think. I'm not judging the gameplay to harshly because I only saw rogue and I had no plan so of picking Rogue. Even in DAI the gameplay varied based on what class you picked. I had to restart because I was finding mage to be way to boring. Reaver though was amazing fun and made the game a lot more fun.
Red5
Member
Does it look blocky and cartoony like Fortnite? Does it have a bright and upbeat color palette? Is the world architecture from a children's fantasy book with Cinderella like towers?
Cyberpunkd
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Raven117
Member
This is basically my take as well. If it’s actually a good story… I can forgive almost anything.
Dr. Claus
Banned
I literally stated I enjoyed both 1 and 2, just that I recognize the issues of 2. 3 is the only one I don't like... until this was revealed.
JerryinSoCal
Member
Calling this "woke" is a bit much lol, RPG's have had same sex romance options for years, hell even Fable let you do it back on the 360, it doesn't mean you have to it just means you have the option.
As far as the cast of characters? we'll see how those play out, we've only seen 3 of the potential companions so far in actual gameplay.
As far as the cast of characters? we'll see how those play out, we've only seen 3 of the potential companions so far in actual gameplay.
MALpractice311
Member
Much like Concord, it's too far gone to really do anything about the criticism even if they wanted to listen, which I'm sure they don't.
ZehDon
Member
... in the screenshots they've put out, it 100% has all of these things?
Fbh
Member
The reveal trailer was awful.
The gameplay reveal wasn't quite as bad, but it looked like any number of recent 6-7/10 RPGs (Atlas Fallen and stuff like thst) except with higher production values.
The story could be the saving grace, but given the people in charge of this I'd be extremely surprised if it's anything but awful
It looks and sounds like it's an RPG made for zoomers. But they still want to use the Dragon Age name for the added notoriety, and the fact they can probably still sell at least a few hundred thousand copies on name recognition alone.
What's funny is that back when this was pitched it probably seemed like a safe move. In the meantime the 2 biggest RPGs have been a challenging dark fantasy open world (Elden Ring) and a more classic CRPG with deep customisation and turn based combat (Baldur's Gate 3)
The gameplay reveal wasn't quite as bad, but it looked like any number of recent 6-7/10 RPGs (Atlas Fallen and stuff like thst) except with higher production values.
The story could be the saving grace, but given the people in charge of this I'd be extremely surprised if it's anything but awful
It looks and sounds like it's an RPG made for zoomers. But they still want to use the Dragon Age name for the added notoriety, and the fact they can probably still sell at least a few hundred thousand copies on name recognition alone.
What's funny is that back when this was pitched it probably seemed like a safe move. In the meantime the 2 biggest RPGs have been a challenging dark fantasy open world (Elden Ring) and a more classic CRPG with deep customisation and turn based combat (Baldur's Gate 3)
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GymWolf
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Offer me a drink first.
Rickyiez
Member
But then again usually CGI trailer is used to hype up the game and it should be the one that looks better than the game they advertise , not another way round . For instance , Blizzard's CGI trailer , it makes people wow
You shouldn't release a CGI trailer that make goes like WTF is this shit , it kills the hype straight off and people wouldn't bother to look into additional reveals for the said game . Or maybe this is the kind of marketing trick where it builds negativity and gets people talking about it to generate huge interest , so what do I know
YOU PC BRO?!
Gold Member
I can’t speak for anyone else but the tone of the game has changed significantly from the original. It stands to reason that this campy, gay new direction isn’t what fans were expecting. The game also no longer respects its own lore and appears to have been beaten within an inch of its life with the DEI stick. It appears that the devs have made the very same mistake others have made in recent times…. they have made a game for an audience that doesn’t exist. Made the game for the audience they would like to have rather than the one they actually have. The problem is that the demographics they are expecting to show up aren’t actually interested and won’t buy the game. Also, changes made to the IP in order to appeal to those demographics end up alienating the fans you actually have… ultimately resulting in a flop. We have seen this time and time again. It’s amazing the chances people are willing to take when it isn’t their money on the line. O’well.
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Cyberpunkd
Member
TBH it's been 10 years since the last installment so it's not like they were rushing to make a new entry (which they would if the game got overwhelming positive reception). I think they just ran out of IPs and nobody nowadays wants to make a new one, so Dragon Age it is.
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kyussman
Member
Character designs are the least of this games problems.....the bloke in charge swans about all day pretending to be a woman,probably goes in womens toilets too and enjoys making them feel uncomfortable,creepy little fucker.....he can stick his game right up his arse,he'd probably love that!
StueyDuck
Member
I have no horse in the race, never was a big dragon age person.
Seems like another case of, the devs just turned up for a paycheck, made by committee nonsense AAA game, from what fans are voicing.
The industry really lacks passion. You can see a game made with passion vs one that isn't, BG3 vs this is a clear example
Seems like another case of, the devs just turned up for a paycheck, made by committee nonsense AAA game, from what fans are voicing.
The industry really lacks passion. You can see a game made with passion vs one that isn't, BG3 vs this is a clear example
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