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Media Create Sales: Week 33, 2012 (Aug 13 - Aug 19)

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BowieZ

Banned
apana said:
Yeah but similar consumers right? At least a year of separation would have made sense to me.
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NSMBU is there simply to be a compelling reason -- among many -- to push people to buy the new Wii U system.

I don't think they're particularly worried about the short term sales of the game itself.

It will sell amazingly over time as people adopt the platform.

In fact, ppl tiring temporarily of NSMB may help third party titles burgeon.
 
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Lord_Byron28

Member
apana said:
Yeah but similar consumers right? At least a year of separation would have made sense to me.
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I agree but they didn't properly plan things out. Some way or another they ended up with two NSMB games ready to go and a dearth of must have games to release for their respective systems. If the Wii U or 3DS had a game that would sell huge, system selling numbers(not NSMB #s obviously) releasing this holiday maybe they would've delayed one of the version but at this point it's all too little too late.
 
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onipex

Member
apana said:
Yeah but similar consumers right? At least a year of separation would have made sense to me.
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Sure, about as similar as the consumers that buy handheld and/or consoles hardware. My thinking is that since the hardware can sell side by side so can the software.
 
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GCX

Member
Lord_Byron28 said:
I agree but they didn't properly plan things out. Some way or another they ended up with two NSMB games ready to go and a dearth of must have games to release for their respective systems. If the Wii U or 3DS had a game that would sell huge, system selling numbers(not NSMB #s obviously) releasing this holiday maybe they would've delayed one of the version but at this point it's all too little too late.
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They planned it but only because they had to.

NSMBU was always planned as a WiiU launch title and the Mario team has been working on it since NSMBW. Last year the 3DS launch was a disaster so Nintendo had to make sure that they'd correct that mistake. They assembled a new team to make NSMB2 because it has that worldwide selling power and it's a great game to launch the 3DSXL with.

If 3DS had started selling great right off the gate NSMB2 wouldn't be out yet. It was green lighted at a time when Nintendo was in a panic mode and had to take action.
 
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AdventureRacing

Member
clemenx said:
I want to go forward in time until Pokemon 3DS launches. Want to see that bomb.
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IMO pokemon is a far better system seller than NSMB and it will have HUGE numbers when it releases on 3DS. I know NSMB and mario kart both outsold last gen but i still consider it the biggest system seller on handhelds.

The thing is it manages to do this with little changes at all. There are some massive things nintendo could add to pokemon to make it even bigger this gen imo. I'm interested to see how it turns out.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
21./28. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
22./22. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Definitive Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.11.23} (¥5.040)
23./26. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.07.19} (¥5.250)
24./19. [PSP] Super Dangan-Ronpa 2: Sayonara Zetsubou Gakuen # <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) {2012.07.26} (¥6.279)
25./30. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
26./13. [PS3] Sniper Elite V2 <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2012.08.09} (¥7.329)
27./32. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
28./00. [360] Monster Hunter Frontier Online: Anniversary 2012 Premium Package <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.08.15} (¥10.290)
29./31. [PSP] Toriko: Gourmet Survival! 2 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.230)
30./33. [3DS] Smile PreCure! Let's Go! Marchen World <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.08.02} (¥5.040)
31./29. [PSP] Warriors Orochi 3: Special <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.07.19} (¥6.090)
32./40. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.27} (¥5.800)
33./24. [PSP] Nayuta no Kiseki # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2012.07.26} (¥6.090)
34./41. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.01} (¥4.800)
35./25. [PS3] Tales of Vesperia (PlayStation 3 the Best) <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.08.02} (¥3.800)
36./35. [PS3] Assassin's Creed I + II Welcome Pack <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2012.07.19} (¥2.940)
37./37. [PSV] Persona 4: Golden <RPG> (Atlus) {2012.06.14} (¥7.329)
38./46. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2009.12.03} (¥5.800)
39./34. [3DS] Pocket Soccer League: Calciobit <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.07.12} (¥4.800)
40./50. [WII] Mario Kart Wii <RCE> (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} (¥5.800)
41./39. [WII] Wii Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2010.07.08} (¥4.800)
42./45. [WII] Just Dance Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.13} (¥5.800)
43./00. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends <ETC> (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} (¥4.800)
44./36. [3DS] Etrian Odyssey IV: Denshou no Kyojin <RPG> (Atlus) {2012.07.05} (¥6.279)
45./49. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800)
46./42. [PSP] Taiko no Tatsujin Portable DX <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.07.14} (¥5.229)
47./38. [PSP] All Kamen Rider: Rider Generation 2 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.08.02} (¥6.280)
48./44. [PS3] Tales of Graces f (PlayStation 3 the Best) <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.08.02} (¥3.800)
49./00. [PS3] Tokyo Jungle <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2012.06.07} (¥4.980)
50./00. [3DS] Akogare Girls Collection: Wan Nyan Doubutsu Byouin 2 <ADV> (Nippon Columbia) {2012.08.02} (¥5.040)

Top 50

3DS - 19
WII - 11
PSP - 9
PS3 - 7
NDS - 2
360 - 1
PSV - 1

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |    835.000 |    872.070 |    866.000 | 30.449.000 | 27.597.000 |
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
21./28. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
39./34. [3DS] Pocket Soccer League: Calciobit <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.07.12} (¥4.800)
43./00. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends <ETC> (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} (¥4.800)
44./36. [3DS] Etrian Odyssey IV: Denshou no Kyojin <RPG> (Atlus) {2012.07.05} (¥6.279)
45./49. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800)

YaY! Calciobit still charting, haha! probably it already outperformed the GBA, right?

Also, Nintendogs showing great legs. Way less important than the DS titles, but still strong in terms of general sales. Not bad for such a "seasonal" phenomena. Also if I think that it failed in sustaining 3ds sales through the girls demographic in the first period of lifecicle (and I think that this was its aim). But not surprising, due to the price point of the console at launch, imho.

I wonder how Etrian oddiessey is performing compared to the previous entries. I know that it started very well, now could be difficult to properly compare it, but it should still be doing ok, I guess.

Great to still see Fire Emblem in the chart. I think that up to now this and MarioLand are the greatest Nintendo successes on 3ds, software wise.

Instead Mario Kart imho would need a bundle within the end of the year, imho. both Land and MHTriG benefit from that aspect
 
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Road

Member
Dengeki Sales, Aug 13 - Aug 19, 2012 (Week 33)

01. (01) [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo) - 151,735 / 918,262 (+6%)
02. (02) [WII] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsusu no Shuzoku Online (Square Enix) - 46,941 / 473,875 (-35%)
03. (04) [NDS] Pokemon Black 2 (Pokemon Co.) - 34,495 / 1,410,626 (+9%)
04. (05) [NDS] Pokemon White 2 (Pokemon Co.) - 29,125 / 1,242,327 (+8%)
05. (07) [WII] Just Dance Wii 2 (Nintendo) - 24,417 / 136,468 (+4%)
06. (08) [3DS] Oni Training (Nintendo) - 21,818 / 107,609 (+16%)
07. (10) [3DS] Taiko Drum Master: Chibi Dragon to Fushigina Orb (Bandai Namco) - 20,856 / 167,618 (+25%)
08. (11) [WII] Kirby's Dream Collection Special Edition (Nintendo) - 14,922 / 177,142 (+3%)
09. (06) [3DS] Run For Money Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-tachi kara Nigekire! (Bandai Namco) - 14,518 / 88,853 (-43%)
10. (12) [3DS] Kobitodzukan: Kobito Kansatsu Set (Nippon Columbia) - 12,979 / 67,946 (+0%)
11. (03) [PSP] Kuroku no Basketball: Kiseki no Game (Bandai Namco) - 12,721 / 50,532 (-66%)
12. (16) [WII] Mario Party 9 (Nintendo) - 12,306 / ? (+27%)
13. (15) [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 11,794 / ? (+11%)
14. (09) [PS3] Persona 4 Arena (Atlus) - 11,311 / 175,227 (-34%)
15. (17) [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (Square Enix) - 10,529 / 872,530 (+9%)
16. (18) [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Baku Boost (Level 5) - 9,550 / 130,766 (+14%)
17. (13) [PSP] Digimon World Re:Digitize (Bandai Namco) - 9,503 / 145,785 (-24%)
18. (23) [NDS] All Kamen Rider: Rider Generation 2 (Bandai Namco) - 7,567 / ?
19. (26) [3DS] Mario Tennis Open (Nintendo) - 7,424 / ?
20. (27) [3DS] Monster Hunter Tri G (Capcom) - 7,394 / 1,540,000

00. (00) [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) - ? / 1,780,000
00. (00) [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo) - ? / 1,660,000


http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/525/525222/
http://megalodon.jp/2012-0824-2200-57/news.dengeki.com/soft/ranking/ranking.html

Dengeki Sales: Week 32, 2012 (Aug 06 - Aug 12)

Previous Dengeki Posts (Thanks Cap. Smoker!)
2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Sammy Samusu said:
37./37. [PSV] Persona 4: Golden <RPG> (Atlus) {2012.06.14} (¥7.329)

Beast.
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Yes, it's doing pretty good. It reminds me of Ocarina of Time 3D last year for some things: release date, ability to stay in charts, and maybe even for its ability to represent hardware's health.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
First day sellthrough

[PSP] Bakemonogatari Portable - 50%
[PS3] Rinne no Lagrange: Kamogawa Days - Game & Ova Hybrid Disc - 50-60%
[PSV] Tokushu Houdoubu - 40%
[PSP] Detective Opera: Milky Holmes 2 - 30-40%
[3DS] Boku wa Koukuu Kanseikan: Airport Hero 3D - Honolulu - very low
 
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BishopLamont

Banned
Anyone notice the lost sales from all consoles this year is the same as what the 3DS has gained this year on top of what it was already doing last year?

With the launch of the Wii U and the healthy performance of the 3DS, could this year top every year since 2008 in total software/hardware sales and help 2013 get back to at least 2008 level of hardware/software sales?

Aostia said:
I wonder how Etrian oddiessey is performing compared to the previous entries. I know that it started very well, now could be difficult to properly compare it, but it should still be doing ok, I guess.
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Its only like 30-40k short of being the best selling one, it'll get there eventually either over time or with the budget release.

Scratch that, guestimating its chart positions gives the games LTD sales of about 130k, it'll get there without even the budget release. It only needs another 15k to be the best selling one.

Rune factory 4 is the same too, best one being 145k, and its already at 135k, it only needs 2 or 3 weeks to be the best selling one.
 
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Nekki

Member
Aostia said:
YaY! Calciobit still charting, haha! probably it already outperformed the GBA, right?
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I think it did that before falling off the top 30 chart :D Happy it's doing well, tho i doubt it'll get to my 'desired' 80k.


Aostia said:
I wonder how Etrian oddiessey is performing compared to the previous entries. I know that it started very well, now could be difficult to properly compare it, but it should still be doing ok, I guess.
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I was wondering this too, we'll need time to see if it'll be the best selling entry or not, but i think it should be on track :D-

Aostia said:
Great to still see Fire Emblem in the chart. I think that up to now this and MarioLand are the greatest Nintendo successes on 3ds, software wise.
Instead Mario Kart imho would need a bundle within the end of the year, imho. both Land and MHTriG benefit from that aspect[
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Definitely. Both games more than deserve it, such stellar iterations. MK7 is still going strongly ahead of DS, but yes, a bundle would be wise sometime in the future.
 
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Nekki said:
I think it did that before falling off the top 30 chart :D Happy it's doing well, tho i doubt it'll get to my 'desired' 80k.




I was wondering this too, we'll need time to see if it'll be the best selling entry or not, but i think it should be on track :D-



Definitely. Both games more than deserve it, such stellar iterations. MK7 is still going strongly ahead of DS, but yes, a bundle would be wise sometime in the future.
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Thanks for sharing, and:

BishopLamont said:
Its only like 30-40k short of being the best selling one, it'll get there eventually either over time or with the budget release.
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thanks to you too!
 
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Busaiku

Member
test_account said:
Is it like normal fighting game, that each character has a intro and an ending, telling something story related to the character?
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No, there's a ton of text, visual novel style.
The story mode is like 90% text, 10% fighting.
Arcade mode is a summary version of story mode.
 
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hiska-kun

Member
Chris1964 said:
Media Create had it at 130k 2 weeks ago. It's not very far from 140k.
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Missed that. Did Media create share some numbers? I thought that the last MC number known was 117.362 (week 29).
But guessing the position in the top 50, it seems that the game has sold at least 130k, as you said.
 
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Sammy Samusu

Member
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/08/nintendo-japanese-market/

Roughly 70 percent of all videogame software and hardware sales in Japan are for Nintendo platforms at present, according to the latest sales data from Japanese industry analysts Media Create.

The company said that this is the largest share of the market Nintendo has held in the past five years.

In noting Nintendo’s current market leadership, Media Create observed that overall video game sales during the month of August were down. Media Create compared sales over the cultural holiday of Obon (which last about two weeks) to years past and found that 2012 sales were 90.32% of 2011 Obon sales and 93.59% of sales over the same holiday in 2010.

Nintendo’s hardware dominance is a fact of life in Japan, as the Nintendo 3DS has consistently sat atop the hardware sales charts for the past year. The recent release of the 3DS XL model has only strengthened Nintendo’s lead. Add in the lingering Wii and DSi sales and Nintendo products account for about 75 percent of all hardware sales in the country. Sony represents a little over 23 percent.

On the software side, the top ten games sold in Japan last week were all for Nintendo consoles. New Super Mario Bros. 2 was the best-selling of the bunch, nearing the one million mark.

More good news for Nintendo is the MMO Dragon Quest X Online, which in its third week remains a strong seller for the Wii even if it lags behind traditional Dragon Quest games in popularity. In total, 69.74% of all software sold last week was for a Nintendo console versus 29.18% for PlayStation consoles.

What of the Xbox 360? It retained its usual last-place position, selling fewer than 1,000 units last week. Its only game in the top 50 was Monster Hunter Frontier Online, in 28th place.
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
gamergirly said:
And Wii U ain't even born yet mwuhahaha
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yes, but considering that the articole and the % are related to the sw, I don't know if the Wii U release will help in keeping such high numbers.
I mean: it will help Nintendo numbers hw-wise, due to the poor wii performance of the last month, but sw-wise to me it seems that wii is still healhty in Japan, when the right sw is released. and of course those sw figures rely on a big userbase.
 
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Lord_Byron28

Member
GCX said:
They planned it but only because they had to.

NSMBU was always planned as a WiiU launch title and the Mario team has been working on it since NSMBW. Last year the 3DS launch was a disaster so Nintendo had to make sure that they'd correct that mistake. They assembled a new team to make NSMB2 because it has that worldwide selling power and it's a great game to launch the 3DSXL with.

If 3DS had started selling great right off the gate NSMB2 wouldn't be out yet. It was green lighted at a time when Nintendo was in a panic mode and had to take action.
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I can't imagine how poor 3ds lineup would be looking in the west if nsmb2 hadn't released.

So does that mean NSMBU has been the longest NSMB in development. If so it definetly shows.

Aostia said:
yes, but considering that the articole and the % are related to the sw, I don't know if the Wii U release will help in keeping such high numbers.
I mean: it will help Nintendo numbers hw-wise, due to the poor wii performance of the last month, but sw-wise to me it seems that wii is still healhty in Japan, when the right sw is released. and of course those sw figures rely on a big userbase.
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NSMBU, Wii Fit and DQX should all do big software numbers for Wii U. We will have to wait and see until nintendo releases more details but so far it looks like it will be nintendo domination this holiday season.
 
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Gradivus

Member
A lot of the Nintendo related stuff got a small boost this week for the top 50. Glad to see FE is still holding on. If it has been selling around 2,000 to 3,000 a week since it got booted out of the top 20 it should be around the 440,000 to 450,000 now without the bundle pack. I can't wait to see how it does when the end of the year figures come out in Jan :p.
 
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Kouriozan

Member
Andriasang : Massive Lines For Pikachu 3DS LL
Hundreds lined up at Tokyo Pokemon Center today to pre-order the Pikachu Yellow 3DS LL system. Pre-orders for the special color variation kicked off today at Pokemon Centers throughout Japan.

Inside Games visited the Tokyo Pokemon Center at 10:00 and found a line of over 300 people. The line continued to grow, and in the end it took four hours for Pokemon Center staff to process everyone.
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For pre-order only, the Pikachu 3DS XL will be released 15/09 and not today, it's a typo.
 
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Road

Member
Prediction League September 2012

Predict how much these titles will sell in the period (from Aug 27 to Sep 30):

[3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (5 wk) -
[3DS] Senran Kagura Burst (5 wk) -
[PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f (5 wk) -
[PSP] Gundam AGE: CD / UA (5 wk) -
[PS3+360] Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (3 wk) -
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd (3 wk) -
[3DS] Medabots 7: Metabee / Rokusho (3 wk) -
[PSP] Final Fantasy III (2 wk) -
[PSP] SD Gundam G Generation Overworld (1 wk) -
[PS3+360] Dead or Alive 5 (1 wk) -
[PSV] Ys: Foliage Ocean in Celceta (1 wk) -


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Attention:
  • Remember for some games it's not only the 1st week.
  • Multiplatform games are the combined available sales of each platform.
Rules:
  • The official monthly sales will be the latest total available from the Famitsu Top 30.
  • The official monthly sales for multi-platform releases will be the combined available sales of each platform shown in the title entry.
  • The official monthly sales for games with multiple versions will be the combined available sales of each version shown in the title entry.
  • Any game missing in the Famitsu top 30 will be taken out of the predictions.
  • Any game missing in your prediction will be considered as if you had predicted zero for its sales.
Deadline: August, 29th 09:00 am (EDT) (when Famitsu and Media Create publish the weekly sales)
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
Prediction League September 2012

Predict how much these titles will sell in the period (from Aug 27 to Sep 30):

[3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (5 wk) - 92,000
[3DS] Senran Kagura Burst (5 wk) - 78,000
[PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f (5 wk) - 145,000
[PSP] Gundam AGE: CD / UA (5 wk) - 54,000
[PS3+360] Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (3 wk) - 125,000
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd (3 wk) - 62,000
[3DS] Medabots 7: Metabee / Rokusho (3 wk) - 55,000
[PSP] Final Fantasy III (2 wk) - 45,000
[PSP] SD Gundam G Generation Overworld (1 wk) - 138,000
[PS3+360] Dead or Alive 5 (1 wk) - 70,000
[PSV] Ys: Foliage Ocean in Celceta (1 wk) - 45,000
 
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electroplankton

Banned
Chris1964 said:
Media Create had it at 130k 2 weeks ago. It's not very far from 140k.
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Nice! Happy to see Etrian Odyssey fanbase really went to 3DS at least. Being Sega, I'd produce a new 7th Dragon, but Sega is dead so...

Prediction League September 2012

Predict how much these titles will sell in the period (from Aug 27 to Sep 30):

[3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (5 wk) - 115.000
[3DS] Senran Kagura Burst (5 wk) - 85.000
[PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f (5 wk) - 155.000
[PSP] Gundam AGE: CD / UA (5 wk) - 35.000
[PS3+360] Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (3 wk) - 125.000
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd (3 wk) - 65.000
[3DS] Medabots 7: Metabee / Rokusho (3 wk) - 45.000
[PSP] Final Fantasy III (2 wk) - 35.000
[PSP] SD Gundam G Generation Overworld (1 wk) - 145.000
[PS3+360] Dead or Alive 5 (1 wk) - 110.000
[PSV] Ys: Foliage Ocean in Celceta (1 wk) - 25.000
 
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Spiegel

Member
electroplankton said:
Nice! Happy to see Etrian Odyssey fanbase really went to 3DS at least. Being Sega, I'd produce a new 7th Dragon, but Sega is dead so...
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There was a 7th Dragon game released less than a year ago and it did better than the first game. I wouldn't be surprised if Sega makes a new one in the future and 3DS would be the obvious choice.
 
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electroplankton

Banned
Spiegel said:
There was a 7th Dragon game released less than a year ago and it did better than the first game. I wouldn't be surprised if Sega makes a new one in the future and 3DS would be the obvious choice.
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I know, it was on PSP and did surprisingly well! But we will hardly see something more from Sega than what they're developing now, imo.
 
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Gradivus

Member
Prediction League September 2012

Predict how much these titles will sell in the period (from Aug 27 to Sep 30):

[3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (5 wk) - 100,000
[3DS] Senran Kagura Burst (5 wk) - 82,000
[PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f (5 wk) - 150,000
[PSP] Gundam AGE: CD / UA (5 wk) - 50,000
[PS3+360] Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (3 wk) - 115,000
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd (3 wk) - 70,000
[3DS] Medabots 7: Metabee / Rokusho (3 wk) - 50,000
[PSP] Final Fantasy III (2 wk) - 50,000
[PSP] SD Gundam G Generation Overworld (1 wk) - 147,000
[PS3+360] Dead or Alive 5 (1 wk) - 80,000
[PSV] Ys: Foliage Ocean in Celceta (1 wk) - 50,000

I'm guess the Pikachu 3DS sales will not be added onto either m create or famitsu around the 15th of next month?
 
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marc^o^

Nintendo's Pro Bono PR Firm
Father_Brain said:
Yeah, it's reasonably safe to say at this point that 3DS will be the dominant platform in Japan for at least the next 3-4 years. Though I'm very curious to see how PS4 and Wii U's Japanese third-party support will play out.
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Wii U is such a sure bet. One year head start, Dragon Quest and a Karaoke service announced, follow up to the most selling console of previous gen, console tailor made for japan (NFC, mobility), etc. Only if the japanese console market falls apart will japanese studios not embrace Wii U. Won't happen, I believe Wii U will be even more successful than Wii in Japan.

You see, no next gen console will be able to have the perfect equation, which is most attractive graphics + most attractive controller + most attractive price.

I believe Wii U will have the most attractive controller + the most attractive price. Knowing Wii U graphics will be in HD this time, with a modern architecture, the graphics will be good enough and thus the less important key factor of success.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
marc^o^ said:
Wii U is such a sure bet. One year head start, Dragon Quest and a Karaoke service announced, follow up to the most selling console of previous gen, console tailor made for japan (NFC, mobility), etc. Only if the japanese console market falls apart will japanese studios not embrace Wii U. Won't happen, I believe Wii U will be even more successful than Wii in Japan.

You see, no next gen console will be able to have the perfect equation, which is most attractive graphics + most attractive controller + most attractive price.

I believe Wii U will have the most attractive controller + the most attractive price. Knowing Wii U graphics will be in HD this time, with a modern architecture, the graphics will be good enough and thus the less important key factor of success.
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I'm pretty optimistic about Wii U Japanese support, but I would not in any way call it a sure bet, especially considering we still do not know what 3rd party support will look like during the launch window.
 
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jeremy1456

Junior Member
I really think that having New Super Mario Bros. U at launch is the smartest thing Nintendo could have possibly done for their new system.

The franchise is as popular (if not moreso) than Monster Hunter but rather than being front loaded it's the most evergreen title in Nintendo's arsenal. That game alone, even if it sells significantly less than the Wii version, will push a few million consoles itself.

Any other game in the systems first year is just icing on the cake. I think the Wii U will reach new Wii levels but I can't see it getting much higher than that.

I think that with the ease of porting HD twin games the Wii U is in a significantly better position for lastability.
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

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I fail to understand how people can be so optimistic regarding Wii U, especially in terms of future third party support.
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
ElTopo said:
Successor of the most successful console this gen
+ head start of (maybe) a year
+ (presumably) modern technological features
+ industry is in deep shit
+ (presumably) more scalable engines
= Better third party support

I'm a pessimist, but even I have to admit there's plenty of good reasons why Wii U should get better 3rd party support.
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Add "Vita doing horribad, not like PSP during DS domination" and "most suitable home platform to Japnese tastes BY FAR" and we're on.
 
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jeremy1456

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Bruno MB said:
I fail to understand how people can be so optimistic regarding Wii U, especially in terms of future third party support.
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Because it is significantly easier to port games from the HD twins, and also to use engines and resources developed specifically for them.

This ensures support will at least be better than that of the Wii. Of course, we have to wait until Nintendo's September conference in order to gauge the systems support because Japanese developers were pretty shy at E3. I really think E3 was more tailored for Western developers, whereas the Japanese were waiting for an event closer to home to show their support.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Bruno MB said:
I fail to understand how people can be so optimistic regarding Wii U, especially in terms of future third party support.
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Well, I will give it a shot-

-The atmosphere right now/last year is much much different than it was in 2005 when 3rd parties were making their bets. No, the Wii was not an unqualified success and the PS3 did end up providing a relatively decent atmosphere for 3rd parties, but compared to 2005 with the Gamecube and PS2, it is day and night. Wii sold the most hardware and sold the most software, period, with no disclaimers. That might not mean everything, considering the 3rd party sales, but its a hell of a lot better position than coming off the GC.

-Nintendo simply has better and closer relationships with Japanese companies than the West, maybe with the exception of Ubisoft.

-Along the same lines, Nintendo has proven to 3rd parties it can succeed on its platforms- of course the caveat is this was largely with the DS/3DS, but still, its a start.

-By contrast to the West, the Japanese market has not been nearly as dependent on graphical and technological updates. I don't think PS4/720 super specs will be nearly as important to many Japanese pubs as they are to the West. Obviously this isn't true for every company and for every franchise.

-Last gen I firmly believe the PSP resurgence took away projects from Wii. Right now, I am very skeptical that Vita will be in any position to offer a serious challenge.

-A year head start. Nintendo could have a significant hardware and software advantage before PS4 even launches.
 
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