Sorry I am not educated, can anyone tell me what Gree is ?
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Media Create Sales: Week 17, 2012 (Apr 23 - Apr 29)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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Something in big trouble in the next future.
bigtroyjon
Member
I guess it would be the others category.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
As well as Wii U games (game?).
bigtroyjon
Member
Google for more recent news(like in the last 2 days)
bigtroyjon
Member
Sure
They count 58 portable games for last FY and 3DS+DS+PSP=53. Others is 5, so I would think that means that others equals Vita unless there is another portable out there.
For next FY there are 60 portable games and 3DS+DS+PSP=57. Others is 6 so that would make me think they have 3 WiiU games planned for next FY. That is backed up by them having 32 home console games counted with Wii+PS3+360=29.
So to sum up, in the next 12 months(counting April and May) they are going to have 3 Vita games and 3 WiiU games.
Probably more relevant here: http://www.level5.co.jp/news/20120508_02/popup.html
Level5 is re-releasing the PS3 Ninokuni at 3980yen on July 19. It now includes an easy mode, all the DLC so far (I believe they were all free anyway), and new Imagines from the GREE mobile game. Those who already own the game will get an online update as well.
Level5 is re-releasing the PS3 Ninokuni at 3980yen on July 19. It now includes an easy mode, all the DLC so far (I believe they were all free anyway), and new Imagines from the GREE mobile game. Those who already own the game will get an online update as well.
FINALFANTASYDOG
Member
THEY ARE IN TROUBLE WITH MAKING BILLONS OF DOLLARS har har har har...
They(Gree) reported their earnings. today.. more then 118.1 billion yen in sales, operating profits of 63.7 billon yen. close to 200% up for this financial reporting period.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-08/gree-third-quarter-profit-almost-triples-on-higher-sales.html
electroplankton
Banned
Is it only me or it is true that Square Enix effort is actually decreasing in terms of production values from the period 2004-2008? I mean, they're developing a lot of game for SNS, but nothing compared to Crisis Core, Kingdom Hears Coded, SaGa, Dragon Quest, Dirge of Cerberus, etc. they released on mobile phones some years ago.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The game is so nice it'll get to bomb twice.
FINALFANTASYDOG
Member
They've got a different person in charge of mobile gaming now, New Saga is getting fully announced next week. They have released a ton... but it's mainly all ports, tons of new stuff was annouced at TGS and we've heard very little about it since then
Yeah, most of their mobile stuff are coming from Ando and Tokita as producers these days. The director who did Before Crisis, Monotone, and Coded has moved into actual portable game development with Crisis Core, T3B, and Type-0.
electroplankton
Banned
Indeed, many people say S-E is supporting more and more mobile/SNS gaming but I think that even if this can be true in numerical terms, under the effort point of view, it seems a fallacy. A game like Before Crisis is surely more important (and with a higher budget) than, let's say, FF Brigade.
I'm not sure if that's really true. FF Brigade seems very popular, and it's probably very profitable. The most successful social mobile games these days have low production values anyway. Doesn't seem like a problem.
electroplankton
Banned
That's not the issue I'm trying to explain.
People seem concerned and worried about the shift of software house from console and handheld to mobile / SNS in Japan, give recent efforts by Namco Bandai, Konami, S-E itself. Imo, the problem is not that mobile / SNS are "stealing" games to traditional platforms, but simply they are growing as a cheap alternative, mainly for people who are not willing to buy a platform; people who play on PC have always existed (minesweeper and spider before, browser games and Farmwille now -just examples-), and not all of them consider video games as a hobby like people who purchase a dedicate device just to play video games.
So, it seems that S-E did not move resources from handheld devices to mobile / SNS gaming; it exploits the latter for cheap / experimental games, leaving bigger efforts on 3DS / Vita / PSP. This is proven by the fact that its effort on mobile gaming side was bigger some years ago, with titles like Before Crisis, Coded, SaGa, Dragon Quest Monsters / Battle Road, Front Mission 2089, Dirge of Cerberus, Final Fantasy IV-2, Itadaki Street... Imo, these games are not comparable with games like Chaos Ring or Song Summoner.
FINALFANTASYDOG
Member
I see what you're saying, those game seem far more creative: but take a look at what we've got in the past year:
http://dlgames.square-enix.com/jp/ipod/
FF3 , Chrono Trigger, Chaos Rings Omega, Chaos Rings 2, nanashino, itadaki street, FF tactics, IMAGINARY RANGE, Dragon Quest wanted for android, Lord of Vermilon, kakusansei, 3 other social games.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I believe they changed this within the past few years. Sometimes now they even add different versions, RE5's continued growth had to have included the Gold version for example.
Those MHP3rd figures most likely include The Best (but not PSN).
electroplankton
Banned
Yeah; still, it doesn't seem S-E has put so much effort in this line-up, given that some of them are portings, some adaptation of existing games, and some really low-budget games. The game with the highest budget there could be Chaos Ring, and having played the first one, I can say it didn't cost more than half of what Lufia costed on DS.
So when can we expect the next bigger MH-clone to show up on 3DS ? Tri G sold and i would expect some other publishers also try to capitalize on it or are there still doubts about 3DS being the right for these multiplayer action games ? PSO 2 is already hitting PC/Vita so there probably isnt another one being developed, Bamco has been quiet about God Eater 2 last time it was announced as a PSP-only title.
Is there anything else ? Sony will establish Soul Sacrifice on Vita and 3DS will probably get MH 4 in Capcoms next FY. The MH clone market right now looks smaller than expected.
Is there anything else ? Sony will establish Soul Sacrifice on Vita and 3DS will probably get MH 4 in Capcoms next FY. The MH clone market right now looks smaller than expected.
Nah, MHP3 was at 4.7M shipped as of June 2011. Those numbers don't include the budget release.
I don't think you've ever played those "older mobile games" you seem to think so highly of. Chaos Rings blows all of them away.
frankie_baby
Member
I'd expect a phantasy star portable sequel on 3ds probably next year sometime
I don't think you've ever played those "older mobile games" you seem to think so highly of. Chaos Rings blows all of them away.
Considering how bad Chaos Rings was, I really don't want to see what their previous mobile efforts were like.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
You're right! I dunno then, I figured they'd changed given continued slow catalogue sales of some games upwards (RE4 on Wii for example) but I guess not.
RE5 Gold/Alternative must be added though, otherwise it would surely be a million seller on it's own by now?
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Yep. New Alfasystem PStar focusing on local multi for 3DS makes too much sense, especially since Vita's getting PSO2 now.
I still think God Eater 2 will be PSP only. 3DS will get a GE2 expansion or GE3 later, probably after MH4 has really brought the Survival Hunting base fully over to 3DS.
Maybe or maybe not. The two new chapters were offered as DLC and the original release of RE5 Gold might have not sold 1M worldwide.
There's definitely something going on with GE2. It was announced in September and it hasn't had many updates.
now that we know more about Soul Sacrifice. I don't think it would turn into the "savior" for VITA in Japan everyone made it out to be after the announcement for the reveal. Regardless if it's a clone of MH game and it may very well end up being a great game, I don't think it would become a blockbuster or even over 500K in Japan based on the track record of Marvelous AQL and SCEJ.
Even if it was Demon Souls portable it wouldn't be a savior for the Vita.
That makes sense for Wii U, but is pretty poor for Vita.
Sammy Samusu
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AMAZON RANKS!
Time Travelers:
PSV - #20
PSP - #414
3DS - Not up for pre-order yet, lol.
Time Travelers:
PSV - #20
PSP - #414
3DS - Not up for pre-order yet, lol.
Metallix87
Member
While true, many posters would claim it to be the savior of the system.
frankie_baby
Member
Wow vita owners really are so desperate for games they'll buy anything released for it
MasterSheen
Member
Surprising, yet not at the same time.
electroplankton
Banned
I don't think you've ever played those "older mobile games" you seem to think so highly of. Chaos Rings blows all of them away.
Do you mean in terms of production values?
Well, I played RE:Coded and given it comes from the mobile environment, to me it looks a better effort than Chaos Rings. My point is that I don't see any shift of support from handheld to mobile / SNS given the fact that S-E has been working on the latter since early-2000, and even though in numerical terms we saw a growth, I cannot see an equal growth of support. Maybe I'm wrong, they're just my two cents on "omg, Japan software house on SNS /mobile!! Handheld market is shrinking" argument.
Yes, GE2 has completely disappeared. IMHO, it'll be a PSP 3DS multi release in the end...too much has passed from the last update. And it's Namco we're talking about here, not Square.
electroplankton
Banned
More likely PSP / PSV, right?
test_account
XP-39C²
Why isnt the 3DS version of Time Travelers up for preorder on Amazon?
600k+ copies of the Vita version preordered confirmed?
michaelius
Banned
Do we get new numbers today ?
test_account
XP-39C²
Yep, in about 4.5 hours from now.
Lord Ghirahim
Member
Time Travelers is anything now?
michaelius
Banned
The same thing I was thinking XD
test_account
XP-39C²
Golden Week ended on May 5th, so i dont think that it has affected Media Create's work process for this week's numbers.Cool i was thinking they might be delayed after Golden week
frankie_baby
Member
Vita owners are rushing out to pre order while it seems PSP owners can't be bothered
The 3DS version has no confirmed release date yet. It'll most likely be released on the same day, but since the releases of the PSP and Vita versions were confirmed by Sony instead of Level-5 there is no official release date for the 3DS game yet.
Cheap phrases like this need to stop. They are oversimplifying reality and don't add anything at all to the discussion.
The PSP is a system that's at the end of its life cycle and the people who pre-order a game such as Time Traveler's on Amazon at the first day of availability are most likely hardcore gamers -- in other words: the sort of people who very likely already own either a Vita or a 3DS. It's no surprise that those people pass on the "last gen" version and it's also not saying anything at all about the general sales potential of any of these versions.