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[Chris1964]

2009 Top 25 Used Game Sales (Famitsu/Enterbrain; 2008-12-28~2009-12-27):

Pokemon Gold / Silver is nowhere to be seen, even though it sold 3,5M last year.
Pokewalker worked.

I added the database to the OP.

 

[slaughterking]

Japan eliminated after participating in one (if not the) worst match of the WC. What does this mean for Inazuma? :lol

 

[duckroll]

During the match 500k pre-orders were canceled due to boredom backlash. After the Penalty Shootout, the remaining pre-orders were canceled. Looks like the game is going to do 12k first week now.

 

[Die Squirrel Die]

Japan eliminated after participating in one (if not the) worst match of the WC. What does this mean for Inazuma? :lol

The game will still sell 1million+ copies, but Hino won't be gifted with a thousand nubile, barely legal virgins.

 

[duckroll]

I'm not sure this matters, though, if one is interested in used sales to be able to determine how many "new sales didn't happen because of used copies". Like, if I buy DQ9 used, play it, trade it in, and you wander in off the street looking for DQ9 and choose a used copy over a new copy, it doesn't really matter if you choose my used copy, a used copy that's been through 10 trade cycles, or a used copy that was just traded for the first time ever; the net impact is the same.

Yes, that's a very good point. I was looking at it from the position of "how many percentage of the original owners who bought the game new eventually sold it back", because that's another interesting statistic in terms of seeing how well a game retains it's worth to a gamer.

 

[perfectchaos007]

|System | YTD |
| NDS | 1.059.758 |
| PSP | 1.051.855 |

| WII | 777.866 |
| PS3 | 716.670 |


Tight battle this year.

 

[cvxfreak]

The biggest loser will be Konami, not Level 5. :lol

 

[farnham]

Japan eliminated after participating in one (if not the) worst match of the WC. What does this mean for Inazuma? :lol

special training for the japanese team

 

[KTallguy]

Haha, poor Japan.
I think Inazuma 11 is boring, so the less copies it sells, the better I suppose.

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

2009 Top 25 Used Game Sales (Famitsu/Enterbrain; 2008-12-28~2009-12-27):

01 [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Sky - 378,000 / NEW
02 [PSP] Dissidia: Final Fantasy - 293,000 / 303,000
03 [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G - 267,000 / 650,000
04 [PS3] Yakuza 3 - 230,000 / NEW
05 [PS3] Resident Evil 5 - 229,000 / NEW
06 [NDS] Pokemon Diamond/Pearl - 222,000 / 1,086,000
07 [NDS] Pokemon Platinum - 189,000 / 274,000
08 [PS3] White Knight Chronicles - 186,000 / NEW
09 [NDS] Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride - 173,000 / 354,000
10 [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable - 166,000 / 322,000
11 [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 156,000 / 1,161,000
12 [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. - 154,000 / 917,000
13 [PSP] Dynasty Warriors: Strikeforce - 153,000 / NEW
14 [PS3] Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2 - 143,000 / 147,000
15 [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - 143,000 / 876,000
16 [PS3] Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - 141,000 / 274,000
17 [PS2] Super Robot Wars Z - 140,000 / 204,000
18 [PS2] Final Fantasy XII - 133,000 / 1,016,000
19 [NDS] Dragon Quest IV: The Chapters of the Chosen - 125,000 / 639,000
20 [NDS] Chrono Trigger - 123,000 / 176,000
21 [PS2] Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King - 123,000 / 1,769,000
22 [PSP] Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology 2 - 122,000 / NEW
23 [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker - 120,000 / 739,000
24 [PSP] Mobile Suit Gundam: Gundam Vs. Gundam - 120,000 / 178,000
25 [PS3] Grand Theft Auto IV - 117,000 / 143,000

Oh wow, I had no idea that they tracked used sales! Any chance that we could get more used numbers?

I find it interesting how there are no Wii or 360 games at all in the top 25.

 

[[Nintex]]

|System | YTD |
| NDS | 1.059.758 |
| PSP | 1.051.855 |

| WII | 777.866 |
| PS3 | 716.670 |


Tight battle this year.

Nintendo farts twice, starts marketing Mario Kart again and delays their games, Sony throws anything and everything they got on the market and still can't win. Imagine what would happen if Nintendo actually tried.

 

[Liabe Brave]

Nintendo farts twice, starts marketing Mario Kart again and delays their games, Sony throws anything and everything they got on the market and still can't win. Imagine what would happen if Nintendo actually tried.

I think the germane question is "Why aren't Nintendo trying?" They started Wii out brilliantly, especially compared to the fumble-thumbed idiocy of the PS3 business plan. That Sony is now making a run of it is quite surprising. Nintendo is going to outsell Sony handily by year's end, and will make much more money, but it's fascinating trying to figure out their plan (if any).

 

[GameplayWhore]

|System | YTD |
| NDS | 1.059.758 |
| PSP | 1.051.855 |

Tight battle this year.

PSP could win over NDS if it stays close then 3DS comes out before 2011, eating into NDS sales.

 

[Chris1964]

PSP could win over NDS if it stays close then 3DS comes out before 2011, eating into NDS sales.

If 3DS comes out this year in Japan it will eat sales from everything, not only DS.

I find it interesting how there are no Wii or 360 games at all in the top 25.

Interesting for Wii, not so interesting for 360. The top selling 2009 game for it is at 200k.

 

[schuelma]

Nintendo is going to outsell Sony handily by year's end, and will make much more money, but it's fascinating trying to figure out their plan (if any).

I honestly can't figure out if they have one.

 

[gerg]

I honestly can't figure out if they have one.

There's no point trying to cultivate support for the Wii at this point. They should focus their efforts on the Wii2 and the 3DS.

Interesting for Wii, not so interesting for 360. The top selling 2009 game for it is at 200k.

The Wii's lack of a presence doesn't surprise me too much, especially considering the types of games that sell best for the system.

 

[schuelma]

There's no point trying to cultivate support for the Wii at this point. They should focus their efforts on the Wii2 and the 3DS.


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The've been following that advice in Japan for a while I'd reckon, which is why I think a Wii successor is closer than we think.

 

[NeonZ]

There's no point trying to cultivate support for the Wii at this point. They should focus their efforts on the Wii2 and the 3DS.

I agree. I think Nintendo has pretty much given up on the Wii. Not given up as in "they're dropping all support", but they'll just continue making games to satisfy the current audience, having given up on expanding it more with the Wii itself.

The situation of 3rd parties on the system just isn't good, limiting its potential for growth... And, at this point, it's too late to try to bring those titles and audiences due to a consolidated image. Although their first party titles sell very well, it didn't really become a healthy environment for development and that ended up hurting the system's sales too, not only the 3rd party games.

 

[Chris1964]

Another update for Inazuma Eleven in case anyone else wants to predict.

Inazuma Eleven 2 comgnet final preorders were 196.
With 2 more days to come Inazuma Eleven 3 preorders are 361.

EDIT: With 1 more day to come Inazuma Eleven 3 preorders are 377.
More or less it will double Inazuma Eleven 2 preorders.

 

[[Nintex]]

The've been following that advice in Japan for a while I'd reckon, which is why I think a Wii successor is closer than we think.

I think it'll be the surprise announcement this year, like "WAT, Wii2 coming that soon?"
Especially since they didn't announce a new Wii Lite or even new colors or something at E3. They might just hold back a bit to give 3DS some room but they'll replace both DS and Wii before the end of 2011.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

I agree. I think Nintendo has pretty much given up on the Wii. Not given up as in "they're dropping all support", but they'll just continue making games to satisfy the current audience, having given up on expanding it more with the Wii itself.

The situation of 3rd parties on the system just isn't good, limiting its potential for growth... And, at this point, it's too late to try to bring those titles and audiences due to a consolidated image. Although their first party titles sell very well, it didn't really become a healthy environment for development and that ended up hurting the system's sales too, not only the 3rd party games.

I'm tempted to agree. It's been obvious for ages that Wii is well past the point when any turnaround was going to happen, and I think Nintendo would be well-advised to do exactly what they appear to be doing - keeping the console chugging along a little longer with outsourced titles (Mario Sports Mix), collaborations (Metroid: Other M) and one or two big in-house games (Skyward Sword) while quietly directing their energies toward development for their next home console and garnering support from third parties.

 

[doicare]

Nintendo farts twice, starts marketing Mario Kart again and delays their games, Sony throws anything and everything they got on the market and still can't win. Imagine what would happen if Nintendo actually tried.

Of course Nintendo having a significantly cheaper console and releasing nearly all of their biggest franchises while Sony hasn't yet, might have something to do with it.

Whoever 'wins' this year in console sales, the loser won't be too far behind.

 

[gerg]

I think it'll be the surprise announcement this year, like "WAT, Wii2 coming that soon?"
Especially since they didn't announce a new Wii Lite or even new colors or something at E3. They might just hold back a bit to give 3DS some room but they'll replace both DS and Wii before the end of 2011.

As much as I really want to agree with this, I don't actually think that releasing a console that early particularly benefits Nintendo, especially if Microsoft and Sony just live out an extra year or so with the PS3 and 360 before they release their new consoles; a best-case scenario would be when Microsoft and Sony feel the need to release their own upgrades in response to the Wii2, and a mid-2012 release (at the earliest) would be much better suited for that, imo.

 

[Cipherr]

PSP could win over NDS if it stays close then 3DS comes out before 2011, eating into NDS sales.

If 3DS comes out this year in Japan it will eat sales from everything, not only DS.

If the 3DS comes out this year in Japan, itll probably pass them both in YTD before the turn of the year. :lol

 

[perfectchaos007]

If the 3DS comes out this year in Japan, itll probably pass them both in YTD before the turn of the year. :lol

nah, it will only sell as much as Nintendo puts out. I don't know if Nintendo would be able to manufacture 2 million of those things at the end of the year. This is also why I think Nintendo is waiting till 2011 to release 3DS in the US. They know that whether they release it in November or March that it will sell out, so why not get a few more months to produce hardware, maybe get a few more software titles in the launch lineup, and sell out of 3DS in March?

 

[BishopLamont]

Nintendo went years with the GC languishing...I doubt Nintendo cares about the Wii, when they have the 3DS to focus on. Wii 2 will come when the timing is right, similiar to how the DS paved the way to the Wii.

 

[Busaiku]

The've been following that advice in Japan for a while I'd reckon, which is why I think a Wii successor is closer than we think.

Releasing the Wii successor so close to 3DS seems like a bad move on Nintendo's part.

 

[cvxfreak]

Nintendo will be fine on the console front. Japan isn't the only region, nor has it been the biggest.


That's not to say they shouldn't try to improve their Japanese sales, but what else do they have left? DQX? Redesign?

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

It looks like there's a new leak for famitsu 1st day sales, at least a few jp blogs spreading it, andriasang has it on his blog too. I guess we should post it here too, but take it with a grain of salt until its proven so we can trust it for upcoming leaks.

First day sales (Famitsu, 6/25)

[NDS] Love Plus + (Konami) - 93,317 (NE 81,149 (58%), Nene LE 4,139, Manaka LE 4,017, Rinko LE 4,012)
[360] Monster Hunter Frontier Online (Capcom) - 65,066 (65.5%)
[NDS] Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side 3rd Story (Konami) - 43,330 (49.2%)
[PS3] Atelier Totori: Alchemist of Arland 2 (Gust) - 43,062 (NE 34,536 (55.0%), LE 8,596 (71.7%))
[PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva (Ohaidoku-han) (Sega) - 17,942 (LE 13,958 / NE 3,984)
[PS3] White Album: Tsuzurareru Fuyu no Omoide (Aqua Plus) - 17,657 (LE 10,960 / NE 6,697)
[PSP] My Summer Vacation Portable 2 (SCE) - 10,095
[PSP] Chaos; Head Noah (5pb.) - 8,310 (NE 4,492 / LE 3,818)
[PSP] Starry Sky: In Spring Portable (honeybee) - 5,549 (NE 2,496 / LE 3.053)
[WII] SD Gundam: Gashapon Wars (Bandai Namco) - 3,501

EDIT: See below...

 

[duckroll]

Looks pretty legit to me...

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

I didn't see that

Updating the post to include all numbers...

 

[FINALFANTASYDOG]

http://www.4gamer.net/games/104/G010477/20100630023/ (In Japanese)

The article really doesn't make it clear what this means: but as of today 116,765 different "hunters" have joined the MHF 360 Open Beta test(which would imply most of them brought the game) (can one player create multiple hunters?)

duckrolly, was that 35k just a random shot in the dark? I'm still curisous why you expected so long

 

[schuelma]

Nintendo will be fine on the console front. Japan isn't the only region, nor has it been the biggest.

This is very true. I do however think they have peaked in N.A and the price drop/ new bundles aren't going to do all that much leading a steady fall in N.A sales. I don't see a NSMB Wii to lead to insane sales this holiday. Don't get me wrong- I'm sure it will continue to do fine and outsell the other systems, but I think we will see year to year declines from now on. Don't know enough to comment on PAL land.

That's not to say they shouldn't try to improve their Japanese sales, but what else do they have left? DQX? Redesign?

Well, this is obviously too late, but they could have tried to make their 2010 lineup not suck so bad.

 

[Celine]

This is very true. I do however think they have peaked in N.A and the price drop/ new bundles aren't going to do all that much leading a steady fall in N.A sales. I don't see a NSMB Wii to lead to insane sales this holiday. Don't get me wrong- I'm sure it will continue to do fine and outsell the other systems, but I think we will see year to year declines from now on. Don't know enough to comment on PAL land.

Bu bu but Donkey Kong Country Returns.
Believe.

Speaking seriously, it's clear that the Wii craze has peaked but still the system can enjoy good sales in western markets in coming months.

 

[duckroll]

duckrolly, was that 35k just a random shot in the dark? I'm still curisous why you expected so long

I obviously want to lose! :lol

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu top 10: 21/06/10-27/06/10

01. [NDS] Love Plus + (Konami)
02. [360] Monster Hunter Frontier Online (Capcom)
03. [PS3] Atelier Totori: Alchemist of Arland 2 (Gust)
04. [NDS] Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side 3rd Story (Konami)
05. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
06. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva [Dekkai Ohaidoku-han / Ohaidoku-han] (Sega)
07. [PS3] White Album: Tsuzurareru Fuyu no Omoide (Aqua Plus)
08. [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo)
09. [PSP] My Summer Vacation Portable 2: Nazo Nazo Shimai to Chinbotsusen no Himitsu (SCE)
10. [NDS] Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Capcom)

 

[Nirolak]

First day sales (Famitsu, 6/25)

[360] Monster Hunter Frontier Online (Capcom) - 65,066 (65.5%)
[PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva (Ohaidoku-han) (Sega) - 17,942 (LE 13,958 / NE 3,984)

Would these be good or bad first day sales overall?

I thought the first Miku game sold around 175,000 copies LTD.

 

[Chris1964]

Would these be good or bad first day sales overall?

I thought the first Miku game sold around 175,000 copies LTD.

This isn't Hatsune Miku 2 but budget re-release of the first.

 

[Nirolak]

This isn't Hatsune Miku 2 but budget re-release of the first.

Oh, that makes a lot more sense now.

Thanks.

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu 2010 first half (28/12/09-27/06/10)

Hardware
NDS: 1.390.176 / 30.550.765
PSP: 1.243.802 / 14.630.257
WII: 934.010 / 10.436.009
PS3: 827.906 / 5.219.313
360: 103.481 / 1.301.354

Software
01. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 1.401.895 / 3.887.045
02. [NDS] Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Reviere (Square Enix) - 1.293.916 / NEW
03. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 (Square Enix) - 1.194.584 / NEW
04. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) - 1.012.437 / 3.324.385
05. [PSP] Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep (Square Enix) 728.286 / NEW

cvx don't forget Famitsu next week

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Of course Nintendo having a significantly cheaper console and releasing nearly all of their biggest franchises while Sony hasn't yet, might have something to do with it.

Ehh. The few major PS2 games that don't have any PS3 versions yet are probably never going to.

 

[Tenbatsu]

Not sure if this is posted, but Capcom sales expectation for MHP3rd is 3.6 million.

 

[Chris1964]

Not sure if this is posted, but Capcom sales expectation for MHP3rd is 3.6 million.

It makes sense but then you look at their expectations for Dead Rising 2 and Lost Planet 2:lol
There is no way Lost Planet 2 made that number unless they shipped 2,2M day one.

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu 2010 first half (28/12/09-27/06/10)

Some additional info

1st half 2009 (26 weeks)
HW: ¥92,17 billion
SW: ¥126,75 billion
TOTAL: ¥218,92 billion

1st half 2010 (26 weeks)
HW: ¥87,50 billion (94,9%)
SW: ¥140,86 billion (111,1%)
TOTAL: ¥228,36 billion (104,3%)

 

[Dalthien]

This is very true. I do however think they have peaked in N.A and the price drop/ new bundles aren't going to do all that much leading a steady fall in N.A sales. I don't see a NSMB Wii to lead to insane sales this holiday. Don't get me wrong- I'm sure it will continue to do fine and outsell the other systems, but I think we will see year to year declines from now on. Don't know enough to comment on PAL land.

They have almost certainly peaked in N.A. But that is perfectly normal and expected. Iwata even mentioned it in some investor briefing some months ago. They know the Wii has peaked, and they are just trying to guide it to a soft and gradual landing instead of a crash landing.

The PS2 peaked in its 2nd year as well, by the way, so this is not atypical at all.

PS2: (using full calendar years)

Year 1 - 6.18M
Year 2 - 8.39M
Year 3 - 6.31M
Year 4 - 4.68M

Wii:

Year 1 - 6.29M
Year 2 - 10.17M
Year 3 - 9.59M
Year 4 - ???


The Wii actually held up much better in Year 3 than should have been expected (and starting from a higher plateau as well), so it should probably be due for a bigger fall in Year 4. (Somewhere around only 4.76M for year 4 would actually put the Wii at the same Year 1 to Year 4 transition as the PS2)

Anyway, it shouldn't be any sort of surprise (or concern) that the Wii has already peaked.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Famitsu top 10: 21/06/10-27/06/10

01. [NDS] Love Plus + (Konami)
02. [360] Monster Hunter Frontier Online (Capcom)
03. [PS3] Atelier Totori: Alchemist of Arland 2 (Gust)
04. [NDS] Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side 3rd Story (Konami)
...
06. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva [Dekkai Ohaidoku-han / Ohaidoku-han] (Sega)

Year of the budget and/or powered-up re-releases strikes again.

Its too bad we have to wait about 10 days for Famitsu 1st week numbers despite having a look at the top10 already, I can't wait for proper comparisons of those new games (famitsu vs famitsu, 1st week vs 1st week).

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu 2010 first half (28/12/09-27/06/10)

Hardware
NDS: 1.390.176 / 30.550.765
PSP: 1.243.802 / 14.630.257
WII: 934.010 / 10.436.009
PS3: 827.906 / 5.219.313
360: 103.481 / 1.301.354

I totally missed we can extrapolate hw for last 2 weeks (14/06/10-20/06/10 & 21/06/10-27/06/10 combined)

NDS: 120.856 -> DS price cut in full force and this week there is Inazuma Eleven 3
PSP: 48.056
WII: 35.530
PS3: 37.861
360: 18.705 -> big rise for 360

EDIT: We can have a rough estimate for 21/06/10-27/06/10 hw if we take as base Media Create for 14/06/10-20/06/10.

NDS: 67k
PSP: 26k
WII: 17k
PS3: 19k
360: 17k

 

[Durante]

Year of the budget and/or powered-up re-releases strikes again.

Totori is neither of those.

Anyway, it got first day sales close to Rorona's first week which seems good.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Totori is neither of those.

Anyway, it got first day sales close to Rorona's first week which seems good.

That wasn't going for all titles quoted, only Love Plus + and Project Diva. I quoted the rest for the 2nd paragraph.

 

[Souldriver]

NDS: 67k
PSP: 26k
WII: 17k
PS3: 19k
360: 17k

That is just great.


Was there ever a week where it was 360 > PS3 > Wii ? I seem to remember a certain period where every console was doing low numbers with the 360 doing exceptionally well, but did this situation actually ever occur?