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[James Sawyer Ford]

Can't even imagine how it looks in max settings on PC. I did some back and forth between performance and quality on PS5 and it's absolutely shocking the difference between those modes. It's like skipping a full generation of graphics in some areas. Even worse than Callisto. Anyone currently playing SH2 on PS5 in performance mode should be cursed by 1000 Pyramid Heads.

And this is why I NEEED THAT PRO!!

It is maddening how many times I choose QUALITY because the difference is just staggering to my eyes. The extra detail >>>> frames for me in slow paced games. It looks far more next gen.

Pretty soon I won't need to choose (or if I do, it means the quality mode on PRO will look even more insane!)

 

[Zathalus]

Nice try

Thank you.

 

[Vick]

Fog isn’t reflected even with maximised RT quality so you get a bizarre clearer mirror world in puddles, revealing details ahead that should be fog-obscured.

Yeah, this is true. A bit distracting.

Massive difference with Ray Reconstruction by the way, but also pretty demanding:

 

[PicoLordens]

Oh Wow! Where? Must have missed that.

ON PSN

 

[Luipadre]

Performance is rough on both pc and PS5 sadly. Hopefully it will be better on the pro with pro support and some more optimization. I wanna replay this at 60 with quality visuals and better image quality thanks to PSSR

 

[Radical_3d]

It's listed as pro enhanced tho.

HeisenbergFX4

 

[SHA]

I hate the period when it's okay to shit on non pro console.

 

[Senua]

Nice try

 

[Kenneth Haight]

Performance whores please go away

Waiting for pro to play

 

[Skifi28]

Need a drawing?

If it's from you, I'll treasure it.

 

[Doctor Hades]

And this is why I NEEED THAT PRO!!

It is maddening how many times I choose QUALITY because the difference is just staggering to my eyes. The extra detail >>>> frames for me in slow paced games. It looks far more next gen.

Pretty soon I won't need to choose (or if I do, it means the quality mode on PRO will look even more insane!)

One thing is certain, the PS5 Pro will not be running Silent Hill 2 at a locked 60 fps, based on the performance of the base version.

It would be nice if the developers added a 40 fps / 120 Hz mode for the Pro but somehow I think we'll still get the same "up to" 30 fps and "up to" 60 fps modes, but I would expect the 30 fps Quality mode should be a bit more stable with the 10% boost to the Pro's CPU.

 

[Vick]

One thing is certain, the PS5 Pro will not be running Silent Hill 2 at a locked 60 fps, based on the performance of the base version.

It would be nice if the developers added a 40 fps / 120 Hz mode for the Pro but somehow I think we'll still get the same "up to" 30 fps and "up to" 60 fps modes, but I would expect the 30 fps Quality mode should be a bit more stable with the 10% boost to the Pro's CPU.

There's always a chance Bloober could come up with one lazy, lackluster Pro support.. but I bookmarked this post.

 

[Bojji]

There's always a chance Bloober could come up with one lazy, lackluster Pro support.. but I bookmarked this post.

30fps PS5 version can run in 45fps on pro.

This is just using 45% increase.

If they add pssr, performance uplift will be less than that. Unless they also drop resolution.

Of course I'm talking about software lumen, hardware lumen is even more demanding.

I GUESS that they will keep 30fps mode but change software lumen to hardware and swap their AA with pssr.

Performance mode will be the same but with higher res (and pssr?).

 

[rodrigolfp]

Vsync introduces a lot of input lag. Avoid it.

 

[SkyHighTrees]

30fps PS5 version can run in 45fps on pro.

This is just using 45% increase.

If they add pssr, performance uplift will be less than that. Unless they also drop resolution.

Of course I'm talking about software lumen, hardware lumen is even more demanding.

I GUESS that they will keep 30fps mode but change software lumen to hardware and swap their AA with pssr.

Performance mode will be the same but with higher res (and pssr?).

If they drop res to 1080p on quality mode, and go with PSSR, they will run it at 60 for your demise

 

[Bojji]

If they drop res to 1080p on quality mode, and go with PSSR, they will run it at 60 for your demise

It already drops to resolution not much above 1080p in quality mode (and still drops frames):

But it has reconstruction (TAAU, TSR, FSR2? Not specified) to 4k so cost of PSSR should be almost 0. Maybe using performance mode settings but with quality mode lumen would get them to 60fps?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

HeisenbergFX4

I don't see it listed as pro enhanced on the store

ON PSN

I don't see it listed as pro enhanced

Edit - Thank you for the tag though Radical_3d

 

[Azelover]

I'm playing it on PC and I think it looks fantastic. My PC is not the best in the market, so the framerate dips slightly. To be honest it doesn't bother me. Maybe I'm just weird but I think it's a good experience..

 

[PicoLordens]

I don't see it listed as pro enhanced on the store


I don't see it listed as pro enhanced

Edit - Thank you for the tag though Radical_3d

Could've sworn I saw the pro enhanced tag. My bad otherwise.

 

[mckmas8808]

Could've sworn I saw the pro enhanced tag. My bad otherwise.

You tricked us.

 

[kevboard]

It already drops to resolution not much above 1080p in quality mode (and still drops frames):

those numbers make sense. I started it on my RTX3060ti PC, with hardware RT on I have to use DLSS settings that correspond to roughly that PS5 performance mode resolution.

I'm playing at 1440p DLSS Balanced with hardware Raytracing enabled. this is about 1485x835 internal resolution. all other settings I have on medium. I wonder which ones the PS5 uses there.

I get a range of 50~70fps with that. but with the typical Unreal Engine I/O stutters of course sadly... god how I hate this dogshit engine. oh, and dynamic res seems to be absolutely broken on PC too... at least it absolutely doesn't work right when I tried using it in combination with TSR

 

[Gaiff]

Seems the Pro will be a nice option for UE5 games.

 

[winjer]

Seems the Pro will be a nice option for UE5 games.

And the worst part is that PC gamers have been complaining about stutters for almost a decade now, with UE4 and now with UE5.
Epic has done so little to fix these issues. It's cool that they introduce so many features. But I would rather they would have a fix for stutters on PC.

 

[Panajev2001a]

And the worst part is that PC gamers have been complaining about stutters for almost a decade now, with UE4 and now with UE5.
Epic has done so little to fix these issues. It's cool that they introduce so many features. But I would rather they would have a fix for stutters on PC.

In the land of Steam Deck and Proton at some point this will land (Steam Deck 2) and we will at least have the issue fixed (shader pre-caching updates ).

 

[Gaiff]

And the worst part is that PC gamers have been complaining about stutters for almost a decade now, with UE4 and now with UE5.
Epic has done so little to fix these issues. It's cool that they introduce so many features. But I would rather they would have a fix for stutters on PC.

That’s simply beautiful.

 

[Bojji]

In the land of Steam Deck and Proton at some point this will land (Steam Deck 2) and we will at least have the issue fixed (shader pre-caching updates ).

Game does pre complile when you first launch it (loading screen), I don't think shader stutters are the main issue here. Traversal stutters are (and they are on PS5 as well), typical UE thing since dawn of time. It will MAYBE be fixed by CDPR, they are working on improving this for their open world games.



I love that first thing CDPR has to do with their new engine is to fix it, lol.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Game does pre complile when you first launch it (loading screen), I don't think shader stutters are the main issue here. Traversal stutters are (and they are on PS5 as well), typical UE thing since dawn of time. It will MAYBE be fixed by CDPR, they are working on improving this for their open world games.



I love that first thing CDPR has to do with their new engine is to fix it, lol.

Well, UE must be a massive massive beast. Despite it being kind of open source and many studios submitting issues it must be very hard to get them to land in upstream. The burden on upstream merging is higher than “I made it work in my project”. I do not envy those trying to fix core problems in UE that have not been properly addressed in a general way for eons and the codebase got more and more and more complex / grew with more and more features each year.

 

[RodriGames40]

Game does pre complile when you first launch it (loading screen), I don't think shader stutters are the main issue here. Traversal stutters are (and they are on PS5 as well), typical UE thing since dawn of time. It will MAYBE be fixed by CDPR, they are working on improving this for their open world games.



I love that first thing CDPR has to do with their new engine is to fix it, lol.

Them spending two years fixing the absolute nightmare that was RED Engine be like.