GnomeChimpsky
Member
Academia will be interesting these coming years as it rids itself of all this garbage. I suspect there will be full-blown intellectual civil wars in some fields.
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Cancel culture appears to be losing steam
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Maybe blame the people who made “Strong Black Woman” the DEI poster child. Blame the people who started race swapping characters and making every single fictional or historical setting as diverse as downtown LA and trying to cancel anyone who pointed out that it doesn’t make sense. Blame black Cleopatra.
People used to be OK with diverse casting and mostly thought it was kinda cool. But nowadays it’s a strong indication that the writers don’t know how to fucking write and they put messaging over story + characters. You can’t blame people for noticing patterns.
Ironic how the “let’s force extreme diversity into everything, and call everyone bigots if they don’t like it” strategy just made people start disliking diversity. You morons only hurt the people you pretended to help.
Sadly we wont be allowed that anymore, we need to be kept fighting each other.
Dev1lXYZ
Member
I lost faith in humanity during COVID. Having had a two year bout of what people smirk at. Yes long COVID exists. I had fatigue all of the time and could barely work. These bastards did everything in their power to make me walk the plank career wise.
Got the virus again in March, was prescribed Paxlovid and it eliminated all of it.
Despite Ron DeSantis being anti DEI, as a state worker that shit and quack EQ bullshit was being rammed down our throats especially when he chased the presidency. I’m divested myself in July and I know enough about the Florida Retirement System to make a lot of people very very pissed off.
I don’t plan on ever going through that experience ever again. I can attest that I’ll never work for a woman, or minority driven environment ever again.
The bad apples are embedded and do nothing but hire their friends and relatives. That’s government for you.
I’m living the life now that I can reorient myself and try to follow my dreams. I have the money and the drive now.
Got the virus again in March, was prescribed Paxlovid and it eliminated all of it.
Despite Ron DeSantis being anti DEI, as a state worker that shit and quack EQ bullshit was being rammed down our throats especially when he chased the presidency. I’m divested myself in July and I know enough about the Florida Retirement System to make a lot of people very very pissed off.
I don’t plan on ever going through that experience ever again. I can attest that I’ll never work for a woman, or minority driven environment ever again.
The bad apples are embedded and do nothing but hire their friends and relatives. That’s government for you.
I’m living the life now that I can reorient myself and try to follow my dreams. I have the money and the drive now.
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Unknown?
Member
They want you to believe the falsehoods that they believe, that some dude who had surgery is suddenly a biological woman.
You aren't supposed to believe reality, science, and are supposed to be confused on reality so you believe the lie. Because if you can believe a lie so utterly asinine, they can make you believe anything like the sky is green.
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Academia was the source, so it will probably be the last to purge it (if ever). It would be nice though.
Hope this is going to pick up here in Canada too.
Still happening, add it to the long list of Ginger erasure.
Idris Elba in Early Talks to Play Man-at-Arms in Amazon and Mattel's ‘Masters of the Universe’ Movie | Exclusive
Idris Elba is in early talks to play “Man at Arms” in the live-action “Masters of the Universe” movie based on the iconic Mattel franchise.
www.thewrap.com
Nydius
Member
States saying “we do not want these sexually explicit materials in our public schools” is not the same as banning them. Those books are still readily available to buy if parents want their kids to have them. They have no business being in public schools - especially not elementary and middle schools.
Anyone claiming this is the same as outright book banning has swallowed the propaganda hook, line, and sinker.
Besides, last I checked this wasn’t exactly a right-only thing. I recall multiple liberal-leaning school boards trying to remove books like To Kill A Mockingbird, Of Mice and Men, and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn because they had “offensive language” (aka the n-word). Let’s not forget how leftists called for all JKR’s books to be pulled over her personal transgender opinions — ironic considering two decades earlier liberals fought against the knee-jerk conservative attempts to block her books over silly “witchcraft” claims. Want to make a liberal go apoplectic? Just say that the Bible (and the Tanakh, and the Qu’ran) should be in public school libraries.
Spare me the propaganda and righteous indignation. Both the left and right have been trying to remove and censor media as long as I’ve been alive. I remember Joe Lieberman and Tipper Gore. I remember the Satanic Panic and the ludicrous claims against popular metal/rock music.
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Morrie’s wig shop
Member
Gods be praised…
It's not Man-at-Arms that's the ginger assault here, it's Bae Teela!Still happening, add it to the long list of Ginger erasure.
Idris Elba in Early Talks to Play Man-at-Arms in Amazon and Mattel's ‘Masters of the Universe’ Movie | Exclusive
Idris Elba is in early talks to play “Man at Arms” in the live-action “Masters of the Universe” movie based on the iconic Mattel franchise.
Going to
She's cute and im not really much vested in heman ethnicity or whatever, but the redhead erasure is real.
Nah, that shit was a legit concern. Me and my mates spent MANY a night playing KISS and other metal records backwards trying to summon demons. Just because it never worked doesn't mean we weren't for real
daffyduck
Member
CNN •still• thinks it’s a good hill to die on.
Nydius
Member
Just because it never worked doesn't mean we weren't for real
Maybe it DID work and all of society’s problems are due to the demons you and your friends summoned.
Thanks a lot, man! 
INC
Member
Actions have consequences, you don't get to try fuck someone over, then get to go on with 0 consequences.
Forgive and forget is generally what the guilty want, when they know they're in the wrong.
So yeh, fuck around and find out
LegendOfKage
Member
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
All it took was a little bit of backbone and courage, which far too few people have.
But credit to people like JK Rowling for speaking out about certain issues that are important to her, setting the example, and giving courage to others to follow suit. I mean, it's a shame that needed to happen for people to have the guts to state factual truths publicly, but it's better late than never.
Going forward I expect it will always exist though in certain pockets where it'll be a lot stronger than others. As long as activists hold positions of authority, it will never truly be eradicated.
But credit to people like JK Rowling for speaking out about certain issues that are important to her, setting the example, and giving courage to others to follow suit. I mean, it's a shame that needed to happen for people to have the guts to state factual truths publicly, but it's better late than never.
Going forward I expect it will always exist though in certain pockets where it'll be a lot stronger than others. As long as activists hold positions of authority, it will never truly be eradicated.
Pop
Member
I know you're trying to be witty and all but all hollywood has to do is stop replacing white characters with black actors in the name of "diversity".
Hollywood isn't doing it to make the material better but to push an agenda.
Here's the thing you guys don't seem to be grasping, pre-Musk, when Twitter was all left leaning or whatever, I rarely saw any politics on my feed or my recommendations. That's how I curated it, I'm there just for gaming, some music, retro tech, etc. that's how it was for me. I didn't follow any woke accounts or dumb shit like that.
However now, I constantly get the odd right leaning account or "Anti-Woke" accounts appearing in my For You and recommendations, the annoying AI thing is obsessed with politics. So now, for me, twitter is more politics/culture war pushing despite me having avoided all of that in the past.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Man, it sucks because I really like him as an actor and I think he’s a good pick for the role…but the race swapping shit (especially redheads) has been pushed so hard in Hollywood, there’s bound to be a backlash. Yet another movie turning into a battleground.Still happening, add it to the long list of Ginger erasure.
Idris Elba in Early Talks to Play Man-at-Arms in Amazon and Mattel's ‘Masters of the Universe’ Movie | Exclusive
Idris Elba is in early talks to play “Man at Arms” in the live-action “Masters of the Universe” movie based on the iconic Mattel franchise.
Please tell me Kevin Smith has nothing to do with this movie.
AfricanKing
Member
Yeah Cancel Culture ain’t going anywhere .. Matt Gatez just found that out the hard way.
Also it’s funny how posters are mixing cancel culture with DEI practices… the 2 don’t even share a room apart from being practised by the liberals.
Also it’s funny how posters are mixing cancel culture with DEI practices… the 2 don’t even share a room apart from being practised by the liberals.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Remember...Colin was cancelled becasue he said "Peace and Quiet" on the International Woman´s Day.
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Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Being kind to 0.5% of the human population by calling them he or she according to their choices is not going to upend biological, scientific reality Funk. If you prefer you can conceptualize as them, within society, adopting male or female roles instead of their assigned roles at birth.
I expected most of gaf to be quite abusive to this minority, but not you Funk
Your words sadden me.
This isn't the issue though. It's putting MEN into women's prisons where rapes and pregnancies occur. It's putting MEN into the ring, pool, or field with women and seeing girls lose or get hurt. It's saying MEN could menstruate, could give birth, or all sorts of other nonsense.
If someone wants to dress a certain way, go for it. If they want to be addressed as "she/her" then put it in your bio and be done with it. If you have a full beard and a swinging dick, STAY OUT of my daughters locker room and bathroom!
It's just common sense, really. If the trans community just wants to be left alone like the rest of us, they gotta stop with the nonsense; crack a beer, and chill. Don't enter women's beauty parents, don't box women without their consent, don't accept shit like "women of the year" because it's ridiculous.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Ah. Cancel culture... Like boycotting or cancelling Budweiser for giving a one time only case of beer to a trans content creator... That doesn't count tho... For some reason.
That wasn't really the problem. It was the VP of marketing or whatever saying they wanted to get away from "frat boy appeal". THAT is what got folks riled up. The trans influencer thing then became a signal of the audience bud apparently wanted instead of "frat boys" and they lost billions for it, deservedly so.
Most don't care if there is niche marketing so long as it is clear the core audience is getting served as well. But when EVERY ad is going for that niche group, well, reap what you sow
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
You can call them their chosen he or she and make the argument that they don't belong in the same competition for X reasons. You're just mudding the waters.
No I'm not. If you want to be reffered by the opposite sex then you can A. Look like the opposite sex and I'll never know (that's the goal, right?) or B. Ask politely and anyone who is not a jerk will likely comply.
But to say it's "deadnaming" and "misgendering" and a HATE CRIME to call you what you ARE is the ridiculous cross the line aspect. And a guy with a dick DOES NOT belong in a locker room of females....FULL STOP. Do you think otherwise???
Humdinger
Gold Member
If you want to use cancel culture against them, that's your prerogative. I won't do it, for the reasons I mentioned earlier (e.g., lowering yourself, amplifying the problem, hypocrisy).
I'll add one more. It'll probably sound misogynistic, but oh well. Cancel culture uses methods that overlap with women's characteristic style of expressing aggression - smears, reputation destruction, behind-the-back gossip, isolation, and exclusion. It's no coincidence that most SJWs are women. I'm no macho man, but engaging in cancel culture feels unmanly to me.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
And it was all his own doing ... Sleeping with underage girls and being the least liked member of the House for a variety of reasons.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking as well. The “true believers” are a small group of catty women with acid tongues. And for every one of them, there are 20 other people who just go along with it. Guys who don’t feel like getting nagged and scolded by their wives/girlfriends. People who don’t want to run afoul of the HR department. Dudes who think it’ll be easier to get laid if they just agree with the stuff she says. As well as people who have been bullied and now relish the opportunity to do the bullying for a change.If you want to use cancel culture against them, that's your prerogative. I won't do it, for the reasons I mentioned earlier (e.g., lowering yourself, amplifying the problem, hypocrisy).
I'll add one more. It'll probably sound misogynistic, but oh well. Cancel culture uses methods that overlap with women's characteristic style of expressing aggression - smears, reputation destruction, behind-the-back gossip, isolation, and exclusion. It's no coincidence that most SJWs are women. I'm no macho man, but engaging in cancel culture feels unmanly to me.
The right answer is to just speak your mind and say what you actually feel. And vote with your wallet.
INC
Member
If you want to use cancel culture against them, that's your prerogative. I won't do it, for the reasons I mentioned earlier (e.g., lowering yourself, amplifying the problem, hypocrisy).
I'll add one more. It'll probably sound misogynistic, but oh well. Cancel culture uses methods that overlap with women's characteristic style of expressing aggression - smears, reputation destruction, behind-the-back gossip, isolation, and exclusion. It's no coincidence that most SJWs are women. I'm no macho man, but engaging in cancel culture feels unmanly to me.
I don't wanna engage in it, just see these retards get a taste of their own shitty medicine.
Back in my day you talk smack to someone, guess what happens....?
The least that van happen is they get a time out and see what it's like, sometimes the only way some people learn is with metaphorical punch in the mouth, it humbles people real quick, and males you reaccess how you navigate life
Cause/effect
Humdinger
Gold Member
If you don't want to engage in cancel culture, then we have no argument. That's what the conversation was about. Someone said why don't we use cancel culture against them. I responded, no, we shouldn't, for reasons I explained. You posted in opposition, giving support to the idea of using cancel culture. But if that's not what you're talking about, then we can drop it.
I'm fine if the left wants to eat itself. They seem to be doing a pretty good job of it lately. And I'm fine if people want to battle online with them, insult them, ignore them, whatever. That's not what I was talking about. I was talking specifically about using cancel culture to fight cancel culture. That's a very bad idea.
I agree that actions have consequences. I was never saying we should do nothing, just forgive and forget. I was saying don't let your desire for retribution cause you to become what you despise.
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INC
Member
That was me, I wanna see it happen, but have interest in pursuing it, just wanna see their tears flow, and hear them cry about how its not fair, blah blah blah. Pathetic humans tbh, a skidmark on the gene pool, who have proved their opinion and views are retarded, and should be held accountable in some way
Hope this clears up any confusion on the situation of these blue haired, unshaven retards
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Still was one of the craziest cancellation attempts ever. Dude said the most PG milquetoast joke and you had a bunch of betas and lunatics feigning outrage just to virtue signal to their perceived ideological in crowd. It was one of the most pathetic displays of loser behavior I've seen. The guy didn't remotely do or say anything wrong.Remember...Colin was cancelled becasue he said "Peace and Quiet" on the International Woman´s Day.
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And people genuinely think Twitter is worse today than it was then. I think you can argue it's still bad, but in no way is it worse. This kind of shit happened aaaaall the time on that platform back then. Just a bunch of psychotic lunatics attacking people and trying to ruin the lives of people for no reason. And it was always the same people. Insecure betas who want acceptance or the societal outcasts who were looking to take out their rage on anyone and anything. Seems like BlueSky is now the home for a lot of those same nutters.
And to think that Greg Miller legitimately ended his friendship with Colin over such nonsense. What a douche that guy turned out to be. Colin helped him during his cancer treatment and this is how you treat someone like that. If nothing else though, it showed Colin who his real friends are and the good people in his life are and who are the phonies only in it for themselves.
Humdinger
Gold Member
Yeah, I'm pessimistic about academia changing. Most of those professors have tenure. They hire people who think like them. They fund research that supports their views and ignore other points of view. It's all pretty incestuous and self-reinforcing. It exists in a bubble protected from many of the normal consequences that would cause other institutions to reform. Lots of groupthink and pressures to conform to the prevailing ideology.
So I'm not optimistic about academia changing much. I think Trump has some plans about that. I'm not clear on the specifics. Maybe he can make some progress.
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BigDeadFreak
Member
No it doesn't count. Choosing to not engage with something is different to trying to stop others engaging with it.
I don't engage with religion because I'm an atheist. However, I make no attempt to stop others from doing so. I won't try to get my colleagues sacked if I find out they are Muslims. I don't go to synagogues with megaphones and try to disrupt the service. I won't label you as evil if you believe in transubstantiation and try to get bookshops to stop selling the Bible.
You have to respect the rights of others to live their life and do their thing even if you don't like it. It's called liberalism and it's the only way we can live alongside people who are different to us without trying to kill each other. What the left has done recently is try to force everyone go along with their ideas and beliefs. This creates a zero sum game in which we all lose.
The sad thing is they had won most people over into believing that sexism, racism, homophobia, etc. were wrong. Since then they have massively overplayed their hand and created a huge pushback which jeopardises the progress they have made.
Progressives don't even realize thar their movement would be in a much better place if they focused on winning hearts and minds rather than canceling everybody that didn't toe the line.
They spent so much time crying wolf that people shrug now that we have some actual wolves.
They spent so much time crying wolf that people shrug now that we have some actual wolves.
bitbydeath
Member
You realise you’re just feeding their mental illness though right?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Oh virtuous ones, gaslight us, bait us and save us!
Unknown?
Member
You're lucky then. I had a Twitter just for advertising and only to Sonic fans. Seeing the political crap was insufferable, so I deleted it and will never go back.
The only good thing about Musk is you won't get banned for speaking your mind. You say it's swinging back but it's more like one side is allowed to speak now. No one on the other side is being silenced on a systemic scale.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Yup.
All mob mentality people have to do to get their point across is do it in a chill way and maybe people will accept it. Maybe they wont. But end of the day it doesn't create hostility back.
It's like spam mail. It's like everyone's email inbox, where everyone could live with a few spams getting through. But once it's floodgates open people get pissed and that's when people take action to fight it back (automated spam box). And the email company helps out to counter the spam for you.
BLM was a similar situation where Floyd situation made every sports league go ape shit on BLM. Then leagues turned back when they realized fans were getting pissed as they turned it into a Floyd BLM stage show. Even the NBA exec Silver publicly admitted they went too far and scaled it back. A year after BLM was almost gone. And years later now, 100% gone.
Swing the pendulum preaching like a jackass, and it'll swing back hitting back.
And the past year with wokey TV, movie and games going down the tubes, and the election results show people had enough. Strength in numbers. So despite progressives not disappearing, their cancel culture views will be ignored and it's time for it to swing the other way mob mentality back. Some companies already flip flopped back anti-DEI months ago as customers already spoke out. The election results just cemented the comeback.
All the progressives had to do is inch their way and not ruffle feathers being loud and cancel culturing and people might understand and tolerate it. Nope. Give an inch, take a mile has never been truer. Now the other side will take the inch back. They had a good thing going, but got greedy.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Need more patience is really part of the key. Giving zero leeway to anyone not passing their purity tests, despite plenty of evidence that people can change over time to become more accepting of what was or is considered a progressive ideal.
Even seen lots of nastiness towards people praising someone who changed. “Not gonna praise someone for eventually doing the right thing” kind of bullshit.
Just so dumb to think it wouldn’t cause a big backlash. I think a lot of it stems from the belief that they are the majority and so can just be nasty. Problem with they is even if it was true at one point in time all the nastiness and purity testing is going to filter out many folks to not be support anymore. Basic psychology really.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Problem with progressive loudmouths is lack of experience and tolerance. You can tell they are loners and dont have good jobs working at companies.
Why?
Because in life if you want to get your way, kicking and screaming is something 8 year olds do. Parents might give in to shut the kid up, but end of the day they are being childish brats. But at least it's understandable since they are kids. Getting the same childish mentality from a 28 or 48 year old is different. You dont bargain with idiots. Like kids, you ight give in a bit hoping they calm down, but if they keep on crying for new toys every day, then every parent will eventually cut the cord and tell Timmy to shut the fuck up. Timmy doesnt know better. But grown adults crying and cancel culturing should.
At the office, if someone or a team wants to get their way getting new laptops, you go to the boss or IT and say they need new ones because the current ones are old and have lousy power. If they can convince them in a mature way, great. But lets say IT or their supervisor says no. well, you live with it and try again like an adult another time. You dont send a company memo saying they are cheap and should get fired.
But an emotional progressive would do that.
It gets to a point everyone sees the guy is wacko and ignores him. Even if the guy has some valid concerns later on, most people will still ignore the guy because they'll automatically think he's an idiot and got some nasty motive ready to unleash.
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
Being kind to 0.5% of the human population by calling them he or she according to their choices is not going to upend biological, scientific reality Funk. If you prefer you can conceptualize as them, within society, adopting male or female roles instead of their assigned roles at birth.
I expected most of gaf to be quite abusive to this minority, but not you Funk
Your words sadden me.
?? I never said I wouldn’t call a person by the pronoun they want to go by. But I won’t also throw women under the bus by allowing males into their spaces, and I won’t deny biological reality just because a trans person wants me to.
The damage in this relationship has been done by the trans activist movement demanding things that simply aren’t true and aren’t fair. There is a compromise to be had, but not at the cost of fairness towards women, and science.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Yeah for real. Whole lot of people told they were smart who aren’t too lol. I’m working with w Gen Z girl who is a junior consultant who asked me to mentor her and our meetings are basically her just going “I don’t get how, like what do I like, do, to like… get promoted?”
I really just want to scream at her “actually be good at your job for a few years you fuck.” She’s fucking terrible at her job but I bet she was raised in a “you can do anything you want!” Kind of atmosphere that left out the “with hard work and some natural skill.”
She’s fucking terrible at her job, lazy, and legit talks like a child in our Slack. Her awful vocal fry just makes me want to build a Time Machine and abort her.
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The Pleasure
Member
That's what happens when my legs go numb on the toilet.This is what I see every time I close my eyes:
