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[Lionel Richie]

Myopic animalistic self-interested instinct is likely to contribute. Many, many people are living extravagantly, and want more extravagance, not austerity that effects them, they don't want to moderate. Will make any excuse not to. Instinctive urges may contribute to filtering humanity, if it's not overcome by considered thought.

Why should they want to moderate? Our lifespan is miniscule and our god complex won't save us from going the way every known organism in the universe is set to go. I'm not advocating doing obviously stupid things that would harm the immediate future, just because we have nukes (literally and metaphorically) it doesn't mean we have to use them. I just don't get the pretense of wanting to control something that is so clearly beyond our control.

 

[Putonahappyface]

I'll be within the blast radius, as I'm not dying slowly of radiation poisoning etc.

 

[ForAcademicPurposes]

I'm not dying slowly of radiation poisoning etc.

 

[FunkMiller]

Pres. Obama is certainly rich, but not rich enough that he can piss away tens of millions of dollars on bad real estate deals. He's not just an American politician, he was the President of the United States who had access to all government intelligence and studies about climate change and quickly invested a sizable amount of his net worth on coastal property. If the worst case scenarios were likely, I don't think he would have done that.

I love how you cheerfully just ignore the fact it’s not at any danger from sea level rises The story went around among climate change denying media and social media, and nobody bothered to look up any actual facts.

 

[Blade2.0]

Climate change will cause the sixth great extinction. Not everything will die. I'm sure cats and roaches will continue on after we're gone and subjugate some other more advanced species that eventually takes our place. They are the ultimate life form, after all.

 

[IDKFA]

Climate change will cause the sixth great extinction. Not everything will die.

Not everything has to die for it to be considered an extinction event.

 

[TwiztidElf]

No solar micronova (we're due now), or magnetic pole reversal?
Huh.

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

we have space crafts that can fly there, we have computers that can navigate there... we have space crafts that can sustain human life for long durations of time.

we have all the components needed, just not anyone who is willing to give a massive budget and massive amounts of manpower towards that goal, as it will have limited potential to make any profits from such an endeavour. that's the limiting factor here... the incentive...

Bro . Cosmic Rays will kill or severely damage anyone who takes that journey. Not to mention the radiation or the damage zero gravity does to the human body.

Humans flying to mars and starting a colony in our timeline is an Elon DMT pipedream.

The best we can do is get drones, nano technology and AI do all that shit.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

dWe live in a simulation and as long as the gnostic entities beyond our comprehension deem it fit we will keep going in this cybernetic Samsara where transhumanism binds us tighter to the wheel.

Demiurge (theology)

Nebro, better known as Yaldabaoth and the Demiurge, is a malevolent figure from varied belief systems, especially Gnosticism. While many confuse the Demiurge with an "evil God" stereotype, it is actually a figure below that of the Supreme Being, thus in many ways is a paradoxical deity that...

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I always found the Gnostic texts interesting

 

[RoboFu]

Well eventually our sun will explode but before then it will start getting bigger and the few degrees difference will kill us all first .

 

[West Texas CEO]

Well eventually our sun will explode but before then it will start getting bigger and the few degrees difference will kill us all first .

I think this notion has been debunked.

Boomers, please read updated textbooks before you start ranting

 

[RoboFu]

I think this notion has been debunked.

Boomers, please read updated textbooks before you start ranting

You don't think the sun is going to turn into a red giant and explode? That's literally elementary school knowledge.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Climate change is made up to promote ev cars!! My hunch is technology just got started (over 200 years ago) followed by advancements else where but yes there are always conclusions to everything.

 

[light2x]

None of the above. We aren't even close to being wiped out in the next 100 years or so.

Edit: Some interesting reading regarding climate change:

Many climate change scientists do not agree that global warming is happening - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Will climate change drive humans extinct or destroy civilization?

Almost certainly not—but unless we act quickly to stop warming the planet, there will be very severe consequences for many, many people. October 20, 2023

climate.mit.edu

First post best post. I had much lower expectations for the average IQ of this forum.

Anyone who thinks humanity is going to be wiped out any time soon outside of an inadvertent apocalyptic event like an impact event is fooling themselves.

List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Humans are here to stay, whether we like it or not.

 

[RickSanchez]

Increase in global temp does increase the amount of water the atmosphere can hold.

Steamy Relationships: How Atmospheric Water Vapor Amplifies Earth's Greenhouse Effect - NASA Science

Water vapor is Earth’s most abundant greenhouse gas. It’s responsible for about half of Earth’s greenhouse effect — the process that occurs when gases in Earth’s atmosphere trap the Sun’s heat. Greenhouse gases keep our planet livable. Without them, Earth’s surface temperature would be about 59...

science.nasa.gov

Water being not just drawn from the ocean makes trees and land dry out more. The severity and frequency of forest fires will continue to increase with rising global atmosphere temps.

aah, this is a better explanation than what i posted, thanks.

So yeah, basically extreme scarcity of fresh water is a real problem for the future, maybe not in our lifetimes, but very likely for our children or grandchildren.

 

[FunkMiller]

Well eventually our sun will explode but before then it will start getting bigger and the few degrees difference will kill us all first .

Our sun is too small on the sequence to go supernova. It’s just not cool enough.

It’s a boring little shit.

Look at it:

What a non-supernova forming twat.

 

[Kraz]

aah, this is a better explanation than what i posted, thanks.

So yeah, basically extreme scarcity of fresh water is a real problem for the future, maybe not in our lifetimes, but very likely for our children or grandchildren.

One of the problems.
Extremes leaving too little and too much at the same time. Destabilizing until ..ha ha ha ha wipeout

Mass causality wet bulb events could start happening next year in vulnerable places, even North America if power systems are poorly regulated and maintained, but those won't immediately wipe out humans everywhere.

 

[Kraz]

Why should they want to moderate? Our lifespan is miniscule and our god complex won't save us from going the way every known organism in the universe is set to go. I'm not advocating doing obviously stupid things that would harm the immediate future, just because we have nukes (literally and metaphorically) it doesn't mean we have to use them. I just don't get the pretense of wanting to control something that is so clearly beyond our control.

Working toward survivability of biological life isn't a god complex, Mormon example upcoming. But life will survive, not human life with current attitudes.
Natural selection is the 'judgement of god', so to speak. The human model can't even keep this well moderated planet sustainable for themselves due to the need to exploit it destructively for immediate gratification of unnecessary indulgence. The behavior doesn't even qualify for the Mormon delusions about becoming godlike and managing cosmos/planets.
The universe is the only thing that exists. There is no simulation. The Earth won't be renewed for the chosen humans. There is no heaven, only matter, space, and consciousness.

 

[chakadave]

No solar micronova (we're due now), or magnetic pole reversal?
Huh.

They don't beleiveor talk about those things...

 

[Guileless]

I love how you cheerfully just ignore the fact it’s not at any danger from sea level rises The story went around among climate change denying media and social media, and nobody bothered to look up any actual facts.

I will admit I did not look up the elevation of Pres. Obama's property. I will concede that point. However - huge investments in hyper-exclusive coastal enclaves still don't make sense if catastrophic climate change is imminent. Even with elevation.

 

[EviLore]

I will admit I did not look up the elevation of Pres. Obama's property. I will concede that point. However - huge investments in hyper-exclusive coastal enclaves still don't make sense if catastrophic climate change is imminent. Even with elevation.

It’s not imminent, tbh. There’s a concerted effort to say that it is because humans aren’t typically going to care about dangers 100 years away, and by the time it’s obvious to the general public the damage may be irreversible and catastrophic.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

When this lot are done life won’t be worth living for anyone anyway…

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Just what i've read around the internet. here's an example search result: https://www.bing.com/search?q=are+earth's+fresh+water+sources+depleting+?&form=ANNH01&refig=fbb6dec891834355a7e8d7b5d5cdcea3&pc=U531

I did say it was an extreme possibility, but it is conceivable. here's why (and if my science here is wrong, feel free to correct me):

The water cycle on the planet runs as follows: Sea water evaporates into clouds. Clouds go over land and drop rain or snow. Rain or snow turn into glaciers and rivers, which supply fresh water. Used water runs back into the sea. Now, because of rising atmospheric temperatures, more sea water evaporates, but less of it precipitates into snow and rain. Which means we are still losing the same amount of water to the seas but getting less of it back to replenish our glaciers, rivers and lakes. Overall, this results in a gradual but real decline in fresh water reserves. To some extent this has been documented by the rise in sea levels, depleting glaciers and shrinking polar ice caps.

Not sure I understand the bolded. You're saying there is more water evaporating into the atmosphere but less of it is precipitating back into drinkable sources?

So there should be a measurable increase in global cloud cover and/or an increase in precipitation only above oceans and seas, thus mixing the drinkable water back with saltwater.
Am I understanding correctly?

Edit: okay, NASA's explanation is clearer to me:

NASA Satellites Reveal Abrupt Drop in Global Freshwater Levels - NASA Science

Earth’s total amount of freshwater dropped abruptly starting in May 2014 and has remained low ever since.

science.nasa.gov

While total annual rain and snowfall levels may not change dramatically, long periods between intense precipitation events allow the soil to dry and become more compact. That decreases the amount of water the ground can absorb when it does rain.

“The problem when you have extreme precipitation,” Bosilovich said, “is the water ends up running off,” instead of soaking in and replenishing groundwater stores.

So, yes, there is a problem because we are not able to store enough of the rainwater we get, due to more extream - and more widely separated - precipitation events. The same amount of rain, distributed differently, would be enough for us. But currently when it rains, most of that rain quickly flows back to the oceans instead of being absorbed into aquifers.
Fun times ahead.

 

[Blade2.0]

First post best post. I had much lower expectations for the average IQ of this forum.

Anyone who thinks humanity is going to be wiped out any time soon outside of an inadvertent apocalyptic event like an impact event is fooling themselves.

List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Humans are here to stay, whether we like it or not.

This is a fallacy. Just because something hasn't occurred doesn't mean it won't. Extinction has happened to many species, and just because ours has proliferated to such a high degree doesn't mean we can't go extinct.

 

[light2x]

This is a fallacy. Just because something hasn't occurred doesn't mean it won't. Extinction has happened to many species, and just because ours has proliferated to such a high degree doesn't mean we can't go extinct.

Sure, just add yours to the list.

 

[Blade2.0]

Sure, just add yours to the list.

And the dinosaurs could never have gone extinct either.

 

[IDKFA]

First post best post. I had much lower expectations for the average IQ of this forum.

Anyone who thinks humanity is going to be wiped out any time soon outside of an inadvertent apocalyptic event like an impact event is fooling themselves.

List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Humans are here to stay, whether we like it or not.

I might be misinterpreting your post, but you believe outside a natural event, it's not possible for humanity to wiped out any time soon. Your evidence for this is a Wikipedia article. An article that where 95% of the list are biblical or vauge, unscientific guesswork.

Would you not agree that nuclear weapons or the singularity for example pose a threat to humanity? Their risk might be very low, but a risk nonetheless.

 

[DavidGzz]

Nah, way past our lifetimes. Everyone is so dramatic about the now.

 

[Mihos]

Green tech == save yourself to a profit.

 

[light2x]

And the dinosaurs could never have gone extinct either.

Since we're comparing ourselves to dinosaurs, let's also bring up the fact that they existed for a 165 million years, we haven't been here for a fraction of that time. If you want me to believe we're the brink of extinction you'll need to provide better evidence than simply fear mongering about the next inevitable technological evolution or another looming war, global or otherwise. We've been waging wars since the dawn of civilization and possibly even before that.

What currently suggests we are even remotely close to being extinct outside of people simply being too depressed or emotional about the current state of our world? Which in reality is way better than it's been at any point in history.

 

[Blade2.0]

Since we're comparing ourselves to dinosaurs, let's also bring up the fact that they existed for a 165 million years, we haven't been here for a fraction of that time. If you want me to believe we're the brink of extinction you'll need to provide better evidence than simply fear mongering about the next inevitable technological evolution or another looming war, global or otherwise. We've been waging wars since the dawn of civilization and possibly even before that.

What currently suggests we are even remotely close to being extinct outside of people simply being too depressed or emotional about the current state of our world? Which in reality is way better than it's been at any point in history.

they weren't actively looking for their own demise, either. We have a bad habit of looking for and causing trouble. And also not believing the consequences can happen to us.

 

[light2x]

they weren't actively looking for their own demise, either. We have a bad habit of looking for and causing trouble. And also not believing the consequences can happen to us.

Since I didn't get my answer, I'll repeat my question again: What currently suggests we are even remotely close to being extinct?

 

[FunkMiller]

Since I didn't get my answer, I'll repeat my question again: What currently suggests we are even remotely close to being extinct?

If you mean in our lifetimes... zero. Absolutely no chance, barring nuclear armageddon, an asteroid strike, or another catastrophe born from the stars.

But there's a lot a room between 'okay' and 'extinct'. I'd rather we stayed closer to okay, personally. That means tackling some very real and credible threats to our current comfortable way of life.

 

[Blade2.0]

Since I didn't get my answer, I'll repeat my question again: What currently suggests we are even remotely close to being extinct?

climate change might not take us out in our lifetimes, but the longer we don't give a shit about it, the worse it will be for us.

 

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[efyu_lemonardo]

But there's a lot a room between 'okay' and 'extinct'.

This should be the actual focus of discussions of this sort.
Just because things could get really bad, doesn't mean it's the end.

But most people have almost no idea what really bad actually means. It means a world possibly unlike anything we've become accustomed to in modern times. We take abundant food and water for granted. We take near-free electric power and heating for granted. We take basic health services for granted and we take civil order and free markets for granted.

Some or even all of these things could potentially go away in our lifetime unless we prepare better for environmental changes that are coming

Talk to people who have lived through communism and other forms of oppression and scarcity. Their experience could be valuable.

 

[Guileless]

What will the far-future anthropologists sifting through the detritus of our civilization make of this?

 

[RJMacready73]

Bar a Dino wiping size Asteroid, we ain't going nowhere, the planets too big and humans are too numerous and even if the Asteroid that wiped out the Dino's did hit us humanity would still survive albeit in smaller underground settlements, we're a resourceful bunch o cunts and as movies have taught me, it'll be the yanks will take the brunt of the Asteroid/Super Volcano/Kaiju/Alien Invasion, the rest of us will just have to get on with it

 

[Grildon Tundy]

So, uh, is anyone else concerned about the escalation happening in Russia/Ukraine?

Biden authorizes use of US missile system in Ukraine. Ukraine (for the first time) fires US-supplied longer-range missiles at a target inside Russian territory.

Then this happened (I could do without the WW3 is here comment, but this is still concerning):

 

[Kraz]

Earth Has Tilted 31.5 Inches. That Shouldn't Happen.

Can we fix it back?

www.popularmechanics.com

wonder if it is substantial enough to cause confluences with established ocean and air currents over thousands of kilometers with the sudden geo shift. Adding to instabilities in weather.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

^I'm sure once the US Army Corps of Engineers figures out how to redeploy Lizzo to India this tilt will get sorted.

 

[Kraz]

^I'm sure once the US Army Corps of Engineers figures out how to redeploy Lizzo to India this tilt will get sorted.

It's going to take more than meme understanding, though that may contribute to not making it.

 

[Polygonal_Sprite]

Maybe I’m wrong but doesn’t the term “The Singularity“ mean that much like a black hole we simply don’t know what will happen at a certain point ? It’s not about AI reaching a specific stage of advancement.

Saying that outside of Nuclear War then AI.