TrueLegend
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They named it wrong , they should have named it Until Dawn Horizon 285K Something cuz that's how shit be selling these days.
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Nah, toxic positivity.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
- Original came out just 9 years ago
- Remake looks fine but isn't some gargantuan leap over the original's visuals
- Original was already a bit of a niche title despite selling pretty well
- Remake got bad reviews, sitting at a 69 review average
- Remake is known to have poor performance and bugs
- Remake came out at the same time as a much better reviewed and much more highly anticipated remake in Silent Hill 2
- Remake was priced at $59.99
Like is anyone fucking surprised? What the hell was Sony thinking? It would've been a MUCH smarter idea to just remaster the original for PS5 and release it on PC for $39.99 or something. Would've sold just as well if not more at a fraction of the investment.
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diffusionx
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bomba after bomba is a sign the decision making process at this company is broken, which shouldn't be surprising to anyone following it.
I don't think this was necessarily cheap to make and it was released to give a boost to the upcoming movie, I doubt the people working on that are happy right now.
Angry_Megalodon
Banned
dragonyeuw
Member
Sticking with the PS4 release, thanks.
yurinka
Member
What I want is a $10 upgrade for those who like me bougth the original this last generation. I loved it in PS4 and would like to play the enhaced version again, but not at the current price. For $10, maybe $19 I'd get it.
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nial
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You know Astro Bot was released inbetween, right?
Plus, bomba after bomba was even more of a thing in the past, and I didn't see anyone claiming the company was broken back then. Oh wait, I did, and it was as ridiculous as it is today, the same way I see posts from 2008 claiming that Sony focuses too much on hardware and that PSP had no games.
Bolded, this is not as strong of a point you think it is, and it mostly supports the idea of it being a cheap and quick project to be ready in time for the movie. Don't you remember Ratchet and Clank on PS4? It was very, VERY cheap and rushed to the market as well.
llLeonhart
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They should probably make the Pro come without plates out of the box too.
//DEVIL//
Member
This is music to my ears to be honest.
More flops . Sony will either get their shit together or they keep bleeding money.
Not a single person asked for this. Not even die hard fans. Or the remastered horizon fat ho.
They keep pushing to milk more money from gamers in this cheap way and gamers are noticing and fighting back with their wallet.
Whoever greenlit these projects needs to be fired. No questions about it.
Don’t come online on twitter like that Ubisoft queer and blame gamers for poor sales. Blame yourself for shitty project
These idiots forgot the most important thing, they want our money. Our money leave our pockets when you create something that we want. Not the other way around.
More flops . Sony will either get their shit together or they keep bleeding money.
Not a single person asked for this. Not even die hard fans. Or the remastered horizon fat ho.
They keep pushing to milk more money from gamers in this cheap way and gamers are noticing and fighting back with their wallet.
Whoever greenlit these projects needs to be fired. No questions about it.
Don’t come online on twitter like that Ubisoft queer and blame gamers for poor sales. Blame yourself for shitty project
These idiots forgot the most important thing, they want our money. Our money leave our pockets when you create something that we want. Not the other way around.
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Saber
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A random tuesday for him.
"Its not about the money, its about sending Horizon Zero Dawn message/remake/remaster/toys/movies/series/family games."
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llLeonhart
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yurinka
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Yep, players trackers are normally crap to estimate sales particularly in early days or when based on trophies. The only early reliable data for sales is the sales/top grossing ranking of each store, which in case of Sony shows the top 10 grossing games in each PSN store.
But that only helps to know if the specific game managed to be a top seller game, so isn't useful for niche games.
Their numbers reveal this is the top grossing PlayStation generation and that they are having now more profits than in all the previous generations combined.
Their strategy is very successful and doesn't imply that all their releases must be supersellers at launch. Some stuff is just to cover a niche or a catalog spot in the mid/long term and just a part in a bigger puzzle (as could be here to build their PC catalog and to have the previous game fresh for when they release the movie or announce the sequel).
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James Sawyer Ford
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I’ve never played until dawn…should I just wait for sale + patch for 60 fps?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's not just 30 fps, it's a very bad 30fps. Lots of drops.
Very poor effort considering it's not even using any of the Lumen tech.
Just get the original, it's $10 or less on plenty of retailers, runs at a flawless 60fps.
The only reason I'm playing it right now is cause of an active gamefly sub, I would never pay money, especially full retail, for this.
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
May do that if the new game doesn’t get patched. No rush to play it
This project is very odd
Ceadeus
Member
I'll look at what else is in that list. Are you buying the game?
Roufianos
Member
Such a pathetic release on so many fronts. I get why Sony remastered PS3 games, since the popularity of PS4 brought a new audience, but do they really think there's some big audience on PS5 that missed this first time around?
I've played the game twice and have no desire to go back to it. I know there's choices but it's a story heavy game, there's nothing that a remake is going to enhance on the game play front.
Not to mention that it's full price and doesn't improve on the original.
Could have had Bloodborne, Socom, Resistence or Killzone instead.
I've played the game twice and have no desire to go back to it. I know there's choices but it's a story heavy game, there's nothing that a remake is going to enhance on the game play front.
Not to mention that it's full price and doesn't improve on the original.
Could have had Bloodborne, Socom, Resistence or Killzone instead.
tommib
Gold Member
Bloodborne Remaster. Killzone 2 Remaster. Ridge Racer 7 Remaster. King’s Field 4 Remaster. What the fuck are they waiting for?
Unknown?
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Doubt it cost much, the engine and source material were already done.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
...because it is not needed. The PS4 version plays fine and looks great on PS5. Quit with this shit Sony!
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
...or how about new IP's? Enough with the remasters!!
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Good. Show the world we don’t need remasters of recent games, especially prices more than $20.
yurinka
Member
I got it in PS4. I won't pay the current price, I would have jumped day one if a $10 upgrade would have been available.
I'll wait until it's $20 or less, or included in PS+.
Half of their games under development are new IPs. In recent months they released Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade or the first big Astro for flat tvs, plus the tanked Concord.
There is no big publisher who bets more on new IP than Sony, and only Ubisoft comes relatively close.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
That 2388 for Concord was during the free open beta as well. Its peak after the $40 release was just under 700.
So Until Dawn reached about 4 Concords. Still a flop but not a Concord level flop.
Msamy
Member
Fuck hirman hulst and his strategy of developing gaas and remasters games
tommib
Gold Member
Absolutely. But if they’re remastering maybe go for what’s not available at a proper quality.
semiconscious
Member
right. 'synergy'. 'a far-sighted investment in the future'. like an friggin' until dawn movie is even gonna be all that big a deal...
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
I think SIE just lend this IP to some random devs aka ballistic moon and told them "just remaster this game, do whatever you like, we need some additional cash"
Ceadeus
Member
A 10 dollars upgrade for previous owner could have been a thing. The price is preventing you from buying it. It'll prevent other owner as well. For non owner, why would they suddenly see this game cover once again after so little years and now be interested? They were not before on PS4.
In my mind, you would put ressources to remaster a game that'll really benefit from the newer gen or it was a very successful game and is promised to sell.
There's just nothing much going for it, also with Silent Hill 2 , the game had no chance at all. I might be missing something though.
ResilientBanana
Member
It's a horror game that is literally monotone. I think we've played this many times before.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
People made fun of TLOU remakes and remasters as well...and then the show happened lol.
Radical_3d
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captainnapalm
Member
As a PC gamer who likes the other Supermassive games, I'm glad this one made it to PC, but I can understand why this is not a good value proposition for people who already played it on PS4.
Honestly it's quite a good remake in many ways - the visuals can be stunning, and the presentation is very slick. They actually put some effort into the menus and UI and stuff, which is rare for modern games.
Honestly it's quite a good remake in many ways - the visuals can be stunning, and the presentation is very slick. They actually put some effort into the menus and UI and stuff, which is rare for modern games.
Pejo
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I'm not buying a remaster for 60 bucks on PC (I own but never played the PS4 version), but I'm definitely interested when it hits $25~. I heard the performance is rough and they made some of the character(s)? less morally grey, which hurt the narrative a bit. I haven't personally experienced either of those things though, so it's just just what I heard.
I think Steam in general is pretty mad about the forced PSN sign in thing.
I think Steam in general is pretty mad about the forced PSN sign in thing.
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