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[FunkMiller]

Why are y'all ignoring all the examples of actual nazi garbage and acting like it's all just screenshots of videogames?

Because the ADL was nasty to Elon once, and any nuance in any public debate is now completely impossible? They are (now) ideologically captured by the far-left, but to dismiss every single claim of genuine anti-semitism due to this, is about as 2024 as you can get.

 

[8BiTw0LF]

Reminds me of the "blackhats" in the early 10's. Extreme trolling that changed the internet culture forever. Back then if you weren't a complete nihilist on 4chan, you were a softie and got bullied.

Sounds like Steam is a much calmer place lol

 

[KyoZz]

Because the ADL was nasty to Elon once, and any nuance in any public debate is now completely impossible? They are (now) ideologically captured by the far-left, but to dismiss every single claim of genuine anti-semitism due to this, is about as 2024 as you can get.

Or maybe it's because the ADL acts like 60% of Steam users are racist when in fact their report is about 1% of the average number of people online on Steam (not even compared to the total accounts on Steam, just going by online people). And yet they act like it's the worst platform ever created.

 

[Sophist]

People are failing to see that a part of the far right (neo nazi) and a part of the far left (anti Israel) are now aligned when it come to spreading hate against the Jews. It's the horseshoe theory. -chan, Twitter, Era, reddit, steam, ... antisemitism is growing whatever side the user base is leaning to.

 

[FunkMiller]

Or maybe it's because the ADL acts like 60% of Steam users are racist when in fact their report is about 1% of the average number of people online on Steam (not even compared to the total accounts on Steam, just going by online people). And yet they act like it's the worst platform ever created.

Ah, well. That's clearly not the case all the time Reddit exists.

 

[FunkMiller]

People are failing to see that a part of the far right (neo nazi) and a part of the far left (anti Israel) are now aligned when it come to spreading hate against the Jews. It's the horseshoe theory. -chan, Twitter, Era, reddit, steam, ... antisemitism is growing whatever side the user base is leaning to.

Yep. Been getting increasingly worse for many years now.

As I always say, things will only truly improve when the far right and far left are put back in their dumb, bigoted, shitheel little boxes.

 

[Slimboy Fat]

It's all me on my different accounts I assure you

 

[cartman414]

People are failing to see that a part of the far right (neo nazi) and a part of the far left (anti Israel) are now aligned when it come to spreading hate against the Jews. It's the horseshoe theory. -chan, Twitter, Era, reddit, steam, ... antisemitism is growing whatever side the user base is leaning to.

Here's a funny thing: the anti-semites on the right include many hardcore Zionists.

Also, not that I'm trying to reduce the argument, but the anti-semitism thing is sometimes used as a smokescreen to discriminate against other minorities (see: Destiny). I agree that there are parts of the left that are plainly anti-semitic, but there are people who are the reverse for whatever reason. Neither are appealing.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

A triskelion is a hate symbol? I’ve seen hippy looking couples selling crafts with triskelion on them as an ancient symbol of good luck or whatever at weekend markets.

 

[Sophist]

Senator Mark R. Warner (D-VA) wrote a letter to Gabe Newell

Warner Presses Valve to Crack Down on Hateful Accounts and Rhetoric Proliferating on Steam

WASHINGTON – U.S. Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-VA) today urged leadership at Valve, a prominent video game company, to respond to reports that their gaming distribution and social networking platform, Steam, is hosting extremist and hateful content – including over 1.5 million users and tens of...

www.warner.senate.gov

 

[Hrk69]

 

[TintoConCasera]

PC bros?

 

[EviLore]

The pepe stuff is silly since it is widely used by gamers in a non-hateful way, but swastikas should be an easy cut-and-dry case to address.

 

[Shadowstar39]

For people who have never seen the Steam's off-topic forum, it's here:

Off Topic

steamcommunity.com

What's the problem? Seems tame.

I see insane things from one side of the major echo chamber that is reddit. Where is the calls about their hate speech, oh right it's not really about that its about people disagreeing with them. I do not like any politician or forum that pushes "hard moderation" ie censorship. Especially enforced by government or by an extreme biased "moderation team" as I have seen it first hand grow out of control and an echo chamber form.

Recent example: I just got banned from r/law on reddit. Why? Because the mod didn't like my opinion. I called out the sub for not being about law , but only politics and not the subject at hand. just a hate group against their political rivals. and I said Tulsi was gorgeous to someone who mentioned her. I asked why I was banned and got "for being a moron and a racist/sexist". Just because I called someone pretty and questioned why the law forum was not actually about law.
It would be like a neogaf being about something other than games, yet it is a games discussion group.
The mod then went and muted me for 28 days so I couldn't respond back. If these people had power out of forums we would all be under the boot. It's crazy.

Reddit reminds me of what this site was like from 2013 or so to 2018. And what resetera is like now. Full of censors and overly offended people that instead of hearing someone else's opinion, they call you names and want you deplatformed/banned. I don't want steam turning into that. I love that we can actually have discussions and see user reviews not just curated mainstream reviews.


Steam forums are free speech. Steam forums have game specific forums and groups. Something epic didn't do with their store and it is shit because of it. People need to give feedback and discuss. New ideas and tips and software help for games are all over places like steam, gog, and older game specific forums. Reddit has it too for particular titles, but their mainstream popular subs are all one sided circle jerk politics and it's horrible.

Granted legit bullying, etc, sure, I get that, but there is a fine line with the whole "problematic thing". I think neogaf does it right today, I'm sure steam has some rules in place too.

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

I thought Valve let the publisher/devs moderate their own game-specific forums on Steam?

 

[Kataploom]

This is completely true, I was once there asking for love and someone told me "Get out of this place, we hate you!", then I never came back. I cried all day out of pain.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Absolutely nothing of value would be lost by closing the Steam community pages.

Nah, it’s been a great source if you run into an issue with an older game.

 

[Corian33]

While I have no doubt there are tons of racists and such on Steam, I do have to wonder how many of these “objects” found are just connected to Hearts of Iron IV nerds.

 

[Hrk69]

Spoiler

HuggingButTheresAnEarthquake

 

[digitaltrance]

Can't talk about the Jews, but can every other group. Not right.

 

[JCK75]

I agree that the Steam forums have become a joke lately. It's impossible to have a normal conversation there specially new releases

People tend to praise Steam as if it was a holly place but this company has failed hard when it comes to control their forums

You might find the Epic Games forums more your speed.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Senator Mark R. Warner (D-VA) wrote a letter to Gabe Newell

Warner Presses Valve to Crack Down on Hateful Accounts and Rhetoric Proliferating on Steam

WASHINGTON – U.S. Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-VA) today urged leadership at Valve, a prominent video game company, to respond to reports that their gaming distribution and social networking platform, Steam, is hosting extremist and hateful content – including over 1.5 million users and tens of...

www.warner.senate.gov

Wow what a coincidence

 

[mayham2199]

Have people read the article? It’s filled with Nazi imagery in Steam. FILLED. It’s actually insane. I had no idea it was this bad. What a shitshow for a much beloved platform. Can’t people just use Twitter for this shit like everyone else is doing these days? It’s a fucking gaming platform.

Repulsive shit.

Crazy because in my years of using Steam I never saw it. I always vising the community section as well. So maybe it is filled with this stuff but I think the amount is very little compared to the overall content on the board because I never once saw it yet you're claiming it's filled with it in the report.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

They're going to turn Gabe into a Republican soon at the rate they are going

Also they only have 2 months to try and get Gabe before they lose all power and I don't think they can prosecute him for imaginary crimes that quickly

 

[StereoVsn]

Nah, it’s been a great source if you run into an issue with an older game.

Yep, let’s not throw out the baby with the bath water.

There can be forums that are lightly moderated and just ban nazi, terrorist, CSM related crap and so on. 99.9% of posts and posters are alright.

 

[StereoVsn]

Can't talk about the Jews, but can every other group. Not right.

People shouldn’t be spreading hate in public forums about any particular group. In this case it’s obvious Nazi bullshit.

And why do you want to “talk” about “the Jews”?

 

[Themacabre]

Isn't a forum just a textbox that is connected to the internet that people can type words into?
How is there any surprise at all that you can find content of any and every description if you look for it specifically. There's no need for additional moderation beyond what they are doing already, just scroll on by.

 

[ProtoByte]

Wow what a coincidence

For teens is one thing. Young (presumably legally as) adults? Wtf?

Of course this comes from Washington. They've concluded that GabeN isn't spending enough of his cash on lobbyists.