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[Rumor] Wonder Woman Game to be Live Service Hints Job Ads as WB Vows to Double Down on GaaS
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crackajack
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GoTG might not have been a huge success, maybe due to Avengers, but at least people for the most part have rather more positive things to say than bad and probably would have welcomed another similar stab, while Avengers, while not entirely terrible for most people, mostly the main story was not trash, but everything afterwards was just repetitive and also lacking high level content. So entirely unsuited for long term success.
Why not start with a regular SP game, build a regular limited MP on top of it and expand into GaaS if it happens naturally? GaaS for Avengers was at least on paper a much better idea than for Suicide Squad which is an assemble of niche characters anyway or a single (?) character like WW.
Make good games for Batman, WW, Aquaman, Cyborg and then when that is done migrate it into one giant Justice League game? Did WB learn anything from Marvel and their own somewhat rushed DC universe movies. What superhero games were really successfull the last years? Spiderman! anything else? Or look to their own success: Hogwarts was praised and sold well.
Gaas has certainly a place in gaming, but way too many try it without letting it cook long enough and or lack of talent creating a loop that keeps people attached.
Why not start with a regular SP game, build a regular limited MP on top of it and expand into GaaS if it happens naturally? GaaS for Avengers was at least on paper a much better idea than for Suicide Squad which is an assemble of niche characters anyway or a single (?) character like WW.
Make good games for Batman, WW, Aquaman, Cyborg and then when that is done migrate it into one giant Justice League game? Did WB learn anything from Marvel and their own somewhat rushed DC universe movies. What superhero games were really successfull the last years? Spiderman! anything else? Or look to their own success: Hogwarts was praised and sold well.
Gaas has certainly a place in gaming, but way too many try it without letting it cook long enough and or lack of talent creating a loop that keeps people attached.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
They will never learn. And the thing that I hate is they will then blame gamers and the overall video game Market for their future failures.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Elaborate
Most gamers don't realize that Splinter Cell Double Agent isn't where the series went off track. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory is where the series went off track.
WB has a rich pedigree of making successful single player games. If they're looking at the road ahead and saying "It's time to swerve!" then they see something in the model that dangerous.
There's a lot of gamers that let their preferences of certain game types cloud their strategic thinking.
arkhamguy123
Member
Counter: Could it be that they’re just stupid old crusty out of touch greedy executives chasing money and adhering the charts and trends?
Last Hearth
Member
Lingerie costumes MTX at $10 a pop, I bet it would sell like gangbusters. But I doubt they'd do it.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Absolutely.
This could be a terrible decision on WBs fault.
But you have to weigh that potential against the potential of gamers not knowing anything that's going on.
I tend to side with the most successful companies in the industry, who have binders of data, over gamers whose thinking isn't much more advanced than "I like this so they should make this."
Gamers don't have a great reputation.
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JPSLotus97T
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Should be great when WB's future sales crater because no one wants to play this stupid GAAS shit.
All these companies think they're going to rake in tons of money on this stuff but they don't seem to get there's a finite slice of the pie to be had.
All these companies think they're going to rake in tons of money on this stuff but they don't seem to get there's a finite slice of the pie to be had.
balls of snow
Member
Yeah and then you look at Yakuza 8 spoiling us with quality content. Even if Im not playing the game any time soon, they get my money day 1. Whereas Suicide Squad and this Wonder Woman wont see a dime. Shame.
MirageMew2
Member
Wonder Woman and her famous supporting cast, Wonder Woman with a gun, Wonder Woman with a Bow, Wonder Woman with a Spear.
Revolutionary
Member
I feel bad for Monolith. WB execs forced them to include monetization in Shadow of War with disastrous results... and a few years later it's happening again.
wvnative
Member
on 2nd thought my mind has changed about this whole live service thing...
lughnasadh123
Member
Stink: Gotham Knights
Stank: Suicide Squad
Stunk: Wonder Woman?
Let's complete the trilogy.
Stank: Suicide Squad
Stunk: Wonder Woman?
Let's complete the trilogy.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Why? If this is legitimate, looks like I’m skipping it then. Live service is truly ruining everything.
BbMajor7th
Member
Can't think of a more dead-on-arrival game pitch I've come across in recent years.
Kagoshima_Luke
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BoxFresh123
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Coming soon: Layoffs at WB Game Studios
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arkhamguy123
Member
If we’re lucky Sony
You’d have a metric ton of black rock pandering woke bullshit but imagine the Batman/Superman/Aquaman/Wonder Woman single player games etc
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MrTroubleMaker
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Katajx
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If they were gonna do something live service I would rather it be something liked DCUO, but maybe at the scale of destiny. For their DC content atleast.
Maybe some 4 person teams, and then some social hubs. I think one of the large issues would be generating meaningful, replayable content. So multiplayer sounds good.
The team behind my vision would probably be massive and unfeasible.
The idea of grouping together with some friends and playing through something like a comic storyline every so often with in-game rewards and inevitable MTX sounds appealing though.
I do sort of miss what seems like a simpler time when they would have offered like a story pack where you have some idea of what you are paying for instead of being MTX driven.
Maybe some 4 person teams, and then some social hubs. I think one of the large issues would be generating meaningful, replayable content. So multiplayer sounds good.
The team behind my vision would probably be massive and unfeasible.
The idea of grouping together with some friends and playing through something like a comic storyline every so often with in-game rewards and inevitable MTX sounds appealing though.
I do sort of miss what seems like a simpler time when they would have offered like a story pack where you have some idea of what you are paying for instead of being MTX driven.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
arkhamguy123
Member
Almost a good analogy but not quite. Those are all niche games bro. You average normie isn’t going to buy those. A better example would be god of war, last of us, Spider-Man, horizon etc
Which do sell really well
BossLackey
Gold Member
Who makes these stupid fucking decisions?!
I really don't understand it.
We all know this is going to flop. We KNOW it. So how do they not?
I really don't understand it.
We all know this is going to flop. We KNOW it. So how do they not?
This is what I find so bizarre they’ve banked well in excess of $1bn on hogwartz…and instead of doubling down on that they are going all in on GAAS, which particularly in recent years has been near back to back failure for any big traditionally single player studio attempting, and the vast majority falling flat on their face, sometimes killing the studios in the process.Chances are Hogwarts 2 will be GaaS as well at this juncture.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Barf
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
The argument is always..."Knockout City, Rumbleverse and Hypsercape failed...therefore the Live Service market is saturated."
Just apply that logic to the single player failures and see how silly it sounds.
arkhamguy123
Member
No I think the argument is usually anthem, avengers, Gotham knights etc
big AAA games. What you named would be the equivalent of your first analogy with demon souls and the like
StueyDuck
Member
that's not really an apt comparison and is a fundamental part of what the "as a Service" part of GAAS is all about.
a SP game (physical) can be picked up and played 20 years later if you have all the relative equipment, a MP Live service (or live service in general, as in always online) could be dead 20 years later if game didn't succeed and the servers are shut down.
i'd love to still be playing Warhawk but it's not officially supported in any means anymore, but i can put Resistance 2 in my PS3 and it'll play the campaign.
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Barakov
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Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Hogwarts 2 is going to be a Destiny looter shooter clone ain't it.
WB is dumb as fuck.
WB is dumb as fuck.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
That's a different topic altogether. Some music lovers spend most of their time+money going to concerts. Some music lovers spend most of their time+money buying music.
One isn't innately better than the other.
The issue we're talking about here is WB believing the Live Service market is more lucrative than the other one.
Mister Wolf
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Keep punishing them for their stupidity.
