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[RaduN]

The game not being finished is the real phantom pain

Never felt unfinished for me. Maybe you didn't get all the endings and yellow audio tapes. It wraps up the story quite well.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Quiet was a thought-provoking character that challenged the preconception of what it means to be a soldier...


I'm not so sure hyper-realism was the goal of MGSV...

 

[cortadew]

She's secretly cool as fuck. She was cinematic director on Wanted: Dead, and also released a good 80s style album used on the OST. Unlockables in the game include several episodes of a cooking show she is hosting live that are pretty hilarious. And she just released a single with Giorgio Moroder a few days ago.

How can you be cool and hot at the same time

 

[nikos]

Imagine still going on about this eight years later.

She just can’t keep quiet.

 

[Majormaxxx]

Sex appeal is bad m'kay. But - sex WORK is good. As long as it's done by stronk independent wxmen. So if Quiet was a sex WORKER in mgs, it would have been fine. Silly Kojima, next time consult us here at gaf to avoid being canceled.

 

[TGO]

To be fair military equipment isn't practical either, that's why you need to train with it to reduce the hindrance.
But Quiet wasn't part of any Military with standard issue uniform and equipment so you can't even compare.
A lot of mercenaries don't wear practical clothes either and that's what she was.
Not defending her outfit but you can't control what a woman wears, practical or not

 

[Spukc]

Seems her career in games was also not practical

Also not discussing her being in the game glad they still push stuff like this is 2023

 

[Majormaxxx]

Seems her career in games was also not practical

Why not? It's easy money, compared to other jobs..

 

[rofif]

Then go naked and say Quiet skin was modified like the suit snake had in MGS4. She would have no reasons for close.

Sometimes clothes are more sexy

 

[A.Romero]

Bitching about oversexualization is just as stupid as bitching about undersexualization.

Respect the creator's choices and play what suits your taste. It's not that hard.

 

[Hudo]

Sounds to me like she was cornered by the interviewer so she gave a fluff answer, you can tell she doesn't really care. lol

This is the most likely case. Interviewer wanted to create some bullshit for Twitter and she gave the best non-response response she could.

 

[shamoomoo]

There shouldn't be any controversy. Devs get criticized for making "sexualized characters" while half the bitches on the internet sexualize themselves online either for attention or money.

Those are two different scenarios,what a person does to themselves is different than someone taking liberties fictional game/movie character.

 

[violence]

I’d love to see the RAW interview with the questions IGN was asking her.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Ah yes a "product of the time", I too remember the many eons in the past that was 8 years ago, how did we ever get through such a barbaric era and I'm glad we have since learned that sex is evil

 

[shamoomoo]

Sometimes clothes are more sexy

She wouldn't have to were close,if Quiet skin was like Snake's suit then Quiet can change the color and I believe texture of her skin like an octopus to be less salacious. Hell, give her hair manipulation on top of skin color/texture manipulation.

 

[ManaByte]

Fishing for attention after her game bombed.

 

[Brigandier]

I can remember the purple people going mad about Quiet being on all fours in the chopper when she literally shoves her ass in snakes face

I just found it ridiculous like MGSV's story.

 

[Killer8]

Shame on Stefanie Joosten!

 

[TGO]

I’d love to see the RAW interview with the questions IGN was asking her.

Metal Gear Solid 5's Stefanie Joosten on Playing Quiet, Working With Kojima, AI, and Her New Album - IGN

Metal Gear Solid is one of the most iconic video game franchises of all time, and Stefanie Joosten's Quiet stands as one of the most notable characters within it. Speaking to IGN, Joosten sheds light on her experience working on the final mainline Metal Gear Solid, what it was like working with...

www.ign.com

Quiet's outfit is not practical at all. Even with the explanation that was given of her breathing through her skin, of course there were so many other options you could have gone with. I do agree on that. I got to see the character artwork when we were starting motion capture, and of course my first reaction was, 'that's a very revealing costume', but I respected it and accepted it. So that's basically my stance. It's fantasy, and I find that acceptable as well.

 

[K' Dash]

I can remember the purple people going mad about Quiet being on all fours in the chopper when she literally shoves her ass in snakes face

I just found it ridiculous like MGSV's story.

what MGSV Story?

 

[Roni]

Quiet was fine, another great bait and switch from Kojima.

FYI, when Kojima said people would be ashamed of their words and deeds, he meant the sheer number of results for this simple google search:

Keep Quiet MGSV: 235k entries.

How many other female characters choose (of their own volition) to peace out on the player in an action game?

 

[jonnyXx]

 

[Bkdk]

Practical and healthy for my eyes though.

 

[violence]

It can just be artistic license. The fact that Kojima actually thought of a lore reason for it put a smirk on my face.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I thought her opinion seemed pretty nuanced. But I also have zero problem with sexualization in games, like who cares? Games, movies, etc, are often idealizations of reality, why do the psychos who whine about this shit feel that every media property has to make a statement on modern social issues?

It's okay for shit to be cool, sexy, or weird if that's what the creator wants to do. The only thing that matters is consistency within the rules of the narrative.

My only problem is that she says that she understands the complaints too and connected it to games needing more representation… as if her character clothing made a difference in her sex and/or gender…

 

[DryvBy]

Didn't Joosten pretty much get all her fame from Quiet/Joosten simps? We wouldn't even know her name if Quiet was clothed.

The article seems to lean towards she doesn't care that it was over the top. Her bottom line is just like whatever, next question.

 

[DForce]

Those are two different scenarios,what a person does to themselves is different than someone taking liberties fictional game/movie character.

The main reason why people there's backlash is because some people believe women shouldn't be viewed as sex objects. They believe women should be portrayed differently in games.

The point is that this shouldn't even matter because a lot of women already sexualize themselves on social media. This hurts the portrayal of women more than a video game character like Quiet. Developers should be free to create what they want - as long as it's not downright offensive.

 

[Soodanim]

Another thread where I got part way through and thought "I wonder...was this thread another one of his?"

Sure enough, Draugoth you crafty devil. You played them like a damn fiddle.

 

[elbourreau]

 

[mckmas8808]

Didn't Joosten pretty much get all her fame from Quiet/Joosten simps? We wouldn't even know her name if Quiet was clothed.

Still doesn't mean she's wrong. Of course the outfit wasn't practical.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Then you shouldn't have taken the money for it should you have.

The least useful takes are those that take the payment and stay quiet (haha) while a thing is relevant, and then come out on the other side once their period of giving a shit about its sales is over. It's just a way to put you in the news twice.

 

[jonnyXx]

It can just be artistic license. The fact that Kojima actually thought of a lore reason for it put a smirk on my face.

It is certainly very Kojima to do that.

 

[ahtlas7]

Attractive? Yes. Sexual? Really?

 

[MikeM]

I would agree except this happens to the guys too. Its part of the badass appeal.

 

[NeonGhost]

Never felt unfinished for me. Maybe you didn't get all the endings and yellow audio tapes. It wraps up the story quite well.

Yeah I did

 

[Katajx]

I’d take that outfit over something like her being in a greenhouse enclosure or something. Kojima characters are just kinda out there like that.

 

[TGO]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate Stefanie's stunning green eyes

 

[onnextflix5]

Last I checked porn was still legal, if they are so concerned about sexualisation, maybe ban porn first lol,

 

[peronmls]

I mean I'd have my shirt off if I was in the desert. Is she not allowed to cool off?

 

[Black_Stride]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate Stefanie's stunning green eyes

No way this isnt edited, thats way way too green.
If not then thats absolutely stunning.

 

[semiconscious]

so how many more years before we find out how this guy felt about dressing like this?:

 

[Fatbody]

I wonder if she’s aware that if the people who complained about her outfit had their way, not only would they cover her up, but they’d likely tack on 30 pounds and 15 years as well. And maybe even give her the T-800 endoskull face for good measure.

 

[violence]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate Stefanie's stunning green eyes

She looks like a photoshop. She must make the crazy cat lady's jealous.

so how many more years before we find out how this guy felt about dressing like this?:

What is the ridiculous lore reason for making polygons looks like this. This is poor treatment of all men polygons.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Beautiful women aren’t allowed in games these days. You’ve got to be overweight, ugly, and have half your head shaved to match to developers.

 

[Drizzlehell]

Finally someone speaking straight truth (because these movies were not).

 

[Kiya's Guard]

 

[AtomicStarving]

I tho women should wear whatever the fuck they want, outside Middle East at least

 

[cortadew]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate Stefanie's stunning green eyes

She is an absolute babe

 

[Physiognomonics]

Please someone rewinds me the whole (probably absurd) argument to explain to me how simple clothes can prevent air from passing through? Normal skin already does breathe perfectly well through normal clothes.

 

[violence]

Please someone rewinds me the whole (probably absurd) argument to explain to me how simple clothes can prevent air from passing through? Normal skin already does breathe perfectly well through normal clothes.