aliadiere25
Member
Absolutely terrible timing. If they're going to raise the prices by so much, they best start putting a lot better games on there. The last 3 or 4 months haven't been so good.
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PlayStation Plus is increasing its pricing globally starting September 6th
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jezhumphrey75
Banned
hahahhahaha...meanwhile xbox give me gamepass for free via points.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Yo, stop the fucking meatriding.
Maybe basic services like online play and cloud saves shouldn't cost ANY money? when people already pay monthly for internet? I don't give a shit if Xbox did it first or whatever, it's still a SHIT practice.
Banjo64
cumsessed
If you consider your own time as free I suppose.
xrnzaaas
Member
Maybe their policy has changed when they changed the cloud size, dunno. I definitely remember reading about losing saves after several months of not having the sub. Was your account also inactive during that time (meaning no logins from any device including PC/phone browser)?
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jezhumphrey75
Banned
sitting eating my lunch getting free gamepass )
King Dazzar
Member
My understanding is that this is now doable. Or at least I believe I've been backing up my save files of PS5 games for quite some time now when doing my USB backups.
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CloudShiner
Member
Mr Opportunity Cost begs to differ.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Doesn’t really address what I said. If you consider spending your free time whilst eating your lunch ‘free’ then that’s fine.
Giallo Corsa
Member
Hey Xmz, I must have logged once or twice into my PSN account from my PC during the 3 year span that I didn't have a PlayStation.
Don't know if that has anything to do with it but yeah, my PS4 cloud saves were - again - intact.
Cheers
unlurkified
Member
I really hope there ends up being a critical mass of backlash that causes them to walk it back like MS had to when they tried to raise XBL Gold to $120 several times. I doubt it though because Sony’s leading by a lot.
Well yeah, it turned out there was a giant vocal minority that said they were going to cancel. When in reality that number was very small relatively to their overall subscriptions.
Not really sure what point your trying to make?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why? You don't need PS Plus to play on the PS5.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Knowledge of business costs and communication of those things to the unaware is not meatriding.
Based on what? You must think it doesn't cost any money to provide those things.
Maybe gas shouldn't cost anything because people already pay for cars.
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
Lmao "free" games you have to pay for and lose immediately when you don't pay. Not to mention the free games were so useless they needed to bar people from playing online to get enough to subscribe
Gambit2483
Member
I've honestly been thinking more and more about going PC
Lupin25
Member
I doubt the essential tier will see a massive decrease with it required to access online servers.
However, Sony will certainly have to justify this “late-game change” in a future presentation with a vastly better offering for the higher tiers. Especially for PS2/PS1 titles because the premium tier is highway robbery at this point. It can’t just be about inflation or better cloud computing & architecture.
Maybe Sony’s ulterior motive is to destroy the subscription game
, because at the moment… subs have seemingly capped out and that residual gain has plateaued since the end of the pandemic.
It seems for Sony and subscriptions, It’s all about added revenue now and purging consumers for the most they can squeeze out of them.
However, Sony will certainly have to justify this “late-game change” in a future presentation with a vastly better offering for the higher tiers. Especially for PS2/PS1 titles because the premium tier is highway robbery at this point. It can’t just be about inflation or better cloud computing & architecture.
Maybe Sony’s ulterior motive is to destroy the subscription game
, because at the moment… subs have seemingly capped out and that residual gain has plateaued since the end of the pandemic. It seems for Sony and subscriptions, It’s all about added revenue now and purging consumers for the most they can squeeze out of them.
It sucks for the price increase but people will go on like they went on for many other price increases.
I think that Sony has understood that subscriptions have plateaued. With costs rising and little growth opportunities past 50m this is the result.
It will be interesting to see if this will have a positive impact on the quality of games and future features like PS5 streaming in 4k.
I think that Sony has understood that subscriptions have plateaued. With costs rising and little growth opportunities past 50m this is the result.
It will be interesting to see if this will have a positive impact on the quality of games and future features like PS5 streaming in 4k.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
based on Steam, which has far more online infrastructure than all 3 consoles combined. and yet online play is free because it doesnt cost valve money for EA to host their servers. cloud saves dont cost money because the cost of hosting some 129kb txt files on a server is negligible.
NickFire
Member
You do for non-F2P multiplayer though. And cloud saves when you have multi-consoles.
No way to sugar coat this one. Sony is acting like a bag of dicks in the summer heat.
Orbital2060
Member
With a 7 day notice. Oof.
They could have given their customers a 30 day heads-up at least.
They could have given their customers a 30 day heads-up at least.
Iced Arcade
Member
auto renewal should be illegal. most companies rely on people not realizing subs are on auto renewal.
Gambit2483
Member
But that's their bread-n-butter, i.e. the schmucks who pay every month without using the service or even remembering they are in fact subscribed
TheGodfather07
Member
Forgetting? Sure, but not realising is on them because they tell you about auto renewal when you subscribe. I turn it off straight away.
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OuterLimits
Member
Oh wow. I didn't realize USB saves aren't possible on PS5?(i only have PS4 Pro currently ). Damn.
Del_X
Member
What's that? Arguing on NeoGAF?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
PS5 cant do USB saves? Weird. You could do USB saves even on 360 way back.
The system must have an architecture issue. Or my memory faintly remembers something about not allowing it to prevent hackers from uploading mods and such. who knows.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
You do if you want to play online with friends.
GutsOfThor
Member
Cancelled my essential subscription last night. I don't play multiplayer games at all and the free monthly games have been shit for as long as I can remember.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
omg it really is happening, isn't it? Sony going all in on Gaas games like Horizon Online, so raising the price of a required subscription was inevitable.
dotnotbot
Member
You could argue they aren't worth the price but I feel like saying they were shit recently is dishonest, some games I added to my library in the last months:
- Alan Wake Remastered
- Sackboy
- Dreams
- Death's Door
- Mafia Definitive Ed
- Star War Jedi Fallen Order
- Mass Effect Legendary Ed (December 22)
- COD Cold War
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
You could argue they aren't worth the price but I feel like saying they were shit recently is dishonest, some games I added to my library in the last months:
- Alan Wake Remastered
- Sackboy
- Dreams
- Death's Door
- Mafia Definitive Ed
- Star War Jedi Fallen Order
- Mass Effect Legendary Ed (December 22)
- COD Cold War
I think the problem is there’s a lot of overlap with GamePass and the latter is a better value with first party games included. PS plus just feels redundant and now overpriced as well
So if one service is going to get cancelled for me, it’s more likely to be PS Plus
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Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Cancelled my membership in part because I realized I barely use online shit anyway on my PS5 except for Destiny... which is F2P anyway.
Fuck off, Sony.
Fuck off, Sony.
Trogdor1123
Member
Does that include all of the new expansions too (it bring f2p online, not the actual games)? If so, that’s even easier to decide
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The fee boost isn’t targeted to you. It’s aimed at MP gamers who will pay anything and aren’t the types to go PC free online gaming.
Sony has around 10 GAAS games coming and probably some of them will be F2P too. And by the sounds of it they will come to PC too.
So the fee increase is to support the server load and get extra revenue from the MP crowd who will be tempted to stick around for the new GAAS games.
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
omg it really is happening, isn't it? Sony going all in on Gaas games like Horizon Online, so raising the price of a required subscription was inevitable.
Yah its really happening
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I think Sony will get to where their first party ip is included day one but they are doing the intelligent way of making it happen.
Keep increase prices until their users demand they add first party games. Then when they do it, it feels like they made the decision.
Psychology is a crazy thing.
Don't ever tell a consumer your doing something...make them feel like they got there on their own.
Keep increase prices until their users demand they add first party games. Then when they do it, it feels like they made the decision.
Psychology is a crazy thing.
Don't ever tell a consumer your doing something...make them feel like they got there on their own.
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systemr123
Banned
Sounds like that but don’t forget that when everyone gets 15% salary raises because of battling the inflation now, the prices of goods must go up with them.
Eimran
Member
When did this happen? Or do you mean the Xbox one reveal controversy with the always online and no sharing policy?
TrueGrime
Member
MS tried to raise the price of gold.
SSfox
Member
You need PS plus to play any game online. All the fighting games like SF6 and upcoming MK1 and T8, the upcoming Monster Hunter (can you imagine play play MH full offline? Lmao rofl), GTA6 will release with online mode that you can't try as well, you can't play Coop PVP in next Fromsoftware games also on PS5, but it will be free on PC, and so on. Not having online access on all those games and others it's literally like having access to some an not full portion of a game you bought at full price, how can anyone can defend this?
You don't have to pay anything on PC beside the game price, in PS5 you have to buy the game and the 80$ minimum price just to play online
If you already have a good PC there is no reason to buy a PS5 at this point, except the full Solo games like FF16
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