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Nexus Mods removes anti-gay Baldur's Gate 3 mod (Update: Nexus are too far lost in their sauce)

Pejo

Gold Member
Because again, this modder is a bigot that also makes racist mods.
So was it racist when Disney made Snow White a brown girl? Or is that ok in that direction. Should we have all modders run their stuff by you to make sure it's not racist towards the wrong people?

To be clear, I get what you're saying, and you'll probably find plenty of allies that agree that it's racist, but I don't think making changes like that are inherently evil or bad. Moreover, you shouldn't get to dictate how people want to mod their games as long as it's not having an effect on your experience with the game. But maybe that's just me.

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I just want to clarify, this is under the assumption that the modder caught shit for making a "turn x character white" mod, not if he really went schizo racist with like klansmen hats or something awful. I am unfamiliar with his work, but I see race change mods in the same light as palette swaps from old fighting games that could turn white/asian characters skin brown.
 
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A person enjoying his single player game the way he wants it is not “fragile”, fragile is when the idea that someone might enjoy things you don’t enjoy bothers you this much.
‘Enjoying’ the game by being racist and homophobic? How pathetic, and yes, and it is incredibly ‘fragile’.

Nexus is under no obligation whatsoever to host those mods for this douche if they don’t want to do so.
 

Kagoshima_Luke

Gold Member
But that's the point of what we're saying. Nexus is a one-stop shop when it comes to mods for the large majority of games. I don't want to scour page 538 of a Knitting forum's thread on Hogwarts Legacy for a mod that changes Dumbledore into a orangutan.
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StereoVsn

Gold Member
I’ve been a happy user of Nexus for a very long time but I feel like the time has come for an alternative who doesn’t enforce leftist doctrine
It’s not particularly leftist site. I mean have you seen some of the Skyrim mods, lol?

They just don’t like this particular racist ass. There are plenty of other BG3 mods who change characters all kinds of diff ways.
 

StereoVsn

Gold Member
They removed a mod that let you romance Judy as a male in cyberpunk, while leaving the one that lets you romance Panam as a female.

They're indocrinated alright, they just won't remove the porn and boobs mods because they know their traffic would be cut by half.
I thought I saw Judy mod there. That’s unfortunate.
 
Disappointing response from Nexus, but not unexpected given how they handled the Starfield pronouns mod.

Plus the Non-Newtonian New York Spider-Man Remastered mod.

It's pretty clear that the folks who run the site have a particular agenda. I just miss the halcyon days of the internet when I didn't have to care the political ideology of the site admin, they were just a faceless entity that hosted shit like mods. Now I gotta go to the Liberal site for X mod and the Conservative site for Y mod...get the hell outta here with this garbage.
 

DW74

Member
I think too many folks pay far too much attention to what other folks are doing. If some dude mods his game to play as a gay black midget priest with MS in a wheelchair, or a goose-stepping Nazi, I don't give a rat's ass.

It's not my computer, or my game, or my business.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I dont follow nexus mods.

Does nexus have a history of curating political mods? Or is this BG issue more of one-off intervention?
 
But that's the point of what we're saying. Nexus is a one-stop shop when it comes to mods for the large majority of games. I don't want to scour page 538 of a Knitting forum's thread on Hogwarts Legacy for a mod that changes Dumbledore into an orangutan.
I get it. I guess I’m used to the pre-nexus ways of gaming a search engine to find what I want and I simply didn’t mind this, because I modded a ton of games in my early teens.

I guess if you decide to actively look someday and find what you’re looking for, feel free to share on here. I feel that others wouldn’t mind a secondary source for mods as long as the website is safe.
 
They removed a mod that let you romance Judy as a male in cyberpunk, while leaving the one that lets you romance Panam as a female.

They're indocrinated alright, they just won't remove the porn and boobs mods because they know their traffic would be cut by half.
Question about this: Did this modder also use AI voices as a replacement method for lines?
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
I dont follow nexus mods.

Does nexus have a history of curating political mods? Or is this BG issue more of one-off intervention?




 
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SonGoku

Member
Imagine being this fragile to the point of making a mod like this
I hate these type of comments because it can easily be flipped and just shows bias and gaslighting
"Imagine being this fragile to the point of asking for the removal of a mod like this"

The whole point of the diversity/inclusion in media is allegedly so that people feel "represented and identified". So why does it matter what a niche userbase that mods games to feel "identified and represented" do with their single player game and why does it bother you? judging by the tone of your comment) Video games are a fantasy and escapism medium, people should be able to choose or mod the settings which they find most enjoyable .

Race, gender, sexual orientation, swapping does not incite discrimination, hatred or persecution. With the advent of AI i would hope games would eventually allow for all sorts of customization so people can play in whatever fantasy world setting they find most enjoyable to their identity and tastes. If someone wants to make the whole population gay then more power for him/her and viceversa. It don't bother me in the slightest
 
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Not sure which side is dumber.

The side of universal stupid.

Or the 'newly' hypocritical attempt by diversity and inclusion to genocide and exile everything they disagree with.

Oh boy, what fun.
 
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So was it racist when Disney made Snow White a brown girl? Or is that ok in that direction. Should we have all modders run their stuff by you to make sure it's not racist towards the wrong people?

To be clear, I get what you're saying, and you'll probably find plenty of allies that agree that it's racist, but I don't think making changes like that are inherently evil or bad. Moreover, you shouldn't get to dictate how people want to mod their games as long as it's not having an effect on your experience with the game. But maybe that's just me.

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I just want to clarify, this is under the assumption that the modder caught shit for making a "turn x character white" mod, not if he really went schizo racist with like klansmen hats or something awful. I am unfamiliar with his work, but I see race change mods in the same light as palette swaps from old fighting games that could turn white/asian characters skin brown.
No one is stopping an individual from modding their game. Nexusmods are choosing not to host the mod on their very popular website. It's a simple but critical distinction in every "deplatforming" discussion.

Freedom of speech not freedom of reach and all that jazz.
 
Maybe, it's just me, but how bored must you be to actually spend time creating a mod like this?

It's someone who clearly has too much time on their hands.
 
i understand the point of the mod in which i agree with. it's like making a movie about ancient chinese warriors using white actors. though correct me if i'm wrong, isn't baldur's gate based on d&d and it's world?
 
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Pejo

Gold Member
No one is stopping an individual from modding their game. Nexusmods are choosing not to host the mod on their very popular website. It's a simple but critical distinction in every "deplatforming" discussion.

Freedom of speech not freedom of reach and all that jazz.
Did you mean to reply to me? That's not what my post was about. This is just one of those canned responses that you'd see on the purple place to justify the narrative being on the "right" side. I wasn't arguing that they don't have the right to take it down. Your post is like "well if x = y, then a isn't b!"
 
Did you mean to reply to me? That's not what my post was about. This is just one of those canned responses that you'd see on the purple place to justify the narrative being on the "right" side. I wasn't arguing that they don't have the right to take it down. Your post is like "well if x = y, then a isn't b!"
Yes. Although specifically addressing your line about not dictating what others are modding.

I just wanted to highlight that the mod still exists and if someone wants to install it, it's perfectly doable.
 

Soodanim

Gold Member
Like clockwork.
  1. Make controversial mod
  2. Upload to Nexus under new account because you know it's getting taken down and banned
  3. Nexus takes it down and bans
  4. Site writes article and Nexus provides a statement
  5. Free advertising for the controversial mod that was always hosted elsewhere - goal achieved
If Skyrim's modding community is anything to go by, there is a disproportionately high number of LGBT people on and around that site. It's a very easy bear to poke.
 

Gojiira

Member
Nexus has been going downhill for ages now, scummy practices and censorship. This is just ridiculous tbh, if the mod author wants to make his game less representative thats fine, its your choice not to engage with it. But its funny how Nexus has zero issues with modders making gay content for straight characters or even gender bending male characters into female….
 

Hugare

Member
I hate these type of comments because it can easily be flipped and just shows bias and gaslighting
"Imagine being this fragile to the point of asking for the removal of a mod like this"

The whole point of the diversity/inclusion in media is allegedly so that people feel "represented and identified". So why does it matter what a niche userbase that mods games to feel "identified and represented" do with their single player game and why does it bother you? judging by the tone of your comment) Video games are a fantasy and escapism medium, people should be able to choose or mod the settings which they find most enjoyable .

Race, gender, sexual orientation, swapping does not incite discrimination, hatred or persecution. With the advent of AI i would hope games would eventually allow for all sorts of customization so people can play in whatever fantasy world setting they find most enjoyable to their identity and tastes. If someone wants to make the whole population gay then more power for him/her and viceversa. It don't bother me in the slightest
He made this mod to be a part of the "No Alphabets" pack.

Imagine him making a mod that removed every black person in the game and made it part of a mod pack called "No N*". Would you still have the same opinion? Doesnt that incite discrimination enough?

I wouldnt have a problem with it if it wasnt for the mod pack. There he showed his true colors.
 
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Guilty_AI

Member
Imagine him making a mod that removed every black person in the game and made it part of a mod pack called "No N*". Would you still have the same opinion? Doesnt that incite discrimination enough?
Isn't race swapping something Disney and many other media have been doing for years tho?
 

Hugare

Member
Isn't race swapping something Disney and many other media have been doing for years tho?
Disney isnt putting a tagline in the movies written "No white trash".

As I said before, my problem with it is putting the mod in a "No Alphabets" pack. Its like removing black NPCs and putting it in the "No N*" pack.

You really dont see the problem with it? There's no point in discussing if you dont.
 
Ah yes, the so-called progressively touchy-feely inclusive "good guys", banning anything they disagree with. Sounds about right.

Meanwhile, I'm actually interested in this mod. Nightsong ruined the whole game for me. The wokeness was being kept in check up to that point where the entire end of the second act of their game is given over to this insane mockery of a man with tits. Hey I'm super lesbian, let me smash my girlfriend's disapproving father's face in before I go and scissor her in bed. I'm super lesbian! It was just so unbelievably cringeworthy. The irony being that if the character were a man, hr would never get away with behaving like that. Just shows you how insanely confused and ridiculous woke ideology is.
 
2 arguments in this thread that people seem to not understand. Or seemingly people don't seem to see.

  1. Those thinking that this is a freedom of speech/censorship thing.
  2. Those thinking the mod author is a racist douche person and don't want him platformed.
Both can be right. But they should be argued appropriately and on the same page at least.

If you want to argue that people saying/doing/thinking things you don't like on a certain platform deserves to be deplatformed should kind of keep that same energy across the board at the minimum.

It's also a single player game, it's not as if you are forced to download or even share/talk/etc about it. You know how many insane ass mods on Nexus for Skyrim exist that I simply said....hmmm....noooope. Not for me, moving on...

Like why even waste the time or energy? Ya'll aren't emotionally exhausted all the time championing such ridiculous causes?
 
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Guilty_AI

Member
Disney isnt putting a tagline in the movies written "No white trash".

As I said before, my problem with it is putting the mod in a "No Alphabets" pack. Its like removing black NPCs and putting it in the "No N*" pack.

You really dont see the problem with it? There's no point in discussing if you dont.
So its just the name you have a problem with? You would be 100% perfectly fine with the mod if instead of "No alphabets" was just called "straighter faeron" or some other thing, and you wouldn't be complaining right now?
 
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