It can probably hit that next week if not the week after.
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Media Create Sales: Week 26, 2015 (Jun 22 - Jun 28)
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It can probably hit that next week if not the week after.
A wrong one, apparently.
Are we seriously comparing P4G with P4D here? In what world is P4G a spin-off?
manipulate
Member
Yay, Japan is alive.
So uhh, probably the wrong time to ask this, but any chance Japan gets a Vita successor?
So uhh, probably the wrong time to ask this, but any chance Japan gets a Vita successor?
mrmickfran
Member
But Dancing is a spin-off. A rhythm game spin-off no less
It's pretty impressive how Splatoon established a new baseline for the Wii U over the last few weeks. Especially when everyone was sure that the Wii U would drop off an even deeper cliff this year since it had no Mario Kart and no price cut compared to last year.
Yet here we are - trucking along in first gear, between 10 and 20k reach of last years ytd.
And in two weeks they'll get Yoshi and I think the Captain Toad Amiibo re-release is also not too far off? Maybe it'll even catch up to last years YTD. If Nintendo had steady releases with about two games a month, who knows how the Wii U would sell...
At this pace it'll also take a while for the PS4 to catch up. Japan has to get back into shape and a) release some more Japanese console games and b) buy them.
Yet here we are - trucking along in first gear, between 10 and 20k reach of last years ytd.
And in two weeks they'll get Yoshi and I think the Captain Toad Amiibo re-release is also not too far off? Maybe it'll even catch up to last years YTD. If Nintendo had steady releases with about two games a month, who knows how the Wii U would sell...
At this pace it'll also take a while for the PS4 to catch up. Japan has to get back into shape and a) release some more Japanese console games and b) buy them.
LithiumSpade
Member
On current Wii U sales that would require a 40% attachment rate. I think that might be a little optimistic
I'm gonna go with...772,056 LTD sales. Why not.
For Persona, I don't think the staggering we see in spin-off opening weeks is that surprising when we analyze the individual products.
Mainline Persona is a hybrid life simulator and dungeon crawling RPG.
PersonaQ is a dungeon crawling RPG with lots of dialog. Of the spin-offs, this is the closest to an actual Persona game.
After that we have the fighting game spin-offs and the dancing game spin-off. We see the rhythm game opening in between the first entry and second entries for the fighting game, and below the reigning champion of the genre on the platform (Miku).
Mainline Persona is a hybrid life simulator and dungeon crawling RPG.
PersonaQ is a dungeon crawling RPG with lots of dialog. Of the spin-offs, this is the closest to an actual Persona game.
After that we have the fighting game spin-offs and the dancing game spin-off. We see the rhythm game opening in between the first entry and second entries for the fighting game, and below the reigning champion of the genre on the platform (Miku).
I don't see why not. 350K is nothing to sneeze at.
I'm not sure what Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem opened at, but it's quite possibly the best opening the series by a good margin.
He probably means that Awakening and definitely Fates are taking the franchise in a new direction (waifu face rubbing and other questionable additons). With sales like this, they're going to stick to the direction they've been going since it's doing wonders for them. Rather have that than the series dead though.
Looks like that went over my head. Though I prefer the old direction, I'm completely satisfied with the new direction of the series. Like you said, as long as the series is alive.
Pandora012
Member
God please no.
mrmickfran
Member
The fact that Persona did better than DQ on the Vita no less, is quite impressive.
It had the potential i believe here.^_^
Lol, indeed the crow have been served here.T_T
The budget is highly difference though. Theatrhythm budget must be tons smaller compared to P4 DAN here.
I would said comparison with Miku will be much better here as the gameplay looks much closer too.
Finally, P1 and P2 collab we had been waiting for.^_^
Like someone said I don't think that's really good comparison (I did it for fun anyways) but do you have any source to back that up?
(Because my personal opinion is other way around).
Edit: Not questioning your estimate, just asking (my guess regarding this is just a speculation from my ass too)
New Comparisons
Smash Bros Wii U VS Splatoon
Smash was released in December and holiday season. From next week, Christmas is over and the true comparison begins.
Fever VS The Best+
The Best is dropping more, but the truth is that RH Fever was released just before Obon, and helped to maintain sales. Obon will be week 10 for The Best+.
Minecraft Vita Legs
Smash Bros Wii U VS Splatoon
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| | Super Smash Wii U | Splatoon | Difference |
| | [WIU] (2014/12/06)| [WIU] (2015/05/28)| |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | SSBWU Splt |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 1 | 227.527| 227.527| 144.818| 144.818| 82.709|
| 2 | 79.005| 306.533| 68.913| 213.731| 92.802|
| 3 | 78.927| 385.460| 53.198| 266.929| 118.531|
| 4 | 85.776| 471.236| 43.653| 310.582| 160.654|
| 5 | 58.008| 529.244| 37.458| 348.040| 181.204|
| 6 | 18.884| 548.128| | | |
| 7 | 12.858| 560.986| | | |
| 8 | 8.728| 569.714| | | |
| 9 | 6.398| 576.112| | | |
| 10 | 5.683| 581.796| | | |
| 11 | 6.118| 587.913| | | |
| 12 | 4.881| 592.794| | | |
| 13 | 4.936| 597.730| | | |
| 14 | 4.829| 602.560| | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Total -| 646.705| -| 348.040| 298.665|
-------------------------------------------------------------Smash was released in December and holiday season. From next week, Christmas is over and the true comparison begins.
Fever VS The Best+
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| | Rhythm Fever | Rhythm the Best+ | Difference |
| | [WII] (2011/07/21)| [3DS] (2015/06/11)| |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | RPF RPtB+ |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 1 | 118.173| 118.173| 157.591| 157.591| -39.418|
| 2 | 81.938| 200.112| 66.416| 224.008| -23.896|
| 3 | 62.597| 262.709| 42.718| 266.726| -4.017|
| 4 | 63.590| 326.300| | | |
| 5 | 48.190| 374.489| | | |
| 6 | 25.063| 399.552| | | |
| 7 | 22.762| 422.314| | | |
| 8 | 15.600| 437.913| | | |
| 9 | 14.647| 452.560| | | |
| 10 | 17.354| 469.914| | | |
| 11 | 11.468| 481.382| | | |
| 12 | 10.731| 492.112| | | |
| 13 | 13.202| 505.315| | | |
| 14 | 12.377| 517.691| | | |
| 15 | 9.251| 526.943| | | |
| 16 | 8.581| 535.523| | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Total -| 721.246| -| 266.726| 454.520|
-------------------------------------------------------------The Best is dropping more, but the truth is that RH Fever was released just before Obon, and helped to maintain sales. Obon will be week 10 for The Best+.
Minecraft Vita Legs
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| | Minecraft PSVita | |
| | [PSV] (2015/03/19)| |
|----|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Variation |
|----|---------|---------|--------------|
| 1 | 36.151| 36.151| //|
| 2 | 21.069| 57.220| -42%|
| 3 | 15.880| 73.100| -25%|
| 4 | 11.842| 84.942| -25%|
| 5 | 12.175| 97.117| +3%|
| 6 | 12.667| 109.784| +4%|
| 7 | 16.166| 125.951| +28%|
| 8 | 18.025| 143.976| +12%|
| 9 | 11.303| 155.278| -37%|
| 10 | 11.898| 167.176| +5%|
| 11 | 12.449| 179.625| +5%|
| 12 | 10.708| 190.332| -14%|
| 13 | 9.657| 199.989| -10%|
| 14 | 9.703| 209.693| +0%|
| 15 | 10.896| 220.589| +12%|
|----|---------|---------|--------------|
|Total -| 220.589| |
-----------------------------------------Pennywise83
Banned
You should also check LTDs since Persona will likely be more front loaded.
Even it's a sigle cart, the price is the double as if it was two games. I know it includes also a third DLC, but the price is what is it.
Single Game: 4.700¥ (without tax)
Special Edition: 9.250¥ (without tax)
FW
Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA F
159,592
Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA F 2nd
Vita 98,628/PS3 59,965
P4DAN
94K
I dont think it's a good comparison though, as Miku is a rhythm franchise, correct (i dont know much about it)? Not a spin-off from another genre.
I would if i knew where to find that info ¯\_(ツ
_/¯On current Wii U sales that would require a 40% attachment rate. I think that might be a little optimistic
I'm gonna go with...772,056 LTD sales. Why not.
I know it's optimistic, it's no fun otherwise. It won't just sell to existing WiiU owners though, it's already proven to be a system seller, and hopefully it can stay relevant long enough to benefit from future hardware bumps.
It's proven to be a very leggy title and there's really no telling how far it can go. 500-600k would be pretty low for a game that's selling almost 40k in it's 5th week in the middle of summer. It'd mean we'll start seeing a more rapid decline pretty soon.
More like 1.2-1.3 Million I'd suspect. 1.4 if Persona and MGS V really push it. I think hitting 1.5 will be a tall order.
Firestorm ZERO
Member
How about a first week comparison of P4 DAN with Project Mirai since they are both spin offs
[3DS] Hatsune Miku and Future Stars: Project Mirai - 86.676
[3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai 2 - 88.708
[3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai Deluxe - 41.442
[PSV] Persona 4: Dancing All Night - 94.036
[3DS] Hatsune Miku and Future Stars: Project Mirai - 86.676
[3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai 2 - 88.708
[3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai Deluxe - 41.442
[PSV] Persona 4: Dancing All Night - 94.036
It definitely is but I'm skeptical of the large difference between sales for Awakening and Fates. Part of me wants to attribute this to marketing but other parts of me wants to say it's because of the pandering towards the otaku/common denominator circumstances. Idk...
300-350k first week is pretty high for an Otaku game no?
The Last One
Member
The system is not doing exactly well given the lack of appealing releases in the last few months but according to some people the PS4 should aready be in the sub 10k range like last year, which ended up not being true after all, so it's not that bad either.
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Deleted member 125677
Unconfirmed Member
really good Fire Emblem numbers! And Splatoon keeps on truckin'
I wonder how many people are double dipping for Fire Emblem instead of getting the dlc and if that's inflating the copies sold.
Awakening was also released pretty early in the 3ds's life cycle, but I do think this is definitely siphoning off from Awakening's success.
Awakening was also released pretty early in the 3ds's life cycle, but I do think this is definitely siphoning off from Awakening's success.
Most of the people wanting that would've just got the double pack, which is counted as one game in Media Create.
ethomaz
Banned
PS4 is only tracking below last year YTD because the launch (309k)... all others weeks are ~50% over what it did last year.
A price cut late this year plus big games like MGSV and others will make PS4 have a great year in Japan (> 1.5m).
That is what I thing.
That would be incredible weird since, unlike Pokemon, you can get all the content with 1 copy + DLC or buy the Double Pack directly.
But maybe they want 2 copies for the covers =P
#TeamBirthright
Well,i remember first the game is pitched to Dingo(Creator of Miku rhythm game) and after tons of problem, the game end up being develop by Atlus own team which i believe will increase the cost here.
The easiest comparison will also probably be, the graphics and engine? Thearhythm is develop by a small company(Indies Zero?) here and it still uses the same engine as two older Thearhythm engine which i believe should be much cheaper to develop here.
They couldn't, the double pack is getting scalped for twice the amount now, there is severe supply issues with it.
Collector's collect
, there's no practical reason for doing so (well there is, in streetpass their second copy of the game if they have another 3ds).The Last One
Member
I'm really hopeful that a price cut will indeed help the PS4 in Japan. Sony should do it this year IMO.
Media Create Monthly Hardware Sales
After the terrible May, sales improve a little. Best selling month this year for Wii U
Worst ever for PS3 and One
2014 Monthly Hardware Sales
Code:
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| Month | 3DS | PSV | PS4 | WiiU | PS3 | XB One | Total |
+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|January| 326.739| 125.809| 107.999| 63.623| 48.930| 1.981| 675.081|
| Feb. | 168.806| 82.453| 111.015| 26.200| 27.845| 2.513| 418.832|
| March | 125.971| 89.763| 159.420| 28.726| 27.870| 1.346| 433.096|
| April | 130.845| 89.803| 99.936| 50.572| 22.343| 1.852| 395.311|
| May | 75.340| 53.883| 51.849| 42.889| 13.011| 1.165| 238.137|
| June | 100.082| 59.044| 50.917| 65.364| 10.929| 772| 287.108|
| July | | | | | | | |
| August| | | | | | | |
| Sept. | | | | | | | |
|October| | | | | | | |
| Nov. | | | | | | | |
| Dec. | | | | | | | |
+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
| Total | 927.783| 500.755| 581.136| 277.374| 150.928| 9.620| 2.447.596|
+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+After the terrible May, sales improve a little. Best selling month this year for Wii U
Worst ever for PS3 and One
2014 Monthly Hardware Sales
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| Month | 3DS | PSV | PS4 | WiiU | PS3 | XB One | Total |
+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|January| 359.838| 179.915| -| 93.296| 95.633| -| 728.682|
| Feb. | 158.188| 77.994| 374.839| 32.573| 43.604| -| 687.198|
| March | 174.150| 141.999| 118.499| 38.435| 58.839| -| 531.925|
| April | 149.153| 119.383| 65.029| 32.467| 40.622| -| 406.654|
| May | 106.500| 61.528| 29.323| 42.665| 29.510| -| 269.526|
| June | 117.040| 65.678| 32.929| 47.383| 26.944| -| 289.974|
| July | 203.875| 133.293| 32.758| 45.903| 36.443| -| 452.272|
| August| 166.056| 77.905| 24.808| 49.328| 23.017| -| 341.114|
| Sept. | 143.155| 57.072| 47.894| 32.757| 24.326| 31.116| 336.320|
|October| 563.864| 57.552| 44.941| 28.376| 25.302| 3.811| 723.846|
| Nov. | 339.588| 70.605| 51.534| 40.900| 19.061| 4.771| 526.459|
| Dec. | 695.148| 125.646| 148.113| 134.067| 36.016| 3.569| 1.142.559|
+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
| Total | 3.176.525| 1.168.570| 970.667| 618.150| 459.317| 43.267| 6.436.496|
+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+Next Fire Emblem game will be a lewd dating sim and it'll be the best selling game in the series
DAY 1 WAIFU
Considering famous manga artists are doing their own spin on Splatoon without anyone paying them - it must be pretty popular even without a huge marketing budget.
I'm guessing the fact that there is constant updates is keeping it in people's minds. Should be interesting if it gets a bump in August when the big update rolls around.
I would if i knew where to find that info ¯\_(ツ
Here.
Theatrhythm FF - 163K
Theatrhythm FF:CC - 150K
Theatrhythm DQ - 113K
I'm wondering if we'll see Splatoon get a +x% week-on-week difference before it drops below 5 figures. What week is this for it? Week 5? 6?
Nice FE opening! As long as the game play remains consistently good I will overlook the "anime x waifu" invasion if it saves the series from doom.
P4AN also had a nice opening. I bet it will be fairly frontloaded, however, and fall off quickly. I am interested to see what kind of reception it will have overseas. P4 is popular and Vita users tend to be heavy software buyers but then again this is a rhythm spin-off.
Splatoon keeps on truckin. Nintendo may have another hit on its hands.
P4
AN also had a nice opening. I bet it will be fairly frontloaded, however, and fall off quickly. I am interested to see what kind of reception it will have overseas. P4 is popular and Vita users tend to be heavy software buyers but then again this is a rhythm spin-off.Splatoon keeps on truckin. Nintendo may have another hit on its hands.