Indeed. Zelda, Pokémon Z, Monster Hunter 5...such a big lineup! /s
But I actually believe Pokémon could be one of the launch games, if it doesn't release this year (likey), neither next February (unkown).Cross-gen, of course.
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Media Create Sales: Week 17, 2015 (Apr 20 - Apr 26)
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Indeed. Zelda, Pokémon Z, Monster Hunter 5...such a big lineup! /s
CaviarMeths
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86k first week for Xenoblade isn't a total disaster, I guess. Will be more popular in the west, so we may even see it get within spitting distance of one million worldwide. Hyrule Warriors did, with 120-130k LTD in Japan.
how bad is it?
Oh yeah, include me among the people who are surprised by DQX's result. Especially on Wii U, considering its status! And I wonder how digital sales have been (going by how things went when the original and the first expansion released...even if I doubt the numbers will be similar to the first expansion's digital sales).
CaviarMeths
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Think it'll drop that much? The first game did 500k in NA alone.
I don't think 1 million worldwide is a sure or even likely thing, but I think there's a chance, depending on release window in NA/EU. My guess would be around 700k WW.
Moor-Angol
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I just realized how overestimated was my expectation after Phamit reminded me how WiiU performed during MK8 launch
I think we can always include you to be positively surprised by the sales performance of any title on a certain ecosystem
Where did you get 500k for Xenoblade in North America? That's like Dark Souls territory, and It was a Gamestop exclusive.
Just like BW2 was on DS, it's pretty much guaranteed the next Pokémon game will be on 3DS no matter when the 4DS launches. But a mainline Pokémon game will more likely be released sooner in the 4DS lifecycle (2017 seems like the safest bet).
2016 is pretty much guaranteed to get a Pokémon game, since it'll be the 20th anniversary... and there most likely won't be one this year (it would have been announced already), and it's unlikely they're going have two years without a mainline Pokémon.
Now, where the hell is that Pikachu Detective game, ha ha.
Psycho_Mantis
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LordOcidax
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86k for XCX and >20k for the Wii U is not bad at all, a lot better than i expected. Are some people really waiting pokemon or mk8 numbers? Lolol
Maybe not a million, but my expectations would be +500k for sure, landing somewhere in between 500k & 1m. The first game didn't get a lot of exposure, and the game has been heavily advertised in the west already.
I'd assume they'll have another E3 trailer + release date and the 3DS game will bring some new fans in.
LOL Mortal Kombat has always been more popular (obviously not in Japan)
CaviarMeths
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It was Gamestop exlcusive, and I had read from here and there that NoA ordered a limited print run of 500k copies. Seeing as the game is almost impossible to find new, I had assumed the sell-through rate was nearly 100%.
Edit: I'm seeing a lot of hits on Google for that 500k number, but none of the links seem to be able to verify the source. Suspecting chartz, so probably pretty inaccurate.
I highly doubt that the print run was 500k. All Nintendo stated officially is that the game sold more in the west than it did in Japan. Considering the Japanese LTD for Xenoblade was ~200k, that doesn't really say much.
ROFLMAO.
500k wouldn't be a "limited print run".
500k in the US would make it a top 5 console JRPG last gen. Maybe top 3. Did FF 13-2 even hit 500k?
And Europe got the game like a year before the US did, without being a single retailer exclusive. So I'm sure it all adds up over time.
CaviarMeths
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ROFLMAO.
500k wouldn't be a "limited print run".
Ok, it wasn't that funny.
But yeah, it looks like I have been duped by bloggers.
Ok, it wasn't that funny.
But yeah, it looks like I have been duped by bloggers.
JRPGs with no connections to Final Fantasy or Nintendo's big money characters pretty much never sell 500k in the US anymore.
Surely 2016 will see a new Pokémon main game released. It'll probably be Pokémon X2/Y2 or Pokémon Z, there are enough hints about it. The question is if it'll release in February (coinciding with the Anniversary) or later. In the case it's released later, I wouldn't be that surprised if the game comes right about NX's launch, on both 3DS and NX. I know that Black & White 2 released only on DS (and well after 3DS was released, October 2012 even!), but maybe this time they'll act differently, especially seeing how much 3DS suffered in the first months due to the lack of a steady and relevant software lineup (alongside the price). In the case they go with Pokémon X2/Y2, with one of them being a next gen exclusive...it wouldn't even be the first time: the first Pokémon Mystery Dungeon was released in 2005 in two versions: one for GBA and one for DS. We'll have to wait and see surely.
About the Pikachu Detective Game...yeah, I'm wondering where it is. It was a 2015 title in development since 2013. Where is it. Maybe, next few months? I mean, Animal Crossing is Summer in Japan (it seems), so right now Nintendo has no first party title in Japan for the Holidays announced. I expect that to change in the next few weeks/months (something at E3, maybe other announcements later). Personally, one of the titles I'm expecting to see announced is one between Paper Mario (Sticker Star was released in 2012, it'd be over 3 years after, but Intelligent System seems to be already busy enough) and Mario & Luigi (Dream Bros. released in Summer 2013, it'd be 2 years and almost a half after that).
Jaded Alyx
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If you had said 50k then maybe...
DarkLordMalik
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It's actually nothing new, sadly.
kuroneko0509
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Poor DQX Wii lol
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Haven't been following sales threads for quite some time, but what is the general sentiment in this thread regarding dedicated video game consoles in Japan? Does anyone still expect PS4 to "take off" at some point, or will it follow the trend set by Wii U? Or to frame my question somewhat different: Is Wii U still considered the odd fluke? I guess there's a multitude of opinions - or hopes and dreams - around here regarding that question, but you get my point.
Is there any reason to believe (historical precedent) that Japan could be a global trend setter in this regard? That we will see the same thing happening in the west as well, though perhaps next generation?
Is there any reason to believe (historical precedent) that Japan could be a global trend setter in this regard? That we will see the same thing happening in the west as well, though perhaps next generation?
Today's releases {2015.04.29}
[3DS] Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment) (¥4.320)
[WIU] Xenoblade Chronicles X # <RPG> (Nintendo) (¥8.316) (sold out 品切れ中
[WIU] Xenoblade Chronicles X (Wii U Xenoblade Chronicles X Set) <RPG> (Nintendo) (¥37.800) (sold out 品切れ中
Xenbolade sold out? Nice.
No, it's not.
03./00. [WIU] Xenoblade Chronicles X (Nintendo) {2015.04.29} - 86.119 / NEW <70%>
Unfortunately there is apparently no such thing as games selling out anymore.
LordOcidax
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What are XenobladeC Wii first week sales numbers and Wii user base at that time?
djplaeskool
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LordOcidax
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Ohh, thanks. Not bad at all for XCX.
MrNyarlathotep
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10 years ago mobile phone gaming was definitely a 'thing' in Japan, and a common response to that here was "lol japan that will never happen here we have the DS and the PSP"
theprodigy
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Userbase size doesn't really matter for games selling 100-200k.
gamergirly
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Web, Xeno X needs to break the 150K mark
The Last One
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The numbers looks like are from a regular week lol
MrNyarlathotep
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Yes, but things like Square having a division dedicated solely to porting titles to mobile and creating new titles just for mobiles was laughed at.
BadMediaKarma
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85k
All that hype and marketing.
Did it even sell out at least? This is just tragic
All that hype and marketing.
Did it even sell out at least? This is just tragic
djplaeskool
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Doesn't seem like it.
I actually should be getting my Wii U and XenoX tomorrow.
If you're looking for it, It's available.
Heck, between the time I put the game in my Amazon.jp cart and a little bit later when I decided on the console bundle i wanted, the price dropped 300Y
shinra-bansho
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Something could certainly serve as substitute for the Western home console core segment in future. Smart devices could develop to sufficiently satisfy the market; it could be PC gaming, this is probably happening to a degree already; it could be a new delivery model that utilises a combination of these and other platforms.
The Japanese market doesn't really serve as an exemplar or forerunner in this regard though, mainly because the consumer needs, behaviours, tastes, lifestyle don't necessarily align that well to major Western markets. The market has developed differently rather than more rapidly. More specifically population density and commuter lifestyle have driven migration from and substitution of home consoles with/towards dedicated handheld systems, something that I don't think anyone would say is likely in Western markets.
For certain consumer segments, these are in turn now being substituted with convergent smart devices.