Somewhere along the past few weeks, we went from severely underestimating MK8D to maybe overestimating it.
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Somewhere along the past few weeks, we went from severely underestimating MK8D to maybe overestimating it.
darkstar0155
Member
very true and I didn't think of the WW aspect. I think its a game they will wait to announce/release (I would think the release would be close to the announcement) until they know when demand starts to slow down. If they are still selling out WW (very doubtful, sellouts WW will probably start to slow down after Zelda hype dies down) through the summer I wouldn't be surprised if they make it a next feb/march title.
True, I think either Smash or Pokémon could get them to realise those hefty sales projections. I doubt that Skyrim could serve as a replacement system sellers to a comparable degree, seeing as it is now effectively the third iteration (original release, remasters last holiday, and now Switch version next holiday). Then again, being portable has made some Bethesda youtubers I listen to very enthusiastic, so it might bring in decent numbers from the Bethesda fanbase.
No, no, and I definitely didn't mean to insinuate anything of the sort. I just think that the relatively lower attractive power of Splatoon in the West means it won't quite cut it for the higher sales expectations that are connected to NA regions.
It hasn't been announced because it's unlikely to be released before November. Doesn't make any sense to announce it so early.
May/June announcement is more likely, though that's just my two cents.
darkstar0155
Member
I know this is a JP thread, but what did Splatoon do for hardware numbers in NA? Did they actually increase a good amount or did it just sell to the current users
darkstar0155
Member
Just the local on a portable device that allows multiple players to connect to one lobby from a couple of device will ensure plenty of sales this year. This is Japan we are talking about and I don't think anyone here doesn't agree that MK7 -> MK8 upgrade is substantial. The new battle mode will be ensure that local and online is actually a lot move lively than MK8. I'd be surprised if its not close to MK8 lifetime sales by the end of the summer vacation.
I can provide this source:
Edit: Sorry, misread this bit of text.nintendolife.com said:
I also have found this quote from the June 2015 NPD coverage:
This suggests that the hardware boosts for WiiU were not really connected to Splatoon in NA, since it doesn't manifest during the release months (it launched at the very end of may, so I am counting May and June for release months). I think that Splatoon didn't have a massive influence on the hardware numbers in NA, although you could argue that it had similar influence as compared to Mario Kart 8 the previous year, which would still be pretty good.nintendolife.com said:
darkstar0155
Member
Interesting. I do think Splatoon will help shift switch units but probably not to a huge degree (in the US).
Breaking news!!
Nintendo going all out on Fire Emblem it seems, they just announced yet another game for April 20th, this time on Switch... but also 3DS. I guess even Nintendo doesn't have faith in their own console anymore, heh.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/ajjj/0401/index.html
On topic, this reminded me that Fire Emblem Warriors was also cross-platform. Really curious about the platform split for that one.
Nintendo going all out on Fire Emblem it seems, they just announced yet another game for April 20th, this time on Switch... but also 3DS. I guess even Nintendo doesn't have faith in their own console anymore, heh.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/ajjj/0401/index.html
Yes, it's April's Fools.
On topic, this reminded me that Fire Emblem Warriors was also cross-platform. Really curious about the platform split for that one.
Jon Carter
Member
That's a very bold prediction to be so confident in. I don't see it selling anywhere near that many copies.
What kind of April Fools' joke is that? Make a huge software announcement for your new console then say, "Ha! I was just kidding!"?
Did you look at the webpage? The real joke contained in there is that they would sell that for 6000 yen.
FE Warriors is only on the new 3DS, right? The user base is about 5 million right now (probably up to 6-6.5 million when it launches), so the gulf is not quite as vast as it is for other software titles.
Huh? They've already announced not one, but 2 FE games for the Switch already. I don't think anyone would expect one more announced so soon, especially on the same day as Echoes... not to mention the whole thing immediately gives it away.*
That being said, I do admit a Bakumatsu FE would be really interesting.
* now, if they had done with Metroid or another of Nintendo's "dead" franchises...
Yup. Not a surprise after Hyrule Warriors.
Used price for Switch console in Japan around ¥32,000 http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXLASDJ23H3U_R30C17A3QM8000/
Jon Carter
Member
Season 2 of the Monster Strike anime also started, by the way.
theprodigy
Member
The Wii U was up the first 4 months in 2015 vs 2014 in NPD because Mario Kart 8 hadn't released yet, the moment you put in MK8 vs Splatoon the Wii U started falling behind in the YoY comparison (and quite fast too, June 2015 was like half of June 2014).
edit: also the up 10% YoY through 7 months figure is software not hardware
Dengeki for FY 2016-17 (March 28th 2016 to March 26th 2017)
Software: -6.1% (32.38 million units) / -1.7% (328 billion Yen)
Hardware: +0.2% (5.41 million units sold) / -1% (136.5 billion Yen)
Top 3 Software:
[3DS] Pokémon Sun and Moon (The Pokémon Company): 3.22 million units
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch 3: Sushi / Tempura (Level-5): 1.33 million units
[3DS] Monster Hunter XX (Capcom): 1.24 million units
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/494/1494424/
Also, finally looked at the Famitsu data Chris posted a few pages ago, and damn... 3DS was actually up YoY? Wasn't expecting that. 2DS really helped, would've been down otherwise.
Software: -6.1% (32.38 million units) / -1.7% (328 billion Yen)
Hardware: +0.2% (5.41 million units sold) / -1% (136.5 billion Yen)
Top 3 Software:
[3DS] Pokémon Sun and Moon (The Pokémon Company): 3.22 million units
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch 3: Sushi / Tempura (Level-5): 1.33 million units
[3DS] Monster Hunter XX (Capcom): 1.24 million units
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/494/1494424/
Also, finally looked at the Famitsu data Chris posted a few pages ago, and damn... 3DS was actually up YoY? Wasn't expecting that. 2DS really helped, would've been down otherwise.
FreedomFighter
Member
So much for no droughts. Nintendo really should've had more software available.
Famitsu has this:
PS1 Street Fighter EX Plus α - 107.910 / 203.803 (Capcom) 7/17/1997
PS2 Street Fighter EX3 - 76.389 / 183.974 (Capcom) 3/4/2000
PS1 Street Fighter EX2 Plus - 30.810 / 66.052 (Capcom) 12/22/1999
https://sites.google.com/site/gamedatalibrary/game-search
Code:
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| | Famitsu | Famitsu | Famitsu | Famitsu | Famitsu |
| | GBA | PS2 | 3DS | PS4 | NSW |
|Wk|2001.03.21|2000.03.04|2011.02.26|2014.02.22|2017.03.03|
| | to | to | to | to | to |
| |2002.03.17|2001.02.25|2012.02.19|2015.02.15|2018.02.25|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
| 1| 611.504| 630.552| 371.326| 322.083| 330.637|
| 2| 323.686| 154.245| 206.087| 52.697| 63.420|
| 3| 197.421| 71.780| 104.412| 30.766| 50.821|
| 4| 139.499| 112.620| 64.942| 28.864| 79.493|
| 5| 95.324| 165.685| 54.656| 33.341| |
| 6| 141.090| 119.430| 43.178| 24.138| |
| 7| 141.091| 75.704| 32.759| 15.036| |
| 8| 88.872| 74.350| 25.320| 12.053| |
| 9| 70.875| 77.762| 21.275| 13.034| |
|10| 71.334| 53.956| 25.331| 10.129| |
|11| 58.187| 61.022| 26.107| 11.692| |
|12| 51.363| 77.928| 16.379| 8.680| |
|13| 52.998| 125.940| 16.465| 6.887| |
|14| 93.821| 117.376| 25.096| 7.387| |
|15| 91.094| 111.150| 27.868| 6.866| |
|16| 94.380| 95.967| 24.226| 8.010| |
|17| 73.315| 93.939| 41.086| 7.351| |
|18| 95.618| 112.157| 27.378| 6.527| |
|19| 85.209| 127.102| 31.545| 8.244| |
|20| 85.225| 111.320| 23.219| 7.111| |
|21| 94.412| 84.448| 45.949| 6.731| |
|22| 94.413| 79.038| 32.381| 5.865| |
|23| 78.328| 83.777| 15.819| 5.177| |
|24| 64.827| 83.779| 3.701| 5.243| |
|25| 57.405| 77.202| 214.821| 5.030| |
|26| 50.440| 68.593| 107.462| 6.314| |
|27| 68.770| 64.758| 57.927| 5.405| |
|28| 61.566| 67.404| 55.264| 5.757| |
|29| 44.922| 44.216| 49.191| 6.373| |
|30| 39.363| 44.279| 62.245| 22.213| |
|31| 37.057| 40.517| 68.386| 8.284| |
|32| 44.413| 37.171| 55.853| 7.259| |
|33| 36.074| 31.303| 50.916| 6.791| |
|34| 33.146| 28.203| 54.460| 9.883| |
|35| 28.096| 25.822| 75.386| 6.810| |
|36| 31.083| 30.538| 67.854| 7.903| |
|37| 43.908| 26.159| 128.287| 8.014| |
|38| 38.887| 18.749| 89.938| 9.376| |
|39| 120.711| 11.390| 88.225| 14.173| |
|40| 264.849| 4.628| 110.088| 11.141| |
|41| 215.740| 34.860| 216.350| 12.073| |
|42| 286.481| 58.367| 378.114| 13.040| |
|43| 88.366| 66.536| 387.838| 64.017| |
|44| 56.426| 66.538| 510.629| 21.657| |
|45| 44.037| 110.648| 203.605| 30.145| |
|46| 44.118| 40.361| 257.377| 35.789| |
|47| 34.432| 33.552| 101.697| 16.716| |
|48| 39.002| 61.904| 77.519| 13.074| |
|49| 35.306| 71.091| 81.699| 11.513| |
|50| 29.034| 65.608| 69.180| 13.971| |
|51| 30.946| 56.378| 60.231| 14.812| |
|52| 28.382| 54.482| 88.909| 17.981| |
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
Eolz
Member
Oh goddammit ahahah. At least it got locked quickly.
I was at a nearby BOOKOFF the other day, and the buy price was impressively high, ¥29,000. There were none for sale of course. I am starting to see some used games around though. Mostly Bomberman and Disgaea.
It's going to go by really quick. Right now schools are on spring break. The new school year and financial year are starting up soon, which means joining clubs and mandatory after work drinking.
We don't really need any games until May. Thats when people start feeling depressed because work and school have returned to the normal grind.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
MK8D has 113p points on COMG
SF2 has 9 points(it's gonna be sad if this does better than SFV)
SF2 has 9 points(it's gonna be sad if this does better than SFV)
frankie_baby
Member
SF2 was at 8 yesterday, if it keeps rising at this rate I'll be serving some delicious crow
/s obviously, i dont expect it to rise a point a day, I'm not quite that crazy
Resistance100
Member
I see these a lot in this thread. Is it a case of more points = pre-order numbers?
COMG is a retail chain in Japan. Each point is a preorder at one of their stores.
The "it pretty much rules Switch out" post is incredible lol, people are so eager to see the exclusivity deal break.
Resistance100
Member
There were some kids buying a Switch at my local Geo this afternoon. They super exited to find one, the older sister ran home to get money to buy it.
I knew it was selling well, but this was the first time I had seen one getting sold. Glad to see children excited to get the Switch too.
1st Course
Member
MK8D will be treated as a new title. MK8 being on the Wii U is non factor.
Right, I think for a series like Mario Kart, the number doesn't even matter really. It's Nintendo's most widely-appealing series, people don't buy Mario Kart just because it's new, they buy it because it's the Mario Kart for their new Nintendo system. This is also why I don't think there's any point in them releasing a Mario Kart 9 for the Switch. MK8 will sell throughout the life of the system, introducing a new game would just use up development resources and split the userbase, for not much gain. Better to just release some new DLC in a couple of years.
Sammy Samusu
Member
C'mon, it's a remake from such an old game, and FE recently got a new life, lots of new fans.
This new release may be a remake but most fans of Awakening and Fates didn't even know about Gaiden's existence. It's an all new adventure with an all new cast for most people.
MHXX got hit by the 3DS fatigue and soon Pikmin will be the next victim. Atlus better embrace themselves too.
test_account
XP-39C²
For a game like Mario Kart, theres a lot more money in doing a new entry rather than release a few packs of DLC. Its also easier to market and hype a brand new game than "just" addons. It feels more fresh, like a brand new game (which is is).
I wouldn't really equate the west with Japan as far as Echoes goes. Once again, this game was the second lowest scoring in the Famitsu Poll with the first being Shadow Dragon, another remake.
That's pretty interesting, sounds like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has a big system selling potential despite being a remaster (as many predicted already). It also seems like MK8D might have a pretty strong launch.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Well it is Mario kart probably the Wii u's strongest system seller outside maybe New Super Mario brothers U