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[iifu]

Oh it just came out today? any news regarding the differences in the super mario bros. 25th anniversary edition?

From johntv on Twitter:

25th Anniversary Super Mario Bros. cleared. Sad to report there's nothing new besides the "25" question blocks and the copyright text. ;p

 

[lo zaffo]

16/12/04 [GCN] Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat (Nintendo) - 46.594 / 220.132
11/12/08 [WII] New Play Control! Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat (Nintendo) - 25.216 / 114.657

Yeppa! I didn't knew GCN Jungle Beat did over 200k in JPN! Not bad, isn't it?! I did my part with a bargain JPN copy after my day one EUR copy. EAD Tokyo brach always on top!

 

[jcm]

PSPGo is going to finally sell out of its initial 150K shipment in roughly the next 5 weeks. :lol Someone should chart its weekly rise to heaven to 150K.

I'm really curious to see what they'll do. Make more? Pretend it never happened? It's very exciting.

 

[jj984jj]

I'm pretty confident in saying that is it likely Vanquish has not sold 300k worldwide, and will likely never sell more than 400k worldwide. For a multiplatform third person shooter from a big publisher with a worldwide release, that's a pretty substantial failure all around. Mikami has now directed 3 bombas in a row. What a sucker

Spoiler

his producers are

.

Atsushi Inaba and Hiroyuki Kobayashi were probably producing them out of respect on some level, since he was once their superior at Capcom.

 

[farnham]

From johntv on Twitter:

romhack confirmed :lol :lol

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

That Black DSi is fucking sexy.

Are there any indications that there is demand for the new red Wii? Mario Collection was their last big Japanese release of the year no?

 

[cvxfreak]

PN03

Godhand

Vanquish

Err...

PN03
Biohazard 4
God Hand
Vanquish

One of these was not a bomb.

 

[-KRS-]

Poor My Wife.

 

[duckroll]

Err...

PN03
Biohazard 4
God Hand
Vanquish

One of these was not a bomb.

Oh, I actually honestly forgot about RE4. RE is an established franchise though, the point still stands that in 10 years Mikami has attempted 3 new IPs and none of them were remotely successful.

 

[Grimmy]

How do God Eater Burst and WE2011's 2nd week compare to their predecessors Chris1964?

 

[Chris1964]

Second week

[PSP] God Eater (Bandai Namco) - 110.235 / 405.640
[PSP] God Eater: Burst (Bandai Namco) - 61.834 / 324.984

[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) < 34.000
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 42.368 / 210.773
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 49.129 / 266.977
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 55.809 / 271.066

 

[Grimmy]

Thanks! Not surprised that God Eater: Burst is lagging behind its predecessor.

 

[swerve]

That Black DSi is fucking sexy.

Are there any indications that there is demand for the new red Wii? Mario Collection was their last big Japanese release of the year no?

Donkey Kong just got dated for 9th December, thankfully. And I guess there's flingsmash/resort relaunch. And then Last Story in January. Not *too* shabby really.

 

[donny2112]

I still don't understand how Donkey Kong Land 2 sold so poorly...

Probably something to do with that total only reflecting the first four weeks of sales, since that's all we have on the title. Since it didn't make the Top 100 in 1997 either, it's probably < 200K, though.

 

[Chris1964]

I still don't understand how Donkey Kong Land 2 sold so poorly...

We' ve had this conversation before. Being same day with Donkey Kong Country 3 had some impact on Donkey Kong Land 2.

 

[farnham]

I still don't understand how Donkey Kong Land 2 sold so poorly...

donkey kong land in general was downright awful in comparison to donkey kong country.

its quite impressive what they did on the GB but still it looked horrible.

 

[FINALFANTASYDOG]

How do God Eater Burst and WE2011's 2nd week compare to their predecessors Chris1964?

Important thing to remember: this is the 2nd WE released this year(In less then 5 months time) so it's not entirely fair to judge it's performance relative to the past WE(year) releases.

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu previous entries

17/04/08 [NDS] Fossil Fighters (Nintendo) - 39.666 / 253.350
18/11/10 [NDS] Super Fossil Fighters (Nintendo) - ? / ?

03/12/09 [NDS] Stitch! DS Rhythm and Ohana Adventure (Disney Interactive) - 20.139 / 88.200
18/11/10 [NDS] More! Stitch! DS Scribble Battle Through Rhythm DS (Disney Interactive) - ? / ?

18/10/07 [NDS] Sonic Rush (Sega) - 2.500 / 2.500
18/11/10 [NDS] Sonic Colors (Sega) - ? / ?

15/09/05 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 (Konami) - 87.935 / 244.462
14/12/06 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 (Konami) - 25.852 / 130.919
24/01/08 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) - 70.313 / 190.140
29/01/09 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 102.221 / 250.204
10/12/09 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 46.138 / 211.704
18/11/10 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - ? / ?

23/03/06 [PS2] Jan Sangoku Musou (Koei) - 5.716 / 22.723
28/09/06 [NDS] Jan Sangoku Musou (Koei) - / 6.576
[PSP] Jan Sangoku Musou 2 (Koei Tecmo) - ? / ?

03/06/10 [PSP] Hisshou Pachinko Pachislot Kouryaku Series Portable Vol. 1: CR Neon Genesis Evangelion - Tamashii no Kiseki (D3 Publisher) - 16.623 / 22.931
18/11/10 [PSP] Hisshou Pachinko Pachislot Kouryaku Series Portable Vol. 2: CR Neon Genesis Evangelion - Hajimari no Fukuin (D3 Publisher) - ? / ?

21/02/08 [WII] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) - 38.360 / 109.895
14/05/09 [WII] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 14.676 / 54.454
10/12/09 [WII] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 9.300 / 27.954
18/11/10 [WII] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - ? / ?

15/03/07 [WII] Sonic and the Secret Rings (Sega) - 9.353 / 30.563
18/12/08 [WII] Sonic Unleashed (Sega) - 5.800 / 21.508
12/03/09 [WII] Sonic and the Black Knight (Sega) - 4.100 / 13.443
18/11/10 [WII] Sonic Colors (Sega) - ? / ?

14/06/07 [PS3] Call of Duty 3 (Spike) - 14.117 / 32.765
27/12/07 [PS3] Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision) - 20.692 / 113.957
10/12/09 [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Square Enix) - 117.391 / 249.068
18/11/10 [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops (Subtitled Edition) (Square Enix) - ? / ?

27/09/07 [PS3] Record of Agarest War (Compile Heart) - 9.024 / 23.688
25/06/09 [PS3] Record of Agarest War Zero (Idea Factory) - 14.316 / 28.213
18/11/10 [PS3] Record of Agarest War 2 (Compile Heart) - ? / ?

15/06/06 [360] Call of Duty 2 (Konami) - 4.773 / 8.664
29/03/07 [360] Call of Duty 3 (Electronic Arts) - 7.938 / 14.194
27/12/07 [360] Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision) - 25.901 / 54.752
10/12/09 [360] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Square Enix) - 60.517 / 87.374
18/11/10 [360] Call of Duty: Black Ops (Subtitled Edition) (Square Enix) - ? / ?

15/03/01 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 5 (Konami) - 198.753 / 506.596
25/04/02 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 6: International (Konami) - 374.055 / 1.116.786
07/08/03 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 7 (Konami) - 598.933 / 1.100.238
05/08/04 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 (Konami) - 627.017 / 1.059.585
04/08/05 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 (Konami) - 552.386 / 934.498
27/04/06 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 (Konami) - 470.163 / 1.050.319
22/11/07 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) - 305.234 / 680.152
29/01/09 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 101.857 / 239.928
10/12/09 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 31.184 / 103.958
18/11/10 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - ? / ?

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Japan does not love the super cute Kirby?

 

[Chris1964]

Important thing to remember: this is the 2nd WE released this year(In less then 5 months time) so it's not entirely fair to judge it's performance relative to the past WE(year) releases.

Situation with PS2 was worse. It also had J-League.

2001
15/03/01 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 5 (Konami) - 198.753 / 506.596
25/10/01 [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 5 (Konami) - 40.460 / 77.225
13/12/01 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 5: Final Evolution (Konami) - 155.443 / 429.270

2002
25/04/02 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 6: International (Konami) - 374.055 / 1.116.786
19/09/02 [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 6 (Konami) - 24.064 / 51.496
12/12/02 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 6: Final Evolution (Konami) - 262.756 / 630.793

2003
07/08/03 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 7 (Konami) - 598.933 / 1.100.238
11/12/03 [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven: Tactics (Konami) - 39.073 / 94.168

2004
19/02/04 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 7: International (Konami) - 305.138 / 527.375
05/08/04 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 (Konami) - 627.017 / 1.059.585
18/11/04 [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 8: Asia Championship (Konami) - 40.971 / 105.091
09/12/04 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven Tactics: European Club Soccer (Konami) - 14.358 / 45.336

2005
24/03/05 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 8: Liveware Evolution (Konami) - 264.977 / 468.242
04/08/05 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 (Konami) - 552.386 / 934.498
17/11/05 [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 9: Asia Championship (Konami) - 52.319 / 131.319

2006
26/01/06 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 9: Bonus Pack (Konami) - 21.460 / 140.668
27/04/06 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 (Konami) - 470.163 / 1.050.319
22/11/06 [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 10 + Europe League 06-07 (Konami) - 90.799 / 238.754

2007
02/08/07 [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2007: Club Championship (Konami) - 136.530 / 298.255
22/11/07 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) - 305.234 / 680.152

2008
21/08/08 [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2008: Club Championship (Konami) - 80.730 / 203.642

2009
29/01/09 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 101.857 / 239.928
06/08/09 [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2009: Club Championship (Konami) - 34.938 / 92.810
10/12/09 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 31.184 / 103.958

2010
20/05/10 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Blue Samurai Challenge (Konami) - 13.344 / 71.444
05/08/10 [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2010: Club Championship (Konami) - 9.996 / 25.104
18/11/10 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami)

 

[cvxfreak]

Oh, I actually honestly forgot about RE4. RE is an established franchise though, the point still stands that in 10 years Mikami has attempted 3 new IPs and none of them were remotely successful.

How could you forget?

 

[rpmurphy]

Yeppa! I didn't knew GCN Jungle Beat did over 200k in JPN! Not bad, isn't it?! I did my part with a bargain JPN copy after my day one EUR copy. EAD Tokyo brach always on top!

Sorry for off-topic, but your avatar triggers a phishing warning for me. :S

 

[Road]

Dengeki Sales, Nov 01 - 07, 2010:

01 / 02 [PSP] God Eater Burst (Bandai Namco) - 59,624 / 290,675
02 / 03 [WII] Super Mario Collection Special Pack (Nintendo) - 54,625 / 474,507
03 / 01 [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami) - 51,783 / 286,844
04 / 00 [PS3] Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks) - 36,022 / 36,022
05 / 00 [NDS] Radiant Historia (Atlus) - 29,783 / 29,783
06 / 05 [NDS] Pokemon Black (Pokemon) - 29,578 / 2,273,558
07 / 06 [NDS] Pokemon White (Pokemon) - 25,489 / 2,097,605
08 / 00 [360] Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks) - 21,464 / 21,464
09 / 07 [WII] Kirby's Epic Yarn (Nintendo) - 21,228 / 176,110
10 / 12 [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 16,780 / 1,149,152
11 / 04 [NDS] Golden Sun: Dark Down (Nintendo) - 13,044 / 62,068
12 / 09 [PS3] Naruto Shippuuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 (Bandai Namco) - 8,121 / 91,920
13 / 19 [NDS] Kingdom Hearts Re:Coded (Square Enix) - 6,678 / 164,210
14 / 23 [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP the Best Reprint) (Capcom) - 6,189 / ?
15 / 10 [NDS] Solatorobo: Sorekara Coda e (Bandai Namco) - 5,920 / 24,400
16 / 14 [PS3] Vanquish (Sega) - 5,765 / 66,349
17 / 17 [PSP] Lord of Aracana (Square Enix) - 5,115 / 111,199
18 / 18 [PS3] Medal of Honor (Electronic Arts) - 5,065 / 42,034
19 / 26 [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle! (Bandai Namco) - 5,017 / ?
20 / 35 [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo) - 4,940 / ?


Other software (first week / LTD):
-


1) Sell-through
-


2) Fiscal Year Apr~Oct, 2010:
Units:
- hadware: 3.98 million (-16.7%);
- software: 32.83 million (-6.3%);

Value
- hadware: 80.0 billion yen (-21.0%)
- software: 166.6 billion yen (-5.6%)
- total: 246.7 billion yen (-11.2%)

Hardware |  This Week |  Last Week |    YTD     |    LTD
------------------------------------------------------------
NDS      |     39,566 |     57,820 |  2,245,707 | 31,213,514
PSP      |     37,302 |     42,826 |  1,853,589 | 15,261,926
PS3      |     24,853 |     28,387 |  1,277,352 |  5,764,633
WII      |     10,809 |     11,346 |  1,250,296 | 10,796,106
360      |     	2,491 |      3,141 |    205,799 |  1,414,687
PS2      |     	1,411 |      1,484 |     	| 	
------------------------------------------------------------
Total    |    116,432 |    145,004 |

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/319/319064/
http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/569/569331/
http://research.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/061/61030/index.html

Oct 25 - 31, 2010
Oct 18 - 24, 2010
Oct 11 - 17, 2010
Oct 04 - 10, 2010
Sep 27 - Oct 03
Sep 20 - 26
Sep 13 - 19
Sep 06 - 12
Aug 30 - Sep 05

 

[Kenka]

Japan does not love the super cute Kirby?

I think it has more to do with the series being absent on home consoles for so long. In absolute terms, the performance is not bad. But I agree that, relatively to former entries, numbers have sucked so far. Let's hope it can climb to 300'000 when it is all said and done.

 

[king zell]

Tactics Ogre *this week biggest release)

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/16398

Japanese lining up for Call of Duty!

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/16396

more releases for the week (gow, DB etc..)

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/16394

 

[Fafalada]

27/04/06 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 (Konami) - 470.163 / 1.050.319

[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 55.809 / 271.066

Good job Konami - even in the one place with no competition it only took 4 years or so to kill the series.

 

[Chris1964]

21. / 22. [PS3] Red Dead Redemption (Take-Two Interactive)
22. / 34. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
23. / 28. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle (Bandai Namco)
24. / 00. [NDS] Do-Konjou Shougakussei: Bon Bita - Hadaka no Choujou Ketsusen!! Bita Vs. Dokuro Dei! (Bandai Namco)
25. / 33. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
26. / 35. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
27. / 11. [PSP] Dream Club Portable (D3 Publisher)
28. / 08. [360] Fable III (Microsoft Game Studios)
29. / 44. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo)
30. / 23. [PS3] Sports Champions (SCE)
31. / 43. [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo)
32. / 45. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco)
33. / 41. [PSP] Monster Hunter Diary: Pokapoka Ailu Village (Capcom)
34. / 30. [PSP] Black Leopard: A New Tale of Yakuza (Sega)
35. / 49. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (Konami)
36. / 12. [PS2] Hakuouki: Reimeiroku (Idea Factory)
37. / 26. [PS3] FIFA 11: World Class Soccer (Electronic Arts)
38. / 31. [PSP] K-On! After School Live!! (Sega)
39. / 32. [PSP] Eiyuu Densetsu: Zero no Kiseki (Nihon Falcom)
40. / 38. [NDS] Zack and Ombra: Amusement Park of Illusion (Konami)
41. / 37. [PS3] Gekijouban Macross F: Itsuwarino Utahime - Hybrid Pack (Bandai Namco)
42. / 13. [PSP] Da Capo I & II Plus Situation Portable (Kadokawa Shoten)
43. / 40. [PS3] Time Crisis: Razing Storm (Bandai Namco)
44. / 50. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark / Bomber (Level 5)
45. / 42. [PS3] F1 2010 (Codemasters)
46. / 00. [PSP] Dragon Ball Z: Tenkaichi Tag Team (Bandai Namco)
47. / 00. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2nd (Sega)
48. / 00. [NDS] Harvest Moon: Twin Villages (Marvelous Entertainment)
49. / 00. [PSP] ToraDora Portable! [PSP the Best] (Bandai Namco)
50. / 00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 [Reprint] (Square Enix)

00. / 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) - 736.923 / 48.555.177 (-43%)


NDS - 14
PSP - 13
PS3 - 13
WII - 7
360 - 2
PS2 - 1

 

[duckroll]

I wonder what Zack and Ombra's total is so far. 6k? Maybe it'll have legs.

 

[Spiegel]

Peace Walker refuses to leave the top 50.

I thought this week would be gone for the first time because it was #49 last week, but now I see it has climbed to #35.

It must be nearing 770-80k at the very least (+ a few thousand digital sales I guess) because it left the top ten with 712k and it has been 21 weeks since that happened. That would also mean that it has sold the first shipment (764k).

 

[cvxfreak]

Peace Walker refuses to leave the top 50.

Rightfully so. It's only ¥2480 at many big stores now.

 

[duckroll]

Overall I'm still pretty disappointed at Peace Walker's sales performance. The critical acclaim and word of mouth didn't really contribute to very solid sales at all. It performed pretty much on par with all the other Kojima installments of MGS in Japan, which means a total failure in expanding the user base in any significant way. It totally bombed outside of Japan so it's basically Kojima's biggest MGS flop ever when international sales are taken into account.

Really disappointing all round.

 

[Spiegel]

Rightfully so. It's only ¥2480 at many big stores now.

But that's the usual for most 6 months old games, no?
I mean costing half of the original price. And not many of them keep charting after that time.

Overall I'm still pretty disappointed at Peace Walker's sales performance. The critical acclaim and word of mouth didn't really contribute to very solid sales at all. It performed pretty much on par with all the other Kojima installments of MGS in Japan, which means a total failure in expanding the user base in any significant way. It totally bombed outside of Japan so it's basically Kojima's biggest MGS flop ever when international sales are taken into account.

Really disappointing all round.

You have to consider that Peace Walker had many changes that could put many traditional fans off. Say the graphic novel cutscenes and breaking the gameplay into small misions. Maybe it expanded the audience (MH fans) but at the cost of some traditional MGS fans.

Outside of Japan? Yeah, megaflop.

But I keep wondering why KP can make 3d cutscenes for MGS3D when they have to redo the graphics but PW only had like one real 3d cutscene.

 

[cvxfreak]

But that's the usual for most 6 months old games, no?
I mean costing half of the original price. And not many of them keep charting after that time.

It's only usual for other bombas, such as Inazuma Eleven 3 or MH3.

The only games that get discounted without qualifying for bomba status are Best Price or PS the Best re-releases.

 

[Spiegel]

It's only usual for other bombas, such as Inazuma Eleven 3 or MH3.

The only games that get discounted without qualifying for bomba status are Best Price or PS the Best re-releases.

So you can't find games released in the same period (Kenka Bancho 4, Dragon Quest Monster Joker 2, Yakuza 4, Hokuto Musou and the likes) for half the original price in stores now?

I thought that was the usual in Japan, but I've not been there so obviously I trust your word.

 

[cvxfreak]

So you can't find games released in the same period (Kenka Bancho 4, Dragon Quest Monster Joker 2, Yakuza 4, Hokuto Musou and the likes) for half the original price in stores now?

I thought that was the usual in Japan, but I've not been there so obviously I trust your word.

Definitely not DQMJ2 or Yakuza 4. Hokuto Musou 360 was in the bomba bin at some point, IIRC. Not sure about Kenka Banchou 4, but I doubt it.

Games only get prematurely discounted if there is clearly a difficulty in selling them otherwise.

 

[duckroll]

You have to consider that Peace Walker had many changes that could put many traditional fans off. Say the graphic novel cutscenes and breaking the gameplay into small misions. Maybe it expanded the audience (MH fans) but at the cost of some traditional MGS fans.

It doesn't matter. You're not "expanding" the audience if you gain new ones at the cost of existing fans. That's not expansion, that's just substitution. Sengoku Musou 3 had this exact same problem. They believe that they did indeed get new audiences into the title, but at the cost of the regular fanbase. The result? Still a bomba.

What's even more important to note is that MGS is a franchise where the overseas sales far outnumber the Japanese sales traditionally. If the Japanese sales for Peace Walker did not grow from the regular sales at all, and it is a total flop outside of Japan, then the entire release can be viewed as a substantial failure.

 

[Spiegel]

Definitely not DQMJ2 or Yakuza 4. Hokuto Musou 360 was in the bomba bin at some point, IIRC. Not sure about Kenka Banchou 4, but I doubt it.

Games only get prematurely discounted if there is clearly a difficulty in selling them otherwise.

Ah, I didn't know that. I thought that after six months or so games had already dropped to a cheaper price due to second hand copies and the release of new games.

Not saying PW followed the same pattern, because it clearly was overshipped at first and was discounted much earlier than that.

It doesn't matter. You're not "expanding" the audience if you gain new ones at the cost of existing fans. That's not expansion, that's just substitution. Sengoku Musou 3 had this exact same problem. They believe that they did indeed get new audiences into the title, but at the cost of the regular fanbase. The result? Still a bomba.

What's even more important to note is that MGS is a franchise where the overseas sales far outnumber the Japanese sales traditionally. If the Japanese sales for Peace Walker did not grow from the regular sales at all, and it is a total flop outside of Japan, then the entire release can be viewed as a substantial failure.

Well, Sengoku Musou sold half of what the previous game sold and didn't include big changes.

Peace Walker was a really big bomba outside of Japan, but common sense makes me thing that they were not expecting MGS4 numbers or even bigger numbers in EU and NA than japanese sales. They were obviously catering the game to the Portable OPS and MH crowd.

 

[duckroll]

Peace Walker was a really big bomba outside of Japan, but common sense makes me thing that they were not expecting MGS4 numbers or even bigger numbers in EU and NA than japanese sales. They were obviously catering the game to the Portable OPS and MH crowd.

Please stop shifting goal posts. Konami expected 3 million worldwide for Peace Walker. It ended up shipping 1.47 million worldwide so far, and the shit sales outside of Japan mean that it will never get another shipment ever. The game is a failure no matter what angle you look at it from.

 

[cvxfreak]

Please stop shifting goal posts. Konami expected 3 million worldwide for Peace Walker. It ended up shipping 1.47 million worldwide so far, and the shit sales outside of Japan mean that it will never get another shipment ever. The game is a failure no matter what angle you look at it from.

Well, technically, he isn't moving anything.

1. They expected 3 million worldwide out of PW. That's below MGS4's 5 million, so they clearly were not expecting MGS4 numbers.
2. They wanted to expand the userbase in Japan, so I guess selling 1 million there would have done just that. Perhaps 900K.
3. That leaves around 1 million apiece for NA and EU/AU. That's also not really "even bigger numbers for EU and NA than japanese sales."

But yes, Peace Walker is bomba. It was supposed to be MGS5. Now we know why they dropped the number. :lol

 

[Chris1964]

Please stop shifting goal posts. Konami expected 3 million worldwide for Peace Walker. It ended up shipping 1.47 million worldwide so far, and the shit sales outside of Japan mean that it will never get another shipment ever. The game is a failure no matter what angle you look at it from.

I think that's the number for Metal Gear series not Peace Walker alone.

 

[duckroll]

Well, if he's not shifting anything, then he's just blind. Because PW is clearly not anywhere near the success it was expected to be in Japan either. It's just a failure all round.

I think that's the number for Metal Gear series not Peace Walker alone.

What other Metal Gear title has sold any significant number of units in this business term?

 

[Kenka]

I think that's the number for Metal Gear series not Peace Walker alone.

You mean it sold less ?

 

[cvxfreak]

Well, if he's not shifting anything, then he's just blind. Because PW is clearly not anywhere near the success it was expected to be in Japan either. It's just a failure all round.

I personally had a problem with the Konami hype machine the game got. I had to cover the game's pre-launch press conference (a month before launch) and again at launch in Japan, and it was just all sorts of ridiculous. Closing down Uniqlo in Harajuku, having launch events in multiple cities, a world tour, music singles, t-shirts, buying a Famitsu perfect, and the whole kitchen sink was just setting their numbers up for disappointment. It's as if Konami didn't have much confidence on the game selling on its own merit.

Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2 was released at the same time, and didn't need this overblown hype machine to back it. And it still sold more than Peace Walker. Peace Walker has never been number one on the charts, yet you think it would have conquered the whole country. :lol

 

[Chris1964]

What other Metal Gear title has sold any significant number of units in this business term?

Metal Gear Solid sells some thousands every quarter even if there aren't new releases.

Q1 2010 Metal Gear: 1.27 million (Q1 2009 0.16 million)

 

[Mockingbird]

I think it has more to do with the series being absent on home consoles for so long. In absolute terms, the performance is not bad. But I agree that, relatively to former entries, numbers have sucked so far. Let's hope it can climb to 300'000 when it is all said and done.

quite a few kids in my school think it doesn't look fun, though a few say they will ask for it for X-mas.

 

[Spiegel]

Well, if he's not shifting anything, then he's just blind. Because PW is clearly not anywhere near the success it was expected to be in Japan either. It's just a failure all round.

Where am I saying it meet expectations? I personally think it sold good in Japan seeing it wasn't a numbered release and had changes that could turn traditional fans off while not having the guarantee that the MH crowd would eat it up.

But knowing the first shipment, it is obvious that Konami expected more.

And everywhere else the game tanked.

I'm just surprised about the game still charting high on the Top 50, six months after its release when it has been on the bomba bin for a long time while not having received the MH/FFXIII 980Y clearance pricedrop.

 

[FINALFANTASYDOG]

Closing down Uniqlo in Harajuku, having launch events in multiple cities, a world tour, music singles, t-shirts, buying a Famitsu perfect, and the whole kitchen sink was just setting their numbers up for disappointment. It's as if Konami didn't have much confidence on the game selling on its own merit.

I think you be better off blaming Kojima productions for those examples, they love their world tours/ being in the spotlight(castlvania is getting similar treatment). They really want to be rock star movie director types.

I actually talked to the producer of the game and they said the Uniqlo party was just a small event due to situations they weren't able to have a huge launch party like they originally wanted.

Spiegel:

Yeah, all games that aren't nintendo that aren't limited distribution can be found 6months later around 50-60% of the original priced used. The only places that re-stock new games after a month or two are the big retailers/toy stores, thus over-supply problems aren't a problem, new game prices don't drop.

 

[cvxfreak]

I actually talked to the producer of the game and they said the Uniqlo party was just a small event due to situations they weren't able to have a huge launch party like they originally wanted.

If that's the only sacrifice they had to made, then I'd say they made it out pretty well. I have to admit though. The food was good enough for me to skip dinner that night. :lol

 

[donny2112]

Famitsu Oct 25-31

01./00. [PSP] God Eater Burst (Namco Bandai Games) - 267,178 / NEW
02./00. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 229,076 / NEW
03./01. [WII] Super Mario Collection Special Pack (Nintendo) - 102,247 / 403,166 (-66%)
04./02. [NDS] Pokemon Black/White (Nintendo/Pokemon Co.) - 60,921 / 4,296,302 (-14%)
05./00. [NDS] Golden Sun: Dark Dawn (Nintendo) - 47,403 / NEW
06./00. [360] Fable III (Microsoft Game Studios) - 25,448 / NEW
07./05. [WII] Kirby's Epic Yarn (Nintendo) - 24,363 / 173,107 (-38%)
08./00. [NDS] Solatorobo: Sore kara Coda e (Namco Bandai Games) - 23,726 / NEW
09./00. [PS2] Hakuouki: Reimeiroku (Idea Factory) - 21,950 / NEW
10./00. [PSP] Dream C Club Portable (D3 Publisher) - 21,418 / NEW

11./10. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 20,652 / 1,098,405 (+6%)
12./03. [PS3] Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 (Namco Bandai Games) - 20,163 / 88,741 (-71%)
13./04. [PS3] Vanquish (SEGA) - 16,015 / 67,720 (-69%)
14./00. [PSP] D.C. I & II P.S.P.: Da Capo I & II Plus Situation Portable (Kadokawa Shoten) - 14,656 / NEW
15./00. [PSP] Shin Koihime Musou: Otome Ryouran * Sangokushi Engi - Wei-Hen (Yeti) - 12,584 / NEW
16./11. [NDS] Kingdom Hearts Re:coded (Square Enix) - 11,078 / 183,883 (-33%)
17./07. [PSP] Lord of Arcana (Square Enix) - 10,735 / 126,199 (-57%)
18./00. [360] Ore no Yome: Anata Dake no Hanayome (Idea Factory) - 10,584 / NEW
19./06. [PS3] Medal of Honor (Electronic Arts Victor) - 9,584 / 35,853 (-64%)
20./16. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (BEST Reprint) (Capcom) - 7,926 / 478,447 (-2%)
21./09. [PS3] Beat Sketch! (SCEI) - 7,293 / 27,458 (-64%)
22./08. [PS3] FIFA 11: World Class Soccer (Electronic Arts Victor) - 5,594 / 27,276 (-74%)
23./00. [PSP] Phantom Brave Portable (Nippon Ichi Software) - 5,342 / NEW
24./14. [PS3] Red Dead Redemption (Rockstar Games) - 5,046 / 106,142 (-48%)
25./25. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle (Namco Bandai Games) - 4,685 / 218,879 (-5%)
26./00. [PSP] Carnage Heart EXA (Artdink) - 4,658 / NEW
27./13. [PS3] Time Crisis: Razing Storm (Big 3 Gun Shooting) (Namco Bandai Games) - 4,653 / 16,233 (-60%)
28./18. [PS3] Sports Champions (SCEI) - 4,584 / 11,692 (-36%)
29./00. [360] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 4,418 / NEW
30./00. [360] Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo (Wheel Country, Sunflower Girl) (5pb) - 4,249 / NEW



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[onken]

Well, if he's not shifting anything, then he's just blind. Because PW is clearly not anywhere near the success it was expected to be in Japan either. It's just a failure all round.

Yep, I am still baffled to this day how they ever thought it was a good idea to move to handheld. It was totally obvious that increased sales in Japan were never going to outweigh the losses internationally. I just hope it was really cheap to make so it wasn't a complete financial disaster.