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GameStop CEO Says Disc Drives Should Be Required On Game Consoles

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Whenever any "chief" officer within a company speaks publicly, you can assume that they're speaking in the best interests of the company. It's no different with Ryan Cohen, the CEO of GameStop, who said that he thinks gaming console makers should be required to include optical disc drives on their systems in a tweet this weekend.

"Big win for consumers," Cohen said, replying to a news story about Apple's move toward USB-C charging and away from its proprietary lightning port. "Consumers have also invested their hard earned money into physical video games. Disk drives should be required on consoles."



Cohen, as the CEO of GameStop, has a vested interest in people buying physical game media alongside accessories. While PC games began to shift toward digital in the early 2000s with the opening of Valve's Steam Store, digital console games only became prevalent with the previous generation of consoles, the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. GamesIndustry.biz noted at the end of 2022 that only about 28% of console game sales were for boxed copies of games, with 72% going toward digital purchases.

Cohen's choice of venue for this sentiment was a bit odd. Apple's shift toward USB-C charging is a result of a push from the European Union for Apple and other mobile device makers to embrace a universal standard for better interoperability and future mitigation of electronic waste from having to regularly replace multiple different kinds of chargers. The standard includes things like smartphones, tablets, cameras, portable speakers, and other small devices, and requires that consumers be allowed to mix and match chargers and charging cables.
The arguments for and against physical sales are very different. Some collectors appreciate the ability to place a copy of the game on their shelf, but more and more games receive massive day-one patches that make an often unplayable game playable.

Increased digital sales are a direct result of gamers buying games directly through the console makers' own digital storefronts, which allows the owners of those storefronts to dictate game prices without worrying about competition from other storefronts. At the same time, gamers still push back against the use of digital storefronts like Epic Games Store and GOG.com, favoring Valve's Steam storefront. Some gamers have nearly 20 years of games purchased through that storefront and see the Steam library as the standard home of PC gaming, with other storefronts fragmenting their libraries and preferred store features.
It's important to note, too, that game consoles are historically the least profitable aspect of console gaming, with game sales and accessories making up a large part of video game-related profits.

And so that's how we get to the CEO of a video game retailer replying to a news story about Apple USB chargers, saying it would be really nice if game-makers were forced to include optical disc drives on consoles so that he can sell more physical games. GameStop as a corporate entity has not commented on Cohen's tweets, but we assume the company would also really like it if people bought more game discs.
 

Bernoulli

M2 slut
him without disc
Ralph Wiggum Danger GIF
 

Dick Jones

Gold Member
I have no issue with discless consoles provided there is an accessory that people could buy to play discs on the console should they wish at a later stage.

I fear a discless console gen and I mainly have a digital library.

He's right but his reasoning for saying it is not for the greater good, but for himself.
 

Mr.Phoenix

Member
It's all unfortunate I guess.

You really can't make something like disc drives be requirement. It's too easy to accessorize it. The issue, however, is that the second you do that, make it `optional`, then publishers start making physical releases optional too. Then physical releases ultimately become a special/collectors/limited edition type affair.

And that's pretty much it.
 

Ozzie666

Member
Eventually Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo will just sell their consoles directly to consumers, everything will be digital. Gamestop will be reduced to selling Fun Pops, trading cards and clothing. With no physical games or consoles in the stores.

This is exactly what Blockbuster must have been thinking before they went belly up. He's right of course about physical media, just lieing about the reasons. $$$
 

YOU PC BRO?!

Gold Member
I’ll switch to digital when I can sell/trade in my game software licence. When I can transfer it to my friends and have it transferred back in turn.

Remember when they told us digital would be cheaper as there were no associated manufacturing or shipping costs? How did that turn out? The number of games I’ve picked up physically at a fraction of the cost of digital is absurd. When you sell a physical copy you are competing against other outlets selling the same product, there is incentive to consistently lower prices. I’ve traded a few finished games into a local video game store and picked up new releases and peripherals at no extra cost. Physical remains the cheapest way to play and it’s not even close.

Microsoft or Sony have a responsibility to champion us consumers, to duplicate the physical experience and integrate such a system into their ecosystems. Anything less is unacceptable and should be denounced. Gamers should be placing huge pressure on these companies to be as pro consumer as possible, especially considering the inevitable shift to digital only.

Something tells me Nintendo will be the last show in town.
 

Mephisto40

Member
Annnnnd is that bad?
It's not really a bad thing, it's just a dying market

When almost 90% of all game sales are digital nowadays, it really is getting to the point where physical may as well be phased out

I bought a PS5 with the disc drive, looking back I've used the drive for two games this gen, demons souls on release, and for a game a family member bought for me

Unfortunatley for companies like Gamestop, when this choice is made, they will go out of business over night
 
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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
He is right, I also think any game that bares the logo should be playable too (with the obvious exception of older hardware)
 
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ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Of course he will say that. I am sorry but console folks will ditch discs soon and follow PC in embracing digital as well.
 

DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
Staff Member
The sad fact is that the writing is on the wall. I am all for having physical games but honestly whats the point if said physical game is unplayable in 10 years due to patches and updates no longer being available? It made sense when the entire game was on teh cart/disc without updates that needed to be downloaded.
 

K2D

Banned
Game disc would make sense if a full, patched game would be printed on it. But that's not the case. I have physical copy of Cyberpunk 2077 for Xbox. It's useless without newest patches.
Gamestop and the like couldn't care less if they sold you empty game discs with download links.

Edit: Even still. I want a physical drive.
 
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ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
The sad fact is that the writing is on the wall. I am all for having physical games but honestly whats the point if said physical game is unplayable in 10 years due to patches and updates no longer being available? It made sense when the entire game was on teh cart/disc without updates that needed to be downloaded.

Dont forget console will eventually deteriorate too, not to mention incompatibility with the TV or cables in the future. And out of print 2nd hand disc will be very expensive to buy.

Which means you’ll have to invest with adapters and converters which is pretty clanky.
 

Majormaxxx

Member
It's not really a bad thing, it's just a dying market

When almost 90% of all game sales are digital nowadays, it really is getting to the point where physical may as well be phased out

I bought a PS5 with the disc drive, looking back I've used the drive for two games this gen, demons souls on release, and for a game a family member bought for me

Unfortunatley for companies like Gamestop, when this choice is made, they will go out of business over night
Disc games have better prices. Especially on Sony platforms.
 

Majormaxxx

Member
Dont forget console will eventually deteriorate too, not to mention incompatibility with the TV or cables in the future. And out of print 2nd hand disc will be very expensive to buy.

Which means you’ll have to invest with adapters and converters which is pretty clanky.
By the time ps5 is compatible we'll not be playing games for one reason or another...
 

Northeastmonk

Gold Member
GameStop is in the business for GameStop. Used game sales only profit their business model, not the industry. I also agree that having a disc for a lot of games is pointless. Not having a manual makes inside the case look even worse.
 
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