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At what point will you give up pc builds? A Cloud gaming discussion
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Ulysses 31
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Wildebeest
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The sort of games that are playable on cloud without being insufferable are also the type of games you can play on ten-year-old PC hardware.
recursive
Member
And mod them. I have no interest in cloud gaming.
you're not a real pc gamer then
Tams
Member
Never.
It took 20 years to go from dial-up to 30mbps where I live, and due to not being close to any exchanges, latency is bad enough just playing multiplayer running the game locally.
The factor in it being yet another damn subscription going out every month or yearly, and that the companies could take away my access any time they damn well liked... yeah, no.
Plus, I like technology side of computers, not dumb, bland boxes for Internet access.
It took 20 years to go from dial-up to 30mbps where I live, and due to not being close to any exchanges, latency is bad enough just playing multiplayer running the game locally.
The factor in it being yet another damn subscription going out every month or yearly, and that the companies could take away my access any time they damn well liked... yeah, no.
Plus, I like technology side of computers, not dumb, bland boxes for Internet access.
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cinnamonandgravy
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no physical games
no physical hardware
no physical controllers
no physical underwear
no physical hardware
no physical controllers
no physical underwear
Orenji Neko
Member
never。
i copy all classic game i own to PC to emulate。msx fc sfc pce md with more。they are mine。
if new game become cloud then i am finish with new game。i have lifetime of old game to play happy if cloud only happen。
i copy all classic game i own to PC to emulate。msx fc sfc pce md with more。they are mine。
if new game become cloud then i am finish with new game。i have lifetime of old game to play happy if cloud only happen。
rm082e
Member
For me, this is a big fat "NEVER!"
The very nature of cloud gaming adds a variable latency to the controls. That means an inconsistent experience, which I have no patience for. I tried PSNow a few years ago, it was so bad the service croaked less than a minute into the game and said my connection wasn't good enough. The game was an unplayable slide-show with more than 1 second of delay between input and reaction on screen. I looked up a server map and my data was going almost 300 miles to hit the server, so 600 mile round trip. It's just not possible to eliminate all that latency compared to using an interface that has a 6' USB cable on my local hardware.
Also, being reliant on an internet connection to play games is a deal breaker for me. I accept this risk for some live service games, but I almost never play those types of games. 98% of my time is spent on single player stuff. I did buy Diablo 4 and launch, and I knew full well it was an always online game. Several times I went to play and there was a server problem. I accepted that because I knew it was part of the deal going in. But I'm never going to rely on a platform that requires me to have an internet connection to play my single player games.
I do buy games digitally on PlayStation and PC, but there's a world of difference to me between downloading a game that I can play on my local hardware without internet, and having to maintain a constant internet connection to play my single player game.
A.Romero
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As soon as I can emulate the experience I get on PC, I'd give it a chance.
I used GeForceNow a few years back with a Shield (it was free, I think). It was interesting but the experience wasn't even close.
During the pandemic my GPU got fucked and getting a hold of one was impossible so I turned to XCloud and it was pretty cool, tried The Ascent for example. However, when I got a hold of a GPU later on, I installed The Ascent and it was night and day. I couldn't believe how much detail and quality I was missing.
I really doubt it will ever be possible to do it with the same amount of latency as it is local but if it is possible why not. It's always better to have options.
I used GeForceNow a few years back with a Shield (it was free, I think). It was interesting but the experience wasn't even close.
During the pandemic my GPU got fucked and getting a hold of one was impossible so I turned to XCloud and it was pretty cool, tried The Ascent for example. However, when I got a hold of a GPU later on, I installed The Ascent and it was night and day. I couldn't believe how much detail and quality I was missing.
I really doubt it will ever be possible to do it with the same amount of latency as it is local but if it is possible why not. It's always better to have options.
midasmulligan
Member
This year, GeForce now is incredible as far as my experience is concerned
Men_in_Boxes
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Don't listen to these people OP.
As soon as the advantages outweigh the negatives we'll all switch. People are horrendous at predicting the future.
As soon as the advantages outweigh the negatives we'll all switch. People are horrendous at predicting the future.
Guilty_AI
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That's the problem. All the way down to a conceptual level, cloud gaming has barely any advantages.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Too many experts in the field investing too many resources to have confidence in that.
Guilty_AI
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Cause we all know each and every CEO has a degree in clairvoyance, are immune to getting swept away by trends and don't commit any mistakes whatsoever.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Who has a degree in clairvoyance and immune to being swept away by trends?
CEOs or gamers?
StereoVsn
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Cloud means worse image quality, latency, no mods, no cheat tables, no way to control pretty much anything. Yeah, I'll skip that. Plus GeForce Now only has a portion of available games on Steam.
I don't see my mindset changing, because the alternative is to run full on VM you can control in a cloud and that gets pricey and still won't help with latency or image quality.
I don't see my mindset changing, because the alternative is to run full on VM you can control in a cloud and that gets pricey and still won't help with latency or image quality.
Guilty_AI
Member
Lets do it like this them
Why would i, as a costumer, use a cloud gaming service?
Sell me on it.
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cortadew
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you are like the rich people who claim "money doesn't matter"
Fbh
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I think I live too far away from anywhere relevant for streaming to ever be a valid option for me. My country probably isn't important enough to get servers, and even if we did they'd be in the capital which is over 1000 miles away from here, not sure how viable that is for game streaming.
Also I don't like what it means for game ownership. Digital is already bad enough and we don't have a choice on PC, but at least the files are still on my PC and there are some DRM free options. Streaming is a whole different beast.
Also I don't like what it means for game ownership. Digital is already bad enough and we don't have a choice on PC, but at least the files are still on my PC and there are some DRM free options. Streaming is a whole different beast.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
First I have to sell you on multiplayer...then we'll get ya to the cloud.
Guilty_AI
Member
Unfortunately you'll fail then, because... i don't like multiplayer. You can't sell a heater to people in a tropical island where the temp never goes below 25°C.
DirtyBast8rd
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I will never ever, ever switch to cloud gaming. Digital on pc is the last stop for me.
Puscifer
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Not to mention that there's been enough shit happening with digital platforms in the last year with games and movies that I trust none of these platforms minus Steam
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THE DUCK
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Relax, they took away free will already so nothing lost.
As far as pc cloud gaming goes, I'd gave to give geforce now another try, my previous attempts years ago would be a hard no. It's appealing though the idea of not needing to update hardware.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Hint: NeoGAF is multiplayer.
Guilty_AI
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Hint: NeoGAF isn't a game
Dorfdad
Gold Member
give geforce now a try again and you might be surprised how fast and more mature the client is now compared to consoles and most PC's
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Our brain doesn't know the difference. It's all entertainment in the social realm.
DownLikeBCPowder
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Never, the idea of relying on some cloud service and owning literally nothing is patently ridiculous to me.
Kumomeme
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never. even if Cloud become a norm, it dont think i would ditch PC building even if younger kid gonna call me old school.
there is fun and charm in building own PC and honestly i dont think it would go away. certain part of industry aside general consumer, country or usage might still prefer that and even if Cloud gonna end up as a norm, i say it still not gonna replace everything. 'offline' hardware would still be there as option and even requirement on certain case. even if the market end up shrinking.
there is fun and charm in building own PC and honestly i dont think it would go away. certain part of industry aside general consumer, country or usage might still prefer that and even if Cloud gonna end up as a norm, i say it still not gonna replace everything. 'offline' hardware would still be there as option and even requirement on certain case. even if the market end up shrinking.
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Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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when they break the laws of physics and solve latency issue.
Demigod Mac
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Tried the supposedly "best of the best" (GeForce Now over a fiber connection with nearby servers) and I still can't stand the input lag and muddied image quality of cloud gaming compared to local.
LarsQMorient
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GeForce NOW, xCloud, and Amazon Luna are all available on some smart TVs.
https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/games-apps/cloud-gaming/verified-devices-for-xbox-cloud-gaming
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/system-reqs/#smart-tv
Amazon Luna Compatible Devices and Browsers - Amazon Customer Service
Check if your device and operating system support Luna gameplay.
www.amazon.com
dcx4610
Member
Never. The fun of building a powerful PC is knowing that your hardware is running it. I have zero interest in having someone's else computer run a game and stream it down to me.
Maybe I'd change my mind if we got to a point where you have supercomputers rendering the game and internet was so fast that streaming was imperceptible to playing a game locally. Until/if that happens, nope.
Maybe I'd change my mind if we got to a point where you have supercomputers rendering the game and internet was so fast that streaming was imperceptible to playing a game locally. Until/if that happens, nope.
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