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[ManaByte]

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When Warners announced in February that celebrated author Ta-Nehisi Coates is writing the screenplay and Abrams is producing, it did not address the matter of helming. But insiders say Warners and DC are committed to hiring a Black director to tackle what will be the first cinematic incarnation of Superman featuring a Black actor, with one source adding that putting Abrams at the helm would be “tone-deaf.”

DC sees its upcoming Flash movie, which began production in April in London, as its way forward in this post-Snyder world. With the inclusion of such characters as Supergirl (Sasha Calle) and Michael Keaton’s Batman, one thing Flash does is set up DC with a multiverse that allows for many of these incarnations and story universes to co-exist and have superheroes interact. So far, every movie and TV show, with the exception of Matt Reeves’ The Batman, starring Robert Pattinson and set for release in March, HBO Max’s spinoff Gotham PD, and Joker and its planned sequel, will take place in the same universe.

The Superman film appears to be moving onto its own track and won’t be part of the universe, as of now. Sources tell THR that Coates is crafting a Kal-El in the vein of the original Superman comics and will have the protagonist hail from Krypton and come to Earth. While the story is currently being crafted and many details could change, one option under consideration is for the film to be a 20th century period piece.

Of course people aren't happy about this.

 

[sackings]

DC continues to be a clusterfuck, what a surprise

 

[The_Mighty_X]

Trying to make everyone happy usually results in making no one happy

 

[Azurro]

Ah, more shit from the activists in Hollywood. They can go fuck themselves.

 

[SJRB]

Of course he is going to be black.

*sigh*

Because that's what's REALLY important, after all. An inclusive Superman that's deliberately made not-white. Inclusivity for all! (Except white people, they can go fuck themselves)

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Ok, I have an bold idea for white people. You give black Superman for a movie in exchange for a white shaft for 3 movies!!!??!?!?

 

[CloudNull]

I don't care what color of skin Batman is but why the fuck is The Batman and Joker not part of the DCEU. I am having a hard time keeping it all straight and the movies aren't even out.

 

[Reality Czar]

Lol first Into the Spider-Verse has to go to another dimension to find a black Spider-Man. Now we go to a new universe for a black Superman.

I would have more respect for these race hustling hacks if they stuck to their guns. Just make the main real superhero black and quit bluffing.

 

[ManaByte]

I don't care what color of skin Batman is but why the fuck is The Batman and Joker not part of the DCEU. I am having a hard time keeping it all straight and the movies aren't even out.

Because The Batman is set in present day and would clash with Batfleck/Keaton in The Flash. Joker I don't see why has to be separate since it's set in the 80s. They could say there are multiple Jokers like in the comics.

 

[Nester99]

it all so tiresome.

 

[ThatStupidLion]

Ok, I have an bold idea for white people. You give black Superman for a movie in exchange for a white shaft for 3 movies!!!??!?!?

you can have one black Superman movie for 3 asian Shaft movies for a latina Enter The Dragon for a duo of pacific islanders in a new harold and kumar movie, indians get a new caddy shack and vacation movie, native americans get a braveheart remake, and white people can voice the crows in a new dumbo, except the crows are now pigeons.

 

[LordCBH]

Ok instead of changing Superman, why can’t we get films for the awesome black characters in dc? Where my fuckin static shock film or John Stewart green lantern film.

 

[Jon Neu]

Nothing political about it, guise.

 

[ManaByte]

Where my fuckin static shock film or John Stewart green lantern film.

They're doing both of those.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

you can have one black Superman movie for 3 asian Shaft movies for a latina Enter The Dragon for a duo of pacific islanders in a new harold and kumar movie, indians get a new caddy shack and vacation movie, native americans get a braveheart remake, and white people can voice the crows in a new dumbo, except the crows are now pigeons.

Porgress! That's how you get things done folks!

 

[BaneIsPain]

WB and DC mismanaged are soulmates.

 

[LordCBH]

They're doing both of those.

fuck yes!!!

 

[GeekyDad]

I don't keep up with a lot of this stuff. What is this person referring to when saying "a petty grudge"?

I really love Man of Steel. It wasn't perfect, but I thought it was a very strong Superman movie.

 

[YCoCg]

Lol first Into the Spider-Verse has to go to another dimension to find a black Spider-Man

Miles Morales was already a long established character before Spider-Verse though. Kind of odd that you singled out the Black Spider-Man and not the waifu anime or porky pig ones though.

 

[QuantumZebra]

Lol first Into the Spider-Verse has to go to another dimension to find a black Spider-Man. Now we go to a new universe for a black Superman.

I would have more respect for these race hustling hacks if they stuck to their guns. Just make the main real superhero black and quit bluffing.

Um, what?

I think you just exposed your hand here... little bit of racism seeping out?

Miles Morales is IN universe for Spider-Man. He takes over when Peter dies/retires depending on canon.

Spider-Gwen is the alternate reality Spider-Woman... maybe you got confused? Or maybe you used a bad example to prop up your own feelings?

 

[MilkyJoe]

 

[KyoZz]

Why not adapt Calvin Ellis or Val-Zod ??? At least there would be something new to show...
WB is on a trainwreck it's just ridiculous.

 

[ManaByte]

I don't keep up with a lot of this stuff. What is this person referring to when saying "a petty grudge"?

I really love Man of Steel. It wasn't perfect, but I thought it was a very strong Superman movie.

The crowd who are fans of a certain director's movies have a nutbar conspiracy theory that WB is holding a grudge against Cavill.

 

[Nester99]

Why not do a movie about Val-Zod who is already a black Kyrptonian in the comics.

 

[ManaByte]

Why not do a movie about Val-Zod who is already a black Kyrptonian in the comics.

You're forgetting this is JJ Abrams. Who once wrote a Superman movie where Krypton didn't explode, Lex Luthor was Kal-El's evil Kryptonian brother, and Ma Kent had to be raped in front of young Clark to trigger his powers. This is his thing.

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

These superhero stories are almost always shitty and cringe, yet some of yall are only criticizing them for the skin color of the actors. I'm not surprised, just disappointed. Lots of snowflakes on here still.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

More silly shit from DC. Why make yet another "not connected" movie? Do they have any vision whatsoever?

 

[evanft]

Anyone who seethes about the race of Superman should have their Funko Pop collection taken away.

 

[ManaByte]

More silly shit from DC. Why make yet another "not connected" movie? Do they have any vision whatsoever?

Yes, The Flash (which is filming right now) is rebooting the universe. Despite some on the Internet refusing to believe it. There's a plan that they have for things after The Flash cleans things up and they just gave JJ Abrams $500M to basically be their Feige (along with Christina Hodson who is writing The Flash).

 

[GeekyDad]

...Do they have any vision whatsoever?

 

[Evil Calvin]

Why can't they just cast POC as a new super hero? What would happen if Cavill was cast a Black Panther? All hell would break loose.

 

[KyoZz]

 

[Burning Blade]

What does Warner Brothers have against Henry Cavill? Seems like he was maybe the one actor consistently liked throughout all the Snyderverse movies. Shit, all the females I know love the guy and most guys like him too. Black Supes is fine, but they definitely doing Cavill dirty.

 

[Evil Calvin]

More silly shit from DC. Why make yet another "not connected" movie? Do they have any vision whatsoever?

Just tried to fastrack the DCU without a plan as opposed to following the MCU 11 year plan (the build up to Endgame). Universal Monsters tried to fastrack that too with The Mummy and shoehorning in Dr. Jekyl.

 

[ManaByte]

Is this the article where she said Wonder Woman 1984 would be Flashpoint?

 

[KyoZz]

Bring back those guys

 

[ManaByte]

Bring back those guys

Well the JJ Abrams Superman isn't part of the DCEU so Cavill can still be Superman in the main series. Batfleck is in The Flash (at the beginning of the movie).

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Fine to me. As long as it's a white dude playing Blade in the next movie. Cant have it both ways.

 

[ManaByte]

Fine to me. As long as it's a white dude playing Blade in the next movie. Cant have it both ways.

We got that already.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Why can't they just cast POC as a new super hero? What would happen if Cavill was cast a Black Panther? All hell would break loose.

Because writers, companies and the vast majority of people who focus on racial stuff wanting this or that are too lazy to come up with new material.

Easy to sit in front of a PC and complain on Twitter for change. But not eager enough to do something yourself being part of the change.

 

[Goro Majima]

I saw a snippet in there about a Joker sequel. Did Joaquin Phoenix and Todd Phillips say they're coming back or did I miss something there?

Why can't they just cast POC as a new super hero? What would happen if Cavill was cast a Black Panther? All hell would break loose.

Black Panther made a shit ton of money and they're probably betting that Black Americans will turn out in droves to see a Superman movie with a black lead.

 

[Cravis]

Oh great another Superman origin story coming our way?

 

[ManaByte]

I saw a snippet in there about a Joker sequel. Did Joaquin Phoenix and Todd Phillips say they're coming back or did I miss something there?

‘Joker’ Sequel in the Works From Phillips and Phoenix, but Don’t Expect Batman’s Origins

Phillips will likely return to direct the second "Joker" movie, which won't factor in Batman as some fans predict.

www.indiewire.com

The movie made $1 billion. Enough to send a couple of Brinks trucks to Phoenix's house.

 

[KyoZz]

Is this the article where she said Wonder Woman 1984 would be Flashpoint?

I don't know what you want to say here ? Nobody has a 100% correct track record. Anyway we just have to wait and see.

Well the JJ Abrams Superman isn't part of the DCEU so Cavill can still be Superman in the main series. Batfleck is in The Flash (at the beginning of the movie).

We all know Batfleck is gonna die in The Flash, and if WB wanted more of Cavill Man of Steel 2 would be here already. I mean it's from 2013...
So yeah on paper it's possible, but it won't happen.

 

[LaughingStock]

Ok instead of changing Superman, why can’t we get films for the awesome black characters in dc? Where my fuckin static shock film or John Stewart green lantern film.

They only see white characters as legitimate.

Why can't they just cast POC as a new super hero? What would happen if Cavill was cast a Black Panther? All hell would break loose.

Race bending is a one-way street.

 

[ManaByte]

We all know Batfleck is gonna die in The Flash

I don't think he "dies". He just doesn't exist in the new timeline that results from whatever The Flash does.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You lost me at JJ Abrams.

 

[INC]

Yay more unimaginative superhero films..........lucky us

 

[YCoCg]

You lost me at JJ Abrams.

He's not going to stop until he's diddled all known IPs.

 

[DeepEnigma]

He's not going to stop until he's diddled all known IPs.

It's like a cult.