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Report: Apple to begin production of AR|VR headset in March 2023, announcement in April. 700k initial shipment, partnering with Megatron for assembly
- Thread starter Eddie-Griffin
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Interfectum
Member
Nah that only gets people to buy the device and make it a dust collector.
VR needs to be additive to people's lives. Rollercoaster and monster closet games aren't going to cut it.
tommib
Gold Member
Main focus won’t be games.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
That's what got me in, a refurb quest 2 just before the price increase. Of course I then went and spent a grand on upgrading my computer for VR but that's a different story.
Comandr
Member
I don’t think you understand how augmented reality works. It’s just an overlay. Like a HUD that enhances what you normally see. If anything, you’d be LESS likely to hit anyone because you aren’t looking down at your phone, in fact you’re acutely aware of your surroundings because you’re constantly physically looking around for pokemon.
Why did you land on the watch ultra as your example? Every piece of marketing surrounding the ultra watch advertises it as for a very particular group of customers. And for them, it’s a great device at a great value. Apple sells an extremely capable smart watch for $249. This is like getting mad at Ford for selling a $50,000 car. A fucking car dude. All it does is take you to work and back.
Fuuuuurthermore, because you’re not off the hook yet, the Apple Watch ultra is iconic. They’re easily and instantly recognizable. Love them or hate them, I guarantee you that more people today instantly recognize an Apple Watch versus a Rolex, Seiko or Gucci. The Apple Watch IS a status symbol. It’s undeniable. What that status is, is up to the observer. When you see someone wearing an Apple Watch there is an instant, primal recognition. A switch gets flipped inside of you. $800 is cheap for that kind of effect. You just don’t understand the market at all.
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I believe the first iteration of apple’s AR/VR will be like the Apple Watch ultra. It’ll be expensive compared to similar products and marketed towards certain people. Id guess around $1999-2499 depending on configuration. It’s not going to be for the every man. Can you buy one? Sure. But don’t complain when it’s expensive. I expect a consumer grade version to be around $399 and scaling up with memory and such.
Brace yourselves.
PendekarRajawali
Member
Now I know where Apple gets its technology from.
Tams
Member
No, you've just shown that you have no fucking clue how AR works.
Really, just use a few brain cells and think how any headset is going to work.
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daffyduck
Member
Wouldn't be surprised if Megatron was what someone was thinking when brainstorming the name.
edit: btw, your namesake's toy set was really cool back in the day.
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CherryFalls
Banned
Looks like im going to get into vr than. Anything Apple makes is usually a must have.
aclar00
Member
Sidenote, though i havent really experienced AR outside of eyetoy but i think all next gen sets would benefit from having AR added. It adds a level of variety and potential options to the headsets that wouldnt be there otherwise.
I can see KOJIMA doing some crazy MGS like thing where the VR headset flashes between in game and real world environment where you have to shoot real world objects in your room to take out Mantis, lol.
I can see KOJIMA doing some crazy MGS like thing where the VR headset flashes between in game and real world environment where you have to shoot real world objects in your room to take out Mantis, lol.
This is my thing. If it's coming out so soon shouldn't developera have dev kits by now?
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Wonder what Eyeware partners will be providing frames and prescription lenses. No cheap plastic frames for Apple. Titanium lightweight and shiny.
MacReady13
Member
So if Apple is in on VR like Playstation is, when will Xbox join in?
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PeteBull
Member
Not in a long time, they got no games to support xbox non-vr gaming, not to mention pushing bit chunk of their studios into VR-wastes, apple-vr will share fate of all VR-experiments- aka niche/being "barely" profitable ;D
Again- no matter the price, , specs or even how big company is behind it- only killer game library can make VR popular, nothing else- and for any VR device to have such a library u would need at least 10 top quality dev studios work on such games for few years, till this happens expect to stay in friend zone, vr-enthustasts ;D
Captain Toad
Banned
The price of this is going to make comments complaining about a $550 headset seem hilarious.
Captain Toad
Banned
Sony doesn't consider Microsoft and Nintendo competitors here - they're competing with Apple and Amazon.
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
Yes, people have broke down their production and chip costs, and they often charge more than competitors to make more product beyond what's reasonable.
They have been getting better about this recently, but not due to their actions, but due to prices of everything going up and so are the prices of competitors.
midnightAI
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Jinzo Prime
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Eddie-Griffin
Banned
Apples VR headset may use Rings for motion control via new patent leak.
I am assuming the rings themselves will be sold separately, and cost $100-$200 each, or $15/mo with your carrier for two years.
I get the idea though, make it "feel" like you are touching, grabbing, or pinching an object in VR. But I don't think the tech is there yet and this seems like a gimmick imo.
I am assuming the rings themselves will be sold separately, and cost $100-$200 each, or $15/mo with your carrier for two years.
I get the idea though, make it "feel" like you are touching, grabbing, or pinching an object in VR. But I don't think the tech is there yet and this seems like a gimmick imo.
mckmas8808
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Apple to begin mass production on AR & VR headset in early 2023 | AppleInsider
A new report suggests that Apple may start producing its mixed-reality headset as early as March 2023 and that it could be officially announced the following month.appleinsider.com
Maybe the reason why Sony decided to release the PSVR2 in early 2023 was to beat Apple the whole time?
If the rumor is true, Apple will already start production and have 700,000 units ready with an official announcement in April or late March 2023.
I assume it will be costly but Apple will probably sell it with phone carriers like it does with their Tablets, Watches, and other gizmos, allowing for payment plans. If Ming Chi is right and you can switch between AR and VR it will be an entirely different beats, and if Apple can get it to within a reasonable price (no more than $1000) I can see consumers flocking to this as the new status symbol trend and the headsets will fly off the shelves, lapping Meta twice.
That Apple Logo is going to change everything even if the headset is sub-par. If true I expect from April announcement to end of the year to sell about 6-8 million headsets.
*Pegatron is the assembly partner.
I still don't understand why phone carriers will waste money on footing the bill for this. Why would they?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I think people are overestimating Apple VR’s potential in the marketplace.
A hypothetical $1k Apple VR headset with what games? FTP smartphone style VR games? Apple’s Arcade seems nice, but how invested would they truly be? PC is already entrenched with games, and Quest at least can make use of that.
And you think people would drop $1k on a headset versus half that to buy a Quest 3 or PSVR2? A $1k investment is awfully steep for an item that their cousin has one, and only played for a week or two.
I just don’t see it.
A hypothetical $1k Apple VR headset with what games? FTP smartphone style VR games? Apple’s Arcade seems nice, but how invested would they truly be? PC is already entrenched with games, and Quest at least can make use of that.
And you think people would drop $1k on a headset versus half that to buy a Quest 3 or PSVR2? A $1k investment is awfully steep for an item that their cousin has one, and only played for a week or two.
I just don’t see it.
Kvally
Member
I am sure I will get "down voted" here, but I personally would rather have an AppleBox/AppleStation. I love my iMac, iPhone and Macbook Pro. I am sure the console would cost twice as much as it should and play half the games I want it to....and yet I would still buy it. I am just as wrong as it gets.
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
I think you are mistaking with how the phone carrier payment thing works if you think that phone carries would be "footing" the bill. Phone carries very "rarely" foot the bill, the consumer is still basically paying for the device, and more, and part of that 'more' goes right to the phone carrier, or retailer that's not a phone carrier if they also provide financing.
They won't drop 1K, they will drop $0 down except the taxes and will pay monthly with other added costs over time just like phones.
Although there will be many people who also do drop 1k too because hype and trends.
CobraAB
Member
DigiTimes has been notoriously wrong in past years.
PSVR2 and this thing are totally two different animals. I think the VR part of the headset is more of an extra feature while Apple seems to be of more AR focus.
CobraAB
Member
Not everything they have come out with has been a black buster.
- Original HomePod (though they just came out with a 2nd gen version)
- iPod Hi-Fi
- Apple G4 Cube
- Apple Newton
- Apple Pippen
- Apple eMate
- Apple III
Granted, the last 4 were when Steve Jobs was not at the company.
Speaking of Jobs, its real interesting to imagine where Spple would be product wise right now if he had not gotten sick and passed away.
Giallo Corsa
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I don’t know if the average person wants to be locked into 4-5 years of monthly payments for a VR headset, that probably won’t get a lot of use.
I also don’t think it’s going to be a big hit, unless it brings about some cool AR features that change how we live. This thing can’t just be a device to play videogames or creepy chat. They’ve got to shake up the market.
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Lunarorbit
Member
Why the necrobump?
It could work. Needs software and games. Can't push this shit out without the goods.
It could work. Needs software and games. Can't push this shit out without the goods.
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
I didn't say anything about the PSVR2 being in the Digitimes report.
Neither was he there for the Newton and Homepod, so only G4 Cube and Apple II which was technically not under his direction were failures under his watch directly.
Macs aren't as locked up at they were 15 years ago these days. Even has steam now.
I still wouldn't buy a Mac for gaming unless you buy it for something else and ALSO HAPPEN to decided to do gaming on it.
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
It's going to be 2 years just like everything else. You are greatly misunderstanding how the carriers do things for money.
But I also don't believe it's going to be $3000 anyway.
Ask user mckmas8808
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LordOfChaos
Member
Pegatron is Megatron's brother that's really into pegging
Lunarorbit
Member
When you ask people directly why they necrobump older articles without any relevant new news it doesn't go well.
I'm hoping my general displeasure about it rubs off on other people
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Now is the month when production is "suppose" to happen. Plus I saw it in the "similar threads" at the bottom and was curious of others thoughts nowadays on this. I just can't see why any phone carriers would want to push this device on their monthly plans.