Schmendrick
Member
How mental do you have to be to make a lizard like Kotick sound reasonable?
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Overwatch devs claim Bobby Kotick sabotaged OW2’s Steam launch
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GHG
Member
It seems that OW, Diablo, WoW, and CoD are having a bumpy ride trying to satisfy the core fan base....is that all Bobby's fault?...if so....the moment he steps out the building all issues are going to be fixed?
something is sus to me.
Of course it was Bobby's fault.
It will all be fixed and future games will release to stellar steam reviews now that Phil is in charge
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simpatico
Member
Bubba earlier in this very thread you said that Diablo Immortal was better than Diablo 4. I think we can safely discard your opinions. Bobby Kotick is an American legend. He wrangled these blue haired invalids into one of the most profitable companies in all of gaming. I'd like to see someone else handle people who are unable to even look at a forum and find a way to make their work profitable. That's all Microsoft's problem now and I wish them luck.
killatopak
Gold Member
Review bombing only really works if the work is subpar not terrible. Quality shines through mediocrity. If the work is trash then review bombing isn’t really needed.
It seems that the game is not only trash but also review bombed which is equal parts warranted and undeserved preemptively.
It seems that the game is not only trash but also review bombed which is equal parts warranted and undeserved preemptively.
GHG
Member
Those play times are a lot longer than 5 minutes my friend.
MS bought them to actually start making money.
ManaByte
Gold Member
geary
Member
This guys says he doesn't work at AB anymore? Why did he wait till now to come with this twitter?
And to answer your question, yes, why didn't did this tweet when it happen? I know why, it was the sentiment of self-preservation, but then don't be the white knight when you don't have any skin in it now.
I just don't like people who are brave when don't they know wont suffer the consequences of their bravery. They look like cowards.
He should have not made this tweet at all.
I'm not 100% sure if you're for or against it based on the rest of the comment but I don't have OW1? Nobody does? It's dead.
I don't like 5 v 5, it's completely changed the pace of the game etc. There's a reason many of the people I play with don't anymore.
It can't be for nothing.
They killed one game we played, made another we don't.
Lol sure, then what happened.
Sounds imaginary.
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demigod
Member
Yeah he sounds like a fucking moron. Placing blame on someone else instead of he/himself or whatever the cunt calls himself.
diffusionx
Gold Member
He complains that he gets review bombed, but does not explain why he gets review-bombed.
Maybe don't make a shit game that people hate? Maybe don't lie about your game for years?
Maybe don't make a shit game that people hate? Maybe don't lie about your game for years?
Drizzlehell
Banned
I think it's fair to say that everyone had a part to play in this whole fiasco.
Bobby is for sure to blame for making bad decisions that affected the whole production pipeline for multiple studios, such as cutting development resources and ignoring potential backlash for missing features. Or not doing anything about complete buffoons in leadership positions who couldn't properly manage projects to save their lives. I recognize the line "shit flowing downstream" all too well because I've experienced that kind of incompetence firsthand, and low-level employees who have to do the worst job usually can't do anything about it, otherwise they get the boot. Having to face the music from the community for your leader's incompetent decisions is truly a chef's kiss. Can you blame them for being so bitter about it?
On the other hand, it's also true that Bobby didn't come down to the sweatshop and told the developers to make the game bad. These developers are mostly coasting on Blizzard's past successes and any talent that was there is long gone, making better games as independent devs. If current devs and project leads were good enough to live up to the company's legacy, they'd still at the very least be able to make the best of the situation instead of making garbage and then shedding any accountability and going around blaming others.
Bobby is for sure to blame for making bad decisions that affected the whole production pipeline for multiple studios, such as cutting development resources and ignoring potential backlash for missing features. Or not doing anything about complete buffoons in leadership positions who couldn't properly manage projects to save their lives. I recognize the line "shit flowing downstream" all too well because I've experienced that kind of incompetence firsthand, and low-level employees who have to do the worst job usually can't do anything about it, otherwise they get the boot. Having to face the music from the community for your leader's incompetent decisions is truly a chef's kiss. Can you blame them for being so bitter about it?
On the other hand, it's also true that Bobby didn't come down to the sweatshop and told the developers to make the game bad. These developers are mostly coasting on Blizzard's past successes and any talent that was there is long gone, making better games as independent devs. If current devs and project leads were good enough to live up to the company's legacy, they'd still at the very least be able to make the best of the situation instead of making garbage and then shedding any accountability and going around blaming others.
PuppetMaster
Member
Total backfire on this Andy guy. What an idiot.
balls of snow
Member
I like overwatch 2 and still think it deserve its steam score. Those skin prices are gross.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Review bombing would happen either way as at that time it was a combination of factors - chinese servers being closed due to Netease deal, people hating Blizzard for cancelling campaigns and so on.
I think the mistake was to launch OW2 at all - should have stuck with OW and that's it as no GaaS game launch the second game these days.
I think the mistake was to launch OW2 at all - should have stuck with OW and that's it as no GaaS game launch the second game these days.
King Dazzar
Member
Forgetting the OP specifics for a moment. This is just my general thoughts on Bobby Wanktit in general. We cant have it both ways. Did he run the company or not? He gets a lot of praise for his business acumen and making ABK financially successful. Well it only stands to reason for me that his leadership helped steer the company into the monetary mechanisms of today to fleece gamers for much as they can. And all the ethically questionable related things that have gone on at the company.
It seems that OW, Diablo, WoW, and CoD are having a bumpy ride trying to satisfy the core fan base....is that all Bobby's fault?...if so....the moment he steps out the building all issues are going to be fixed?
something is sus to me.
Does that change with Phil & Booty etc. I think that it'll generally be BAU and appear the same for some considerable time as the train slowly veers off and derails over time. But others have far more faith in the Xbox management team than I do.
Sakura
Member
I don't think any one likes Bobby, but this sounds like bullshit.
Bobby is threatening to have employees killed, but doesn't care to do anything to the employee demanding his termination?
ManaByte
Gold Member
No different than Fortnite or any other F2P shooter.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
So Bobby wanted to kill an employee according to a tweet.
Who knew he spent his fortune hiring hitmen.
Who knew he spent his fortune hiring hitmen.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Overwatch 1 would've been shut down with the loot box laws everyone seemed to love before OW2 came out. The game also wouldn't survive without going F2P.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
He had nothing to do with your shitty sequel.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
What is trash about Overwatch 2?
Hudo
Member
Sure. But they should've just updated the game instead of making Overwatch 2. They tried to oversell a bigger DLC as a brand new game, which I believe was a big-ass marketing error. If they had just kept updating and reworking Overwatch, it wouldn't even have mattered that much that they never delivered on the promised PvE-story campaign stuff, which was one of the big parts of the sales pitch for Overwatch 2.
This whole IP was just mismanaged horribly after they had a very good first year with Overwatch 1.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
It's a F2P game. They weren't selling a client. It's free.
Hudo
Member
I know. But they still made a sales-pitch at their Blizzcon as to why players should be interested and invest time.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Yea because trolls don't ever review bomb games for reasons other than the game itself.
KuraiShidosha
Member
Lmao I'm so glad this is the first post to this thread. That dude's a total bitch. Knowing old Bobby big dick is the reason their games are on Steam makes me like him even more. The fact that it made these soft "men" cry because they had to read Steam reviews is just the cherry on top.
Codes 208
Member
Out of context, a longer playtime would actually validate their opinion further imo. If someone actually put time into something and gives a reasonable reason why they learned they hate it, im more likely to agree with it than a 5min shitpost review
Not in this case though, i definitely believe that most steam reviews are for shits and giggles
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Too many people look at the summary at the top of the page and don't actually look at the reviews to realize it's mostly shitposting.
hyperbertha
Member
Hard to throw a man in a yatch under the bus.
Shits_McGiggles
Member
Can we get complaints from people that actually look and act like sane human beings please?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Came to ask this exact same question.
You knew you were releasing your game on a service where customers have a voice.
And you were begging for help?
Baki
Member
It is. Sounds like they wanted additional staff and exec team said no to additional budget.
He has pronouns listed in his name. That should tell you everything you need to know about him.
geary
Member
If the community team doesnt have to deal with the community, wtf is their job?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
This thing seems pleasant. Imagine this creature standing up in a board meeting and demanding the CEO get fired. I am counting my lucky stars that I don’t work in a field that has been taken over by these fucking lunatics. Working along side this type of person sounds like a goddamn nightmare.
Interfectum
Member
Interfectum
Member
That thing is Phil’s problem now… good luck breh.
This thing seems pleasant. Imagine this creature standing up in a board meeting and demanding the CEO get fired. I am counting my lucky stars that I don’t work in a field that has been taken over by these fucking lunatics. Working along side this type of person sounds like a goddamn nightmare.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Nah it quit activision to make a “gay romance thriller”.
