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[LiquidMetal14]

I finally watched it last night.

One of the best specials I've seen in a while.

What a stupid world we live in.

 

[DarkestHour]

What ?? Since when that word is offensive ? Isn’t that their gender ?
I am honestly not trying to be rude or insulting to them as that. I am not transphobic at all.
Sorry if anyone here got offended. My precious msg was directed ONLY to that bitch.

Tranny is bad the same way as "midgets" is bad.

 

[Phunkydiabetic]

What an ugly dude/ girl or whatever you think you are ( I honestly think you are an alien but that’s just me ) .

Attacking a comedian for making a joke . But it’s ok to make joke about male / females / white or black . But not you, you fucking ugly snowflake. Your can’t handle a joke and want to decompress . Lmao at decompress . I hope you decompress till you vanish. You and people like who in the cancel culture. Go to Reera and cry there along with Jason and the rest of “ whatever you wanna call your self over there “.

thank god not all trannys are like you you ugly mutt

Tell us how you really feel

 

[FunkMiller]

What ?? Since when that word is offensive ? Isn’t that their gender ?
I am honestly not trying to be rude or insulting to them as that. I am not transphobic at all.
Sorry if anyone here got offended. My precious msg was directed ONLY to that bitch.

T***** is up there with N***** and F***** for the transgender community. Don't use it. Use the term 'trans'. That's fine

Or just call individual people who you're calling out 'cunts'. Always works for me

 

[Papacheeks]

What ?? Since when that word is offensive ? Isn’t that their gender ?
I am honestly not trying to be rude or insulting to them as that. I am not transphobic at all.
Sorry if anyone here got offended. My precious msg was directed ONLY to that bitch.

It's in TOS I believe. It's considered a slur. You can just say trans, transgender. The other which you used is considered a slur.

 

[chromhound]

I finally watched it last night.

One of the best specials I've seen in a while.

What a stupid world we live in.

We live in a World where they want us to use the word Latinx lol

 

[Flutta]

He's funny but like... yeah, he should NOT be on Netflix or any platform.

The majority who saw the special loved it. That means there’s a big interest for his stand up. Who are you to dictate what should and should not be on any platform? Hope we get more specials from him in the future.

 

[Soodanim]

T***** is up there with N***** and F***** for the transgender community. Don't use it. Use the term 'trans'. That's fine

Or just call individual people who you're calling out 'cunts'. Always works for me

Nanny and fanny, I get you

I get that it's offensive because of use because experience shapes us and that applies to the language we hear used against us because it can be remind us of abusive/offensive people or attitudes even when it isn't intended as such, but I always think it's strange when a very common word shortening of multi-syllabic words becomes taboo. It would be fine to say "The Uzbeki fella" for an Uzbekistani bloke, but if you applied the same to a Pakistani fella you might get yourself in some trouble. (Again, I know it's because "Paki" was used as an insult to describe so many different nationalities, don't miss my point GAF.)

Same goes for tranny. You might intend for it to be as innocent as asking for a ciggy (cigarette) or any other shortening, but the word has been tainted. I suppose you could always make efforts to stay away from -y shortenings and ask someone for a fag instead. Just not in America.

 

[jason10mm]

It's in TOS I believe. It's considered a slur. You can just say trans, transgender. The other which you used is considered a slur.

T***** is up there with N***** and F***** for the transgender community. Don't use it. Use the term 'trans'. That's fine

Or just call individual people who you're calling out 'cunts'. Always works for me

For now. How long until the "words you can't say" sliding continuum makes "trans" a slur and then retroactively cancels folks using it in the here and now? That's what happened with most of these so called insults. The word itself becomes special and the meaning or intent behind it is lost. Can I say that my car tranny went out, but thank god it was right before the extended warranty expired so I was saved 10K?

I'm curious why those words are even typable on here. I'm on plenty of boards that censor them. Is it to prevent folks from casually throwing them around and relying on the censor to avoid judgement or are they allowed as bait?

 

[Papacheeks]

For now. How long until the "words you can't say" sliding continuum makes "trans" a slur and then retroactively cancels folks using it in the here and now? That's what happened with most of these so called insults. The word itself becomes special and the meaning or intent behind it is lost. Can I say that my car tranny went out, but thank god it was right before the extended warranty expired so I was saved 10K?

I'm curious why those words are even typable on here. I'm on plenty of boards that censor them. Is it to prevent folks from casually throwing them around and relying on the censor to avoid judgement or are they allowed as bait?

I mean you should not call someone the N word nor should you call someone the F word.

Pretty simple. No one is saying you cant say cunt, which I think is a great word because british films you cant go 2 seconds without hearing it and its funny. I mean if you want to go and use slurs then join 4chan. Your acting like this is not proper edicate around other none gaming forums?

I mean I dont use any of that on my Motorcycle/Overclockers/CG Talk forums I am still associated with. And anyone that I've seen use slurs like that have been banned. No one is saying you cant say what you want but there are more proper ways to conduct yourself when speaking your mind.

Which is the point of TOS, your trying to make it welcome for anyone not just people who have no filter.

 

[jason10mm]

My point is that the term "trans" might be fine now, but for how long? The list of language considered insulting, at least by members not deemed to be inside the community, is ever growing. Call a black man a negro or colored today and see what happens. Same with tranny just in the past few years and how long until some trans folks make enough of a stink that 'trans' becomes viewed the same way? So to dogpile someone for using a term that has a variable meaning seems counter productive since there isn't much of a global consensus on a lot of this stuff and terms are often cast in a different light just to make an attack on someone "not in the know".

If I'm reading some early 20th century lit and the term "faggot" comes up and it is clear it's referring to a piece of wood or a cigarette should I censor myself from even uttering the sound?

Cunt is a pretty bad term here in the US, especially when applied to a woman. People have gotten into somewhat serious trouble using it towards women (thinking of the BRCC guy who said it towards a female politician). I seriously doubt ANYONE would use it in casual conversation. Isn't "fanny" pretty juicy language in the UK?

 

[OmegaSupreme]

There was no message other than, “Im a petulant old bitch, how dare you question me. Your punishment is 70 minutes of mostly unfunny garbage.”

Were you literally shaking the whole time watching it?

 

[Jaysen]

Were you literally shaking the whole time watching it?

Are you asking if I have Parkinsons?

 

[FunkMiller]

My point is that the term "trans" might be fine now, but for how long? The list of language considered insulting, at least by members not deemed to be inside the community, is ever growing. Call a black man a negro or colored today and see what happens. Same with tranny just in the past few years and how long until some trans folks make enough of a stink that 'trans' becomes viewed the same way? So to dogpile someone for using a term that has a variable meaning seems counter productive since there isn't much of a global consensus on a lot of this stuff and terms are often cast in a different light just to make an attack on someone "not in the know".

If I'm reading some early 20th century lit and the term "faggot" comes up and it is clear it's referring to a piece of wood or a cigarette should I censor myself from even uttering the sound?

Cunt is a pretty bad term here in the US, especially when applied to a woman. People have gotten into somewhat serious trouble using it towards women (thinking of the BRCC guy who said it towards a female politician). I seriously doubt ANYONE would use it in casual conversation. Isn't "fanny" pretty juicy language in the UK?

Look, ‘tr***y’ is - and always has been - a derogatory and hateful term used at transgender people. If you use it, you’re a cunt.

And cunt is an insult used at both sexes everywhere other than the US. Never visit Australia or the UK. It’s used in conversation here all the fucking time - mainly aimed at men. Fanny means vagina. It’s really not that bad a word.

Tr***y is universally bigoted and hateful when used to refer to transgender people. The same as f****t is when referring to gay people.

Accept it. Don’t use them.

 

[jason10mm]

Look, ‘tr***y’ is - and always has been - a derogatory and hateful term used at transgender people. If you use it, you’re a cunt.

And cunt is an insult used at both sexes everywhere other than the US. Never visit Australia or the UK. It’s used in conversation here all the fucking time - mainly aimed at men. Fanny means vagina. It’s really not that bad a word.

Tr***y is universally bigoted and hateful when used to refer to transgender people. The same as f****t is when referring to gay people.

Accept it. Don’t use them.

Come to the US and call a woman a cunt, see how well that goes for you. And everyone knows a fanny is a nice ass, why you guys gotta be so gross?

So, to be clear, you are ok with tranny when it refers to a car transmission and faggot if it refers to a cig or stick of wood? And are these terms acceptable if used within their respective communities towards each other? Who makes these rules about words and when will "trans" become an outsider insult as well (given the long history of abbreviated words turning into insults [see "jap", "paki", "chink" and probably a bunch more I'm forgetting and only list out to be clear in this academic discussion])?

Anyway, its a bit of a silly discussion for adults. Probably save us all a lot of trouble if the forums auto-censored them but whatevs.

 

[zeorhymer]

Come to the US and call a woman a cunt, see how well that goes for you. And everyone knows a fanny is a nice ass, why you guys gotta be so gross?

So, to be clear, you are ok with tranny when it refers to a car transmission and faggot if it refers to a cig or stick of wood? And are these terms acceptable if used within their respective communities towards each other? Who makes these rules about words and when will "trans" become an outsider insult as well (given the long history of abbreviated words turning into insults [see "jap", "paki", "chink" and probably a bunch more I'm forgetting and only list out to be clear in this academic discussion])?

Anyway, its a bit of a silly discussion for adults. Probably save us all a lot of trouble if the forums auto-censored them but whatevs.

Context is lost on a lot of people. Goalposts are always moving. The only way to win is to not play their game.

 

[FunkMiller]

Come to the US and call a woman a cunt, see how well that goes for you. And everyone knows a fanny is a nice ass, why you guys gotta be so gross?

So, to be clear, you are ok with tranny when it refers to a car transmission and faggot if it refers to a cig or stick of wood? And are these terms acceptable if used within their respective communities towards each other? Who makes these rules about words and when will "trans" become an outsider insult as well (given the long history of abbreviated words turning into insults [see "jap", "paki", "chink" and probably a bunch more I'm forgetting and only list out to be clear in this academic discussion])?

Anyway, its a bit of a silly discussion for adults. Probably save us all a lot of trouble if the forums auto-censored them but whatevs.

Do you really need to be told that the context of how you use a word is important?

 

[jason10mm]

Do you really need to be told that the context of how you use a word is important?

Sure. You won't even type out the complete word. If you can't even write it, in the context of NOT using it in a derogatory fashion, then the context of the word clearly doesn't really matter, does it? Just answer my questions with a simple yes/no. Here, I'll repeat it in the manner you prefer so you can quote it safely

So, to be clear, you are ok with tr****y when it refers to a car transmission and f****t if it refers to a cig or stick of wood? And are these terms acceptable if used within their respective communities towards each other? Who makes these rules about words and when will "trans" become an outsider insult as well (given the long history of abbreviated words turning into insults [see "j*p", "p**i", "c***k" and probably a bunch more I'm forgetting and only list out to be clear in this academic discussion])?

 

[FunkMiller]

Sure. You won't even type out the complete word. If you can't even write it, in the context of NOT using it in a derogatory fashion, then the context of the word clearly doesn't really matter, does it? Just answer my questions with a simple yes/no. Here, I'll repeat it in the manner you prefer so you can quote it safely

So, to be clear, you are ok with tr****y when it refers to a car transmission and f****t if it refers to a cig or stick of wood? And are these terms acceptable if used within their respective communities towards each other? Who makes these rules about words and when will "trans" become an outsider insult as well (given the long history of abbreviated words turning into insults [see "j*p", "p**i", "c***k" and probably a bunch more I'm forgetting and only list out to be clear in this academic discussion])?

As I say, context is everything.

Look, you want to be able to use those slurs. That’s quite clear. Not a lot of point in me continuing this conversation. You use whatever words you like in whatever context you like, and see where that gets you

 

[Ionian]

I always thought he was Irish.

Fanny here means vagina, was hilarious hearing about fanny-packs as a kids, Even bum-bag was enough for a laugh as worn on the front (which here bum means ass).

Fag is a cigarette and people still use it non-offensively although far less connon as some do use it offensively. Decent people realised this over time and stopped. Hell even some gay people refer to them as one.

As the previous poster pointed out, context truly is everything. Language and meaning evolves and adapts for social situations, as it should.

I can't imagine anyone I know applauding the use of 'tranny', but I don't hang around people who would.

Stop being so brittle. Do some homework on the terms.

Edit: another example, Americans say St. Paddy's/Patty's day. That can be offensive to Irish people as was and still is used as a derogatory term against Irish people. Again, educate yourself.

 

[dcll]

 

[darrylgorn]

Well he did say he was a terf.

 

[belmarduk]

Well he did say he was a terf.

He said a lot of things. Its comedy.

 

[belmarduk]

Tomorrow is the day of the big walk out!!

Hopefully we'll get a response from GOAT on all of this!

 

[KingGhidorah]

please stop posting his face every time ....my stomach is strong, but not that strong LOL

 

[belmarduk]

please stop posting his face every time ....my stomach is strong, but not that strong LOL

Here she is out with the girls:

Nice tits!

 

[CGiRanger]

Here she is out with the girls:

Nice tits!

Only response (and one being made for sure in most of the world)

 

[Cyberpunkd]

 

[SJRB]

It's these kind of responses to even the slightest of jokes that makes the trans community insufferable.

All of this for a group that represents 0.3% of the population. Please stop giving these people the attention they crave for so much. I understand that power is addicting but trying to destroy someone's life over a joke makes you a trash human being, regardless of your skin color, sex, gender of whatever it is you identify as.

 

[DragoonKain]

I don't know if it's just a small sample size, but I've noticed that trans women who look legitimately sexy never seem to care about this kinda stuff, it's always the trans women who look like Buffalo Bill.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I don't know if it's just a small sample size, but I've noticed that trans women who look legitimately sexy never seem to care about this kinda stuff, it's always the trans women who look like Buffalo Bill.

100% true correlation.

Typically the better looking someone is (doesn't even matter if man/woman, straight or where they fit in the LBQT group), the more outgoing, personable, looks better, dress better they are. They arent holed up on Twitter all night complaining about social injustice acting weird, wearing dirty tshirts and getting pink hair.

It's basically a snowball effect of some sort too.

The weirder you are, the more you hang with weird people. And then it's like a competition of who looks or acts the weirdest. I guess no different than good looking people. The good looking ones always know if they are good looking and amp it up with acting sexy, dressing slick and being flirty knowing full well when to do it and when not to. And then it's a competition for some of who can be the hottest.

 

[DragoonKain]

100% true correlation.

Typically the better looking someone is (doesn't even matter if man/woman, straight or where they fit in the LBQT group), the more outgoing, personable, looks better, dress better they are. They arent holed up on Twitter all night complaining about social injustice acting weird, wearing dirty tshirts and getting pink hair.

It's basically a snowball effect of some sort too.

The weirder you are, the more you hang with weird people. And then it's like a competition of who looks or acts the weirdest. I guess no different than good looking people. The good looking ones always know if they are good looking and amp it up with acting sexy, dressing slick and being flirty knowing full well when to do it and when not to. And then it's a competition for some of who can be the hottest.

And I think trans women who don't look so great may have a deep self-loathing, and after years of self-loathing develops a narcissism and entitlement as a defense mechanism where they need to try and have society pander to them because they feel they're owed x, y, and z.

But trans women who look good and have their shit together probably are much more self-confident and have very little insecurities so they don't care what other people think about them and let this stuff kinda roll off their back.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

And I think trans women who don't look so great may have a deep self-loathing, and after years of self-loathing develops a narcissism and entitlement as a defense mechanism where they need to try and have society pander to them because they feel they're owed x, y, and z.

But trans women who look good and have their shit together probably are much more self-confident and have very little insecurities so they don't care what other people think about them and let this stuff kinda roll off their back.

That's the thing. Confidence. And unfortunately it's something many people lack. In life, people got to get over worrying what other people think to impress and dont be jealous. Just do what you do and dont complain. I'm not saying act like a smelly slob, but just be chill and respectful.

If a trans person dolls up and looks good and loves it, good on them for confidence.

But you dont even have to be good looking either.

I'm an average looking fat guy probably 40 lbs overweight. Aside from occasional spurts of activity (like once every 3 years where I run at half speed vs decades ago) I havent been active in sports since university, and there is zero way anyone would claim I'm a slick dresser even though sometimes I do my best buying clothes that I think look good. But my shirt looks retarded puffed out due to my gut.

I dont give a shit. I'll still do it since I want to look decent at the office or at a nice dinner. I dont want to look like a dirty slob, but I'm not going to lash out at the world hating the world or people who look better than me. If anything, if you got it, flaunt it!

 

[John Bilbo]

Somehow this reminds me of that Clayton Bigsby skit

 

[OmegaSupreme]

So white privilege is the blanket term given to any sort of phobia or ism now regardless of race? That's fucking stupid. Anyone who agrees with that is fucking stupid.

 

[Clear]

Some people just respond badly to anything or anyone "different".

This is the root of all prejudice and bigotry. Not jokes.

 

[John Bilbo]

So white privilege is the blanket term given to any sort of phobia or ism now regardless of race? That's fucking stupid. Anyone who agrees with that is fucking stupid.

It is about controlling speech, no matter the race.

 

[darrylgorn]

He said a lot of things. Its comedy.

Yes, it's funny that he thinks all trans people are white lol

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Yes, it's funny that he thinks all trans people are white lol

The majority are. Certainly the loud twitter types.

 

[darrylgorn]

The majority are. Certainly the loud twitter types.

Apparently, the majority of trans people are black according to this:

How Many Adults and Youth Identify as Transgender in the United States?

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu

But that was just a quick google search, so I can't vouch for the legitimacy.

Either way, throwing them under the bus is comedy gold.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Apparently, the majority of trans people are black according to this:

How Many Adults and Youth Identify as Transgender in the United States?

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu

But that was just a quick google search, so I can't vouch for the legitimacy.

Either way, throwing them under the bus is comedy gold.

Agreed.

 

[DeepBreath87]

Well he did say he was a terf.

Most people are TERFs in reality. Only a very small number of delusional people actually believe men can be women. They just say the approved words to avoid the discussion because it’s easier than dealing with deranged lunatics, like we are seeing in this circumstance.

 

[darrylgorn]

Most people are not terfs. That's like saying most people like the KKK lol

 

[belmarduk]

Yes, it's funny that he thinks all trans people are white lol

You obviously didn't watch his show. One of the first things displayed in the credits is a Black Trans Lives Matter banner.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

You obviously didn't watch his show. One of the first things displayed in the credits is a Black Trans Lives Matter banner.

I don't think anyone who is complaining actually watched it.

 

[darrylgorn]

You obviously didn't watch his show. One of the first things displayed in the credits is a Black Trans Lives Matter banner.

And?

Anyway, it's fine lol

 

[belmarduk]

And?

If he thought all transgender people were white, he would not have put that at the end of his show.

 

[DeepBreath87]

Most people are not terfs. That's like saying most people like the KKK lol

No. TERFs are people that acknowledge the reality men cannot be women. That’s nothing like the KKK. What a ridiculous comparison.

 

[darrylgorn]

If he thought all transgender people were white, he would not have put that at the end of his show.

If you say so. I'm sure he'll clear up all of the misconceptions soon lol

 

[OmegaSupreme]

No. TERFs are people that acknowledge the reality men cannot be women. That’s nothing like the KKK. What a ridiculous comparison.

That's only part of it. Radical feminist is also part of it. I don't think most people would identify as that. I hope not anyway.