‘While it’s true that the more the merrier …’
Narrative of PS5 Exclusivity Hurting Games Countered by New Report - PlayStation LifeStyle
The ongoing narrative of PS5 console exclusivity hurting games continues to be countered by retail sales data.www.playstationlifestyle.net
The scale of the flop of Concord far outmatches any other failed product launch on record. At least with Cyberpunk it eventually was fixed and is now fondly looked at and extremely popular.
And in the end, it will mean very little.
Yeah, I don’t think that’s true.
what did you expect of a site named "playstationlifestyle"?
So what? It's 100% irrelevant to this topic (as it has been for most topics that you people so desperately have to bring it up in). It flopped, Sony will investigate (and likely not replicate). Life goes on.
I think you’re just mad that Sony made a hugely terrible and embarrassing flop. I don’t know why you’re mad, but clearly you are.
Mad? That's usually someone who can't stop bringing something up. Does your life depend on the discussion of Concord?
The comparison for GTA and COD is that they are the largest sellers on the console at this time.
Well, I agree some of their current gen decisions have been head scratchers. True dat.
I asked for actual sales numbers on all platforms. As expected, you provided nothing and therefore could not prove your claim of Japanese games being niche until they released on PC.
Every single one shows LARGE increase in players between their latest major release in a series from the previous release. Consistency and continued releases grow audiences. Exclusives inhibit not only the ability for these titles to truly grow on other platforms... but for publishers themselves to cultivate audiences. Look at FROMSOFT.. The Souls games have grown like crazy on PC.. and their outlier release "Armored Core 6" still did HUGE numbers... because they've built up a rapport with PC gamers over the years. The hype they generate now doesn't just lift up Souls games... it lifts up ALL FROMSOFT games. This is what publishers need to do to cultivate and grow on more platforms. It's not good business to put all of your eggs in one basket.
LMAO... I said "and its not just the sales it misses... but also all the potential sales that can be gained in the future by continued releases. Just look at all the Japanese studios who's first games sold a tiny amount and have since grown leaps and bounds on PC." Which is clearly referring to ON PC... meaning they started off selling small (on PC) and grew (on PC) due to commitment....
Well for From Software, Atlus games or Monster Hunter it's kinda obvious, can't say these games were niche pre-PC, specially MH, but sales are on another dimension now.
I mean she even refuted the headline of the article in her first paragraph. Might as well have just said ‘The headline and what I’m about to write is bullshit but here we go anyway … ‘And if you guys really want to laugh... the author of this bullshit article in the OP... is the same one who wrote THIS article............the literal day before.....
Maybe if she thinks there's a bullshit narrative out there about PS5 exclusivity hurting games... she shouldn't write articles perpetuating it.... with the publishers of games stating "it determined that it would earn higher profits by self-publishing and releasing on as many platforms as possible.... LOL I mean ffs.
Again, no numbers. What are the platform splits? Yes, sales are bigger for those franchises now than they were in the past. Most game series that are of good quality and resonate with the market tend to sell better with each new entry, exclusive or otherwise. How do you think Sony and Nintendo exclusives sell bigger numbers than ever before?
Despite the DS3 being worse than the DS2, the DualSense is easily the best controller ever made. You can't go back to a DS4/DS2 after playing on a DualSense without being disappointed.
Even if they had two of Gates' blank checks instead of just the one, Xbox never had any reason to exist - there's no killer IP that needed Xbox to be realized.
Beyond that, nobody knows exactly what chunk of the would-be gaming market is gaming offline on PS2s and old Nintendo consoles.
It's entirely possible that much of that 22% would've come via PS5 if the PC port didn't exist. Lot of PS5 owners have PCs and the game shipped earlier on PC.
It’s pretty clearly evidence of growth on PC. Which was the claim, not that titles were niche beforehand, just niche on PC.
It's because 'PC' literally just means "any PC" and PCs in modern countries like USA, EU and Japan are ubiquitous to the point of being readily available everywhere from free to very cheap.
Every single one shows LARGE increase in players between their latest major release in a series from the previous release. Consistency and continued releases grow audiences. Exclusives inhibit not only the ability for these titles to truly grow on other platforms... but for publishers themselves to cultivate audiences. Look at FROMSOFT.. The Souls games have grown like crazy on PC.. and their outlier release "Armored Core 6" still did HUGE numbers... because they've built up a rapport with PC gamers over the years. The hype they generate now doesn't just lift up Souls games... it lifts up ALL FROMSOFT games. This is what publishers need to do to cultivate and grow on more platforms. It's not good business to put all of your eggs in one basket.
Sales are increasing, but in Sony's case it kinda peaked last generation, GoW has been doing better with Ragnarok while it seems Horizon FW, TLOU 2 Spiderman 2 are doing the same or slightly worse, with better sales normally on first weeks and a bit worse legs, but the difference in every case is quite small and has nothing to do with at least From Soft games or MH (i'd expect the same with Persona 6).
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said, the growth hits different, back in 2018 when PS4 games were already selling several millions in a month, best selling single player PC game was probably Fallout, but still with less copies sold than on PS4 at least on it's first month/year, in 2020 Cyberpunk set a new record with 7M in a month and 10M in a year, in 2024 Wukong should be at around 20M in 1-2 months, and this i think it's the first year where the biggest hits sold best on PC (Palworld, Wukong or HD2), outside of the yearly sagas, AKA Fifa and CoD which are much bigger on Playstation.
We have no idea where any of those 1st Party games are right now.
We kinda know from leaks and Sony finantials, at least for Horizon FW first 2 years, for Ragnarok as of late 2023 and Spiderman 2 as of mid 2024 more or less yes, same goes for the last generation games
Yes, but that’s all outdated info.
how is this even a thread?
It tells us nothing bad at all, because the leak suggests the exact opposite, for multiple games. Also, I said GT Sport, not 7, which is doing even better, and that was just an example.
1. This isn’t a report it just links the PC to PS5 sales ratio quote for one game from a post on Resetera from a games analyst about sales data.
The rest is conjecture from the article writer.
- For SH2 in Europe: 78% of sales are on PS5 and 22% on PC.
2. The website posting this “report” is called https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/ you think there is any bias?
For Spiderman 2 we know it did 10M in 4 months and 11M in 6 months, while Spiderman 1 did 9M in a bit over 2 months and bit over 13 in 9 months, sales seem pretty similar, maybe a bit slower for SM2 but really close, as for the legs we can't know until late next year or 2026.
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Their top games haven’t declined commercially and we have the leak to work with. PlayStation is at its all time best financially as well.Even sony are projecting a decline in AAA $70 dollar games. This must be based on data they have....So i don't know what else to tell you.
I def agree this isn’t a report though the writer does raise good points (let’s be real: FFXVI didn’t sell much on PC because the game turned out to be a half baked Witcher knock off most people forgot about). We’ll see how Stellar Blade does.1. This isn’t a report it just links the PC to PS5 sales ratio quote for one game from a post on Resetera from a games analyst about sales data.
The rest is conjecture from the article writer.
- For SH2 in Europe: 78% of sales are on PS5 and 22% on PC.
2. The website posting this “report” is called https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/ you think there is any bias?
1. It's not extra 22%. Because in alternative scenario (ps exclusive) some of these 22% would buy game on playstation.
Agree, Sony should go third-party already.
Steam has more exclusives than anyone.
1. In an alternate scenario some of the remaining 78% would buy the game on PC.
Whoo man! DM if you'd like, I can drone on and on about my issues with Nintendo starting around the Gamecube era xDWell, I agree some of their current gen decisions have been head scratchers. True dat.
As I said earlier, I'm sure Concord will be reviewed by whom needs to review it, but at this time, they're continuing to do their thing and, hopefully, not repeat it!
Those games? Nah, can't agree there. Especially not Uncharted, Spider-Man and Horizon. Those three are pretty different in that cluster of games. God of War and Last of Us are closer in style, yes. But, that's also fine. They work!
Btw, that Nintendo discussion. We should have it one day!
Maybe not, but it would have helped.
Its 22% of the total, but the existence of the PC version gave 28% extra sales.
There is no "move". Sony has never had a policy of always reporting first party sales.
Yeah, but sony makes close to 30 billion a year from PlayStation, 200mil loss is part of the risk but i dont think it hurts them as much as we think, thats a necessary risk
