Evolution_1ne
Banned
not stereotype, it's called target market and it was correct
it was fanboys who took to the humorous generalization to support various bullshit talking points on the internet
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Media Create Sales: Week 9, 2013 (Feb 25 - Mar 03)
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not stereotype, it's called target market and it was correct
it was fanboys who took to the humorous generalization to support various bullshit talking points on the internet
I think it had more to do with the DS not being able to handle the games(like MH).
MasterSheen
Member
Well 3DS Golden Week lineup is set, FC + AC is all that is needed. Wii U on the other hand...
The DS's success was not thanks to those three demographics alone.
http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/page-2.html
In this page of its blog, Sinobi talks about this week's releases. Anything interesting said there?
In this page of its blog, Sinobi talks about this week's releases. Anything interesting said there?
With 33 million units sold in Japan there is little chance DS didn't captured most of the demographics available for owning a dedicated handheld system.
We're talking about Western sales though.
Opus Angelorum
Member
I wouldn't expect an early report from Famitsu in regards to PSVita sales unless the numbers are very impressive (100k+). We didn't get one last week after all.
Sorry, only read the post and not what went previously (haven't yet) but the same concept apply to US.
Guess which is the best selling videogame system ever with over 53M units sold.
While younger consumers are surely a big chunk of Nintendo systems demographic, DS sold so much that is silly to think it didn't sold huge amounts to teens and core gamers in late 20 or 30.
DS demographics distribution in US in 2010
http://www.gamasutra.com/db_area/images/feature/4329/nintendo-ds-age-gender-distribution.jpg
Sorry for OT.
EDIT:
re-reading AntMuerte post, I agree with "Humorous generalization. But the demographic breakdown for publishers and creators were probably something like that. "
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Possibly 92k for Vita then? Bet Sony wishes they could have achieved a 100k breaker, but still, thats good news.
Soul Sacrifice driving sales as a jump on point is a good sign too.
Soul Sacrifice driving sales as a jump on point is a good sign too.
I can only infer from what I'd seen on consoles this generation. That is most of these franchises sell more in the West and appeared on 360 despite the dismal sales in Japan. It might also helps that the HD twins are close in power.
michaelius
Banned
92k would be insane.
But that's just one shop (or chain i got ono idea) so probably just statistical noise. I'm still expecting 40-50k (maybe above 50k now)
But that's just one shop (or chain i got ono idea) so probably just statistical noise. I'm still expecting 40-50k (maybe above 50k now)
If it's a 1.5x increase, the only reason I can think was last week sales wasn't the full effects of the price drop plus the appeal of Soul Sacrifice. It's just 1 week apart, people were waiting to get it together with Soul Sacrifice. For that matter, I would love to see both Vita and Wii U picking up as a potential owner in future.
Yes, I think it's an anomaly too.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
EXTRAPOLATE EXTRAPOLATE EXTRAPOLATE.
Keep the faith alive! Rise to Vita Heaven! (probly 50-60k again in reality)
Magicpaint
Member
My expectations for Vita are around the 50k region but I would be pleasantly surprised if it can top last week's numbers (though I kinda doubt it).
Cha
Member
Already mentioned my prediction for Soul Sacrifice. Though, it's difficult to predict how it will affect Vita hardware sales.
Software sells hardware, but SS is a new IP, so could really go either way.
I'm gonna stay ultra positive and say that Vita sales will surpass last weeks numbers. Lets say 70000 units
Software sells hardware, but SS is a new IP, so could really go either way.
I'm gonna stay ultra positive and say that Vita sales will surpass last weeks numbers. Lets say 70000 units
PSP game dev costs were comparable to DS game dev costs from what I've read, and those games' assets could be mostly reused from earlier non-portable iterations of the game. Plenty of PSP games were never localized (and probably never intended to be localized), so arguably western sales don't matter so much.
DragonSworne
Banned
I'll be shocked if PSV rises. I'm predicting 20-30k for this week.
pharmboy044
Member
Yeah, it'll probably around 30K.
Too drastic a fall considering a hardware bundle coming with SS. I'd say 50k.
It had 60k with pricedrop + senran kagura (bundle?) + pso2 bundle + new color.
Now this week it's only SS + ToH-Remake.
50k would be really good then.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Why would you be shocked? It would include a full week of the Vita price cut and includes one of, if not, the biggest releases for the system yet. Not to mention it is coming off of a strong couple of new releases from the previous week and the set up is there for the system to sell more than it did last week. Also there was a new hardware bundle as well.
DragonSworne
Banned
When has a PSV game ever given the PSV substantial hardware sales?
Soul Sacrifice will have to be the first, which is why I'll be shocked if the system sells over 20-30k.
Soul Sacrifice will have to be the first, which is why I'll be shocked if the system sells over 20-30k.
Father_Brain
Banned
Somewhere between 35K and 45K. Anecdote aside, I'd be amazed if it stays above 50K, let alone rises from last week .
Given that last week's bump was only 10K above the Miku bump, I don't buy yet that there's a ton of pent-up demand for the hardware, or that a new IP could have quite as pronounced an impact.
Given that last week's bump was only 10K above the Miku bump, I don't buy yet that there's a ton of pent-up demand for the hardware, or that a new IP could have quite as pronounced an impact.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
P4G and Miku releases saw the vita sales rise by 2-3 times the previous week. Software has moved Vita units before and done so quite well.
Why do you assume Soul Sacrifice is the biggest release for the system yet? Not saying it won't be but that's a bit presomptuous right now.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
While I think there's still a embedded belief in that stereotype, it's also worth noting that basically all these brands have come to 3DS. Hopefully Nintendo's working with the holdouts (like Kojima) to ensure Wii U can also move past this kind of thinking. Particularly since pretty much everything seems to be going in the direction of crossgen multiplatform already, which ideally suits the system short term.
Sure, but this past gen was a bit of an anomaly in that the industry wholesale had essentially already picked their platforms irrespective of market performance. And really, the HD consoles aren't presenting that attractive a base for Japanese software in the west either. The top end AAA blockbusters can still do well enough (though maybe not relative to cost), but sales for the middle and low end Japanese games has basically bottomed out compared to PS1 or PS2.
I don't think there's any real obvious choice for Japanese studios going forward, handhelds rule at home but are declining elsewhere, consoles are the reverse but are also getting more expensive and much more top heavy, PC is essentially digital only and possibly too diversified/foreign/greenlight, mobile demands free to play rethinking to turn a profit and has inherent interface/piracy issues. I think what Japan wants/needs is another FC/SFC/PS1/PS2, and there really just isn't one.
I wasn't talking about low budget, Japan only or Japan oriented releases. I was talking about stuff like MGS Peace Walker, Soulcalibur BD, Kingdom Hearts BBS, etc. All stuff that matters MUCH more on foreign markets than the national one.
The theory was these sorts of franchises would skip Wii U due to western draw. I don't think that theory holds water given PSP's general irrelevance outside Japan.
No, it wouldn't. I don't even really see much of these topics, but I know that Persona and Miku gave boosts to Vita on the week they released.
Persona 4 Golden and Project Diva f.
I think we can go ahead and start moving towards that school of thought since Sony is pushing very hard for this game to suceed with ads, the demo, future DLC, etc. Since they know it will be quite some time before they even have a chance to get MH back onto the platform, they want to homegrow their own game. If this thing outsells P4G and HM, it will be a major victory for them especially considering it's a new IP. Do I see it happening? Not really but at this point, we'll take what we can get.
DragonSworne
Banned
PSV sold 35k the week Persona came out and it sold 50k the week Milu came out.
These were following low sales number for the previous week.
I just don't see that many people holding out for SS when the price drop came a week before. The people who will buy SS would have bought vita last week.
That's why I'll be shocked if vita sells over 20-30k.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I said "one of, if not, the biggest". I think it is hard to argue that Soul Sacrifice is not one of the biggest releases ever on the Vita, and it is not entirely improbable to be the biggest release ever in Japan.
Edit: Lost in all of this is we don't know how many of the SS Vita bundles were shipped and what effect that could have had on the number of units sold last week.
ricen-beans
Member
What if they wanted the red vita? They would've held out...
A genre that is very popular in Japan, very high production values (and generally positive reception) and a really strong marketing push.
Can't think of anything that would be considered a bigger release on the system.
You could say the same shit for any new game, really.
You're simple underestimating the effect new games have on consumers. And SS seems to be one of the best releases for Vita right now.
Father_Brain
Banned
Being established IP, P4G and HMPDf certainly could be considered such.
There's also a chance that FFX HD and GE2 could be bigger despite their multiplatform status, but that would require either SS to underperform significantly, or a much better Vita sales ratio than we've seen with the few multiplats that have been released thus far.
The one store had sales increase 1.5x over the last week. Yes I know it's just one store but people will be willing to wait so they can pick up the game (or bundle) they want at the same time.
I don't know how well the Vita will do but I think it'll be over 20-30k.