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Media Create Sales: Week 47, 2011 (Nov 21 - Nov 27)

duckroll

Member
mpl90's release schedule for 3DS next year is kinda worrisome I suppose. Where are ALL the games that are supposed to be developed and launched on a leader device ? I don't get it at all.

Nobody wants to develop games ? No one is willing to milk japanese customers ?

Games don't pop out of nowhere. They take time to develop.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
mpl90's release schedule for 3DS next year is kinda worrisome I suppose. Where are ALL the games that are supposed to be developed and launched on a leader device ? I don't get it at all.

Nobody wants to develop games ? No one is willing to milk japanese customers ?

But...there are.
Resident Evil
Tekken
Final Fantasy Spin off
Metal Gear Solid
Dynasty Warriors
Hatsune Miku
Ace Combat

New IPs such as Beyond the Labyrinth.

They ARE coming.
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I think controls are an interesting point. The touch screen controls for the DS Zeldas actually made playing them easier and simpler than ever before. You tap to move, you tap to attack, etc. It was very casual, and the most complex movements involved basically drawing lines on the screen.

On the other hand, Skyward Sword is a really interesting mix of traditional movement controls with relatively complex or advanced motion combat. The sword fighting in particular requires more precision and coordination than ever before, since you have to watch enemy patterns to see which directions they're blocking or moving, and then strike to match.

It's also interesting that a lot of the tools and skills have their own motion control schemes, many taken from Wii Sports Resort. While they are all extremely natural and fun, it remains a barrier of entry for people who aren't great at core videogames and remembering many different rule sets and instructions. Wii Sports Resort tells you the rule for each minigame before you play them, and those are the only rules for that entire minigame. In SS, you have to remember how to control each different tool and be able to pull stuff off as you switch between stuff.

I have no idea if such things will have much of an impact on the actual accessibility of the game for a larger mainstream audience, but they are still factors to consider. I don't think mainstream gamers have anything against motion controls, but it's all in how they are applied and presented.

Yeah, I find myself occasionally forgetting which tool I'm controlling and end up getting chewed up by enemies while I try to reorient myself and set things straight. Plus while more strategic, the combat is less straight forward (and on a personal note, trying to tell the M+ I want to roll a bomb rather than throw it is sometimes a futile affair. :-/). Perhaps the barrier of entry is too high as you put it compared to the DS Zelda's and even the OoT remake which just uses the old controls + touch screen for inventory.
 

Michan

Member
Weekly 3DS sales are just bizarre, did they put out a new color? The top game is half of the overall sales for the system and that game was the only one to even chart. Mario Kart will be interesting next week, if these people are really just MH people buying it for MH... will these people ever buy another game besides MH? This is getting ridiculous.

This has been the case ever since they announced MH and the price cut. Don't forget that there is an awful lot of fodder below the top 20, which will amount to a couple of dozen thousand units, that the used market is extremely prominent in Japan, and that there's a large library of DS titles occupying the very shelves 3DS sits on.

mpl90's release schedule for 3DS next year is kinda worrisome I suppose. Where are ALL the games that are supposed to be developed and launched on a leader device ? I don't get it at all.

Nobody wants to develop games ? No one is willing to milk japanese customers ?

Mario and Kart will sit in the charts for a long time to come, and MH tends to have legs. There was a thread posted recently with the lineup, which looks impressive considering Nintendo often announces titles months before release.

Hopefully it won't be a Wii/DS situation again, where all the publishers were late to the party. I don't think it will happen, though. Publishers have been consistently announcing new, big titles for 3DS since it released.
 

Kenka

Member
Lemme stress the word "ALL" in my quote.




Or do we even still have a vast enough array of games that can feed a continuous (and profitable) stream of new releases...
 

Michan

Member
Or do we even still have a vast enough array of games that can feed a continuous (and profitable) stream of new releases...

In this month-long window we're seeing games from three of the four or five biggest portable franchises releasing, and only one of them is out so far. There are a lot of small to medium-sized games releasing over the coming months, too. People will be occupied without doubt, and we'll likely see more release dates announced at the end of the quarter/FY.
 

Laguna

Banned
In this month-long window we're seeing games from three of the four or five biggest portable franchises releasing, and only one of them is out so far. There are a lot of small to medium-sized games releasing over the coming months, too. People will be occupied without doubt, and we'll likely see more release dates announced at the end of the quarter/FY.

There´s also Kingdom Hearts in the horizon even a Dragon Quest Monsters is planned for the first half next year among Nintendo games like Mario Tennis, Luigi´s Mansion, Fire Emblem, Paper Mario and Animal Crossing. Level5 has PhoenixVSLayton, with more niche games like Time Travellers and Guild5 in the oven and there still is the inofficial 999-sequel. It´s a more than solid lineup to be honest.
 

Kenka

Member
In this month-long window we're seeing games from three of the four or five biggest portable franchises releasing, and only one of them is out so far. There are a lot of small to medium-sized games releasing over the coming months, too. People will be occupied without doubt, and we'll likely see more release dates announced at the end of the quarter/FY.
I hope your statements on this page are a prelude to exciting times to come. The PS brand has a lot more games for it now and they are fairly successful on average. It will ask some efforts from Nintendo to make their forthcoming line-up dry up in favour of the 3DS.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
If even half of Nintendo's announced 3DS games come out I'd be excited for 2012.

Some of the 3rd party stuff is decent too and there is probably a Pokémon announcement in the next three weeks and that'll also probably hit late next year.
 

LOCK

Member
Great sales all around. Wished Zelda would have been bigger, but hopefully its holiday leds and Nintendo advertising will help it along.
 

Alrus

Member
I hope your statements on this page are a prelude to exciting times to come. The PS brand has a lot more games for it now and they are fairly successful on average. It will ask some efforts from Nintendo to make their forthcoming line-up dry up in favour of the 3DS.

Huh? What are you talking about? 3DS lineup for the beginning of 2012 is pretty amazing. Much better than what we know about Vita's one actually.
 

Takao

Banned
I think LBX Boost did pretty well. I suspect a sub-200k LTD which would be very good.

Nino Kuni is bomba of the year.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
The battle begins

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3DS was behind this week? I'm surprised.

I believe that Animal Crossing WW came out this week in 2005.

I hope your statements on this page are a prelude to exciting times to come. The PS brand has a lot more games for it now and they are fairly successful on average. It will ask some efforts from Nintendo to make their forthcoming line-up dry up in favour of the 3DS.

I'd say it's quite the opposite. The 3DS is sitting on titles that Sony normally has in its arsenal. Resident Evil, Tekken, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid are all going to be solid to great sellers for the 3DS in Q1 next year. Nintendo games aren't on that list simply because Nintendo hasn't announced dates yet, but I think it's possible we see at least Luigi's Mansion and Kid Icarus, with Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem following up in Q2. The 3DS has a very solid lineup along with some games releasing this holiday that should have healthy legs. Nothing to worry about at all.

You say the PS brand has a lot more games coming for it, but really, what are they at this point? I assume you are talking mainly about PSV in comparison to the 3DS.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
PES 2012 is released in few hours in Japan on 3DS. Could anyone speaking japanese translate some of the big new features in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1X13ErdZ9f0

I remember it'll be released on the 8th as Skyrim...

EDIT: Yep.

Amazon watch: After being sold out for some days and after having seen only the lower parts of the ranking, both versions of Inazuma Eleven Go such a sudden rise: 30 and 44.
All 3DS skus are in top 20, Zelda still in top10, the new Wii sku, bundled with Wii Party, is rising.
 
3DS was behind this week? I'm surprised.

Really?

(Some of) you seem to forget just how successful the original DS was. What with all the 3DS vs DS comparisons where the DS' omgrisetoheaven-sales are considered the benchmark, there's bound to be some disappointment in the near future, regardless of how impressive the 3DS does for itself.
 

zero_suit

Member
Really?

(Some of) you seem to forget just how successful the original DS was. What with all the 3DS vs DS comparisons where the DS' omgrisetoheaven-sales are considered the benchmark, there's bound to be some disappointment in the near future, regardless of how impressive the 3DS does for itself.

Exactly, the DS will make every console's sales look bad.
 
To me, Vita's announced software lineup looks a lot like Dreamcast's: a lot of qualitatively promising titles, very, very few of which seem likely to do much to drive hardware sales beyond the early adopter crowd. I think it'll settle into the 20K weekly range, if not less, shortly after launch.
 

saichi

Member
I hope your statements on this page are a prelude to exciting times to come. The PS brand has a lot more games for it now and they are fairly successful on average. It will ask some efforts from Nintendo to make their forthcoming line-up dry up in favour of the 3DS.

are we looking at the same release schedule for 2012?

3DS release schedule is pretty well covered with different type of games.
 

Spiegel

Member
To me, Vita's announced software lineup looks a lot like Dreamcast's: a lot of qualitatively promising titles, very, very few of which seem likely to do much to drive hardware sales beyond the early adopter crowd. I think it'll settle into the 20K weekly range, if not less, shortly after launch.

At this point Vita has a better announced lineup in Japan than PSP had two weeks before its release.

I would start getting worried if there are no games announced outside of the launch period.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
I just realized all the Wii sales falling on Japan compared to PS3 has only amounted to a little over 600,000 all year.

Not only that, I just realized the Wii basically just sold more on Black Friday here in the US than in Japan ... ALL YEAR. Hell, the Wii and 360 combined just sold basically as many consoles Black Friday week, period, in Japan ALL YEAR.

I think Japan does not give a single fuck about consoles anymore. Could less of a fuck be given nowadays?
 
Each Uta no Prince sama charts, I wonder if the games just involve the same cast as the anime or embraced additional characters and new STARISH singles.

I guess Ill hold on commenting on 3DS as shooting over 100K this week nullifies my statement from the previous week.
 

Truth101

Banned
3DS sales are going to boom next week with the release of Mario Kart. I hope to see SM3DL to maintain its current sales, possible even see a bit of a bump.
 
At this point Vita has a better announced lineup in Japan than PSP had two weeks before its release.

And that very well may be true (though I don't see any announced Vita exclusive comparable to Crisis Core), but as I think you've pointed out elsewhere, PSP was in a more favorable situation back then in several key respects: it launched almost simultaneously with its closest competitor; its closest competitor also had a pretty weak announced lineup of upcoming software; and it launched around what was probably the PlayStation brand's all-time high of commercial strength and relevance. None of those factors are in Vita's favor this time, and while (obviously) nothing is a foregone conclusion at this point, I think there's considerably less reason to give it the benefit of the doubt.
 
At this point Vita has a better announced lineup in Japan than PSP had two weeks before its release.
I'd disagree with that, Crisis Core was a way bigger deal than anything Vita's gotten so far and outside that most of thr notable franchises seem to be repeats (Musou, Mingol, Tales, RR, Capcom fighters, etc).
 

Spiegel

Member
And that very well may be true (though I don't see any announced Vita exclusive comparable to Crisis Core), but as I think you've pointed out elsewhere, PSP was in a more favorable situation back then in several key respects: it launched almost simultaneously with its closest competitor; its closest competitor also had a pretty weak announced lineup of upcoming software; and it launched around what was probably the PlayStation brand's all-time high of commercial strength and relevance. None of those factors are in Vita's favor this time, and while (obviously) nothing is a foregone conclusion at this point, I think there's considerably less reason to give it the benefit of the doubt.

FFX even though is shared with PS3 is at the very least on par with the "Action RPG based on the FFVII universe" which is everything we knew by December '04. And the game should be released earlier than the 2 years and 9 months that it took for CC to come out for psp.
The launch window lineup is more than fine.

The big question mark is the support outside of the launch window and that's why I'm not planning to buy a Vita at launch or probably in the first year. But Vita hasn't launched yet so it's too early to call anything.

3DS future was looking pretty grim in the early summer and look how things are now.
 

Hyuga

Banned
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| 3DS | 120.920 | 96.219 | | 2.678.016 | | 2.678.016 |
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Lemme stress the word "ALL" in my quote.




Or do we even still have a vast enough array of games that can feed a continuous (and profitable) stream of new releases...

DQ Monsters, Luigi's Mansion, Time Travellers, Kid Icarus, Fire Emblem, Resident Evil Revelations, Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, Ace Combat, Dynasty Warrior, Kingdom Hearts, Proffesor Layton vs. Ace Attorney, Friend Collection, Animal Crossing, Paper Mario, Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy, Love Plus, Bravery Default, Fantasy Life and Mario Tennis are all I believe slated for 2012. Most of these I believe are set to launch in the first half of 2012. On top of the huge momentum the 3DS will be coming off of Holiday 2011. I believe the first half of 2012 looks pretty nice for the 3DS. After that is anyones guess.
 
FFX even though is shared with PS3 is at the very least on par with the "Action RPG based on the FFVII universe" which is everything we knew by December '04.

Is it? I'm under the impression that it's just an HD port, with the prerendered backgrounds presumably redone in realtime and possibly some additional content. If it actually turns out to be a proper remake, its importance is still diluted by it not being Vita-exclusive. (That would also mean that SE has very questionable business sense, since a proper FFVII remake would cost just as much to develop but would almost certainly sell better.)
 
FFX even though is shared with PS3 is at the very least on par with the "Action RPG based on the FFVII universe" which is everything we knew by December '04.
No, it really isn't.

PSP also had GT4P, which was a pretty huge deal at the time, even if the eventual end result fizzled out.
 
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