I'd say it'd be in Sony's interests to secure it for PS4 to get Japan to start buying the system asap.With localizations of portable Tales I wouldn't get very optimistic.
Hope they announce it in JuneI don't expect a PS4 Tales right away.
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Oh, Nirolak, this seems important as well:
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I imagine Tales fans will be on board either way. Vesperia came out on PS3 in 2009 and did very well without another prior Tales game. Then Graces F also did well, then Xillia 1 and 2...
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I imagine Tales fans will be on board either way. Vesperia came out on PS3 in 2009 and did very well without another prior Tales game. Then Graces F also did well, then Xillia 1 and 2...
Okay so now that we can add Tales to our "not Wii U" list, given that Sengoku Basara was also announced for PS3, what are the remaining moderately sized Japanese franchises we are expecting have at least a fair chance of coming to the system?
I think we made a list about ~20 threads ago, but I'm not sure if I have it anymore.
This gen they wasted a ton of sales potential hopping to every possible platform, so them being reluctant to do that now is a sound business strategy.
I think we made a list about ~20 threads ago, but I'm not sure if I have it anymore.
Yeah, I think it makes a lot of sense for Namco.
This gen they wasted a ton of sales potential hopping to every possible platform, so them being reluctant to do that now is a sound business strategy.
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say here in regards to MH3G. And I'm not even sure about where you got the bolded. Are you talking about retail promotions which are normal?
How long did it take for the PS3?
Frankly, until we actually get a Japanese 3rd party Wii U announcement (IIRC we have had 1 in 4-5 months- RE:Revelations), I think the most prudent guess is to say none.
I think Persona is the only one that fits the description but I double Atlus would make a Wii U/Ps3 multiplat and I don't think there's a chance P5 misses a chance to be on Ps3 or Vita (or Ps4 if they take like 2-3 years from now to make it)
I could be wrong but I felt like he was implying there'll be a few more Tales for PS3? When they do make the next gen jump though (when they feel like fans are on board with next gen), they ought to stick with PS4. This gen should've made it clear that people want console Tales on a Sony console.
Bruno MB
Member
At least I acknowledge you're really trying you hardest in your personal crusade against the evident success of Monster Hunter 3G.
Regarding Wii U third-party games, we shouldn't forget about Taiko no Tatsujin, other than that, I can't see Wii U getting any moderately big.
BishopLamont
Banned
If AC holds steady at 60k minimum, we're looking at it past AC:WW by the end of the year, even without the holiday boosts and such. Its gotta slow down sometime, but this is uncharted territory right here.
Yeah I think the thing that has surprised me the most is not that there's "silence" (as in no larger titles), but actual silence (as in no retail games at all).
That did come to mind, though they seem to be taking five billion years to announce the game at all.
Personally I would expect at least 2013 and 2014's games to be on PS3.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I for one am enjoying reading the fabrications of price collapse directed toward Monster Hunter 3G.
Gianni Merryman
Member
At first upon reading your post 5M seemed to me a little far-fetched, but I've just checked on Garaph and it seems so far New leaf is performing in line with Wild world, if not slightly better, isn't it?
Yeah - it's actually really eerie. There's just this void of nothingness.
Gianni Merryman
Member
In fact, I take the opportunity to point this out, IIRC MH3G cost 1.000¥ more than both Mario3DLand and Mario kart 7 - until budget edition released - yet it was always up there.
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Wii Japanese 3rd party releases until Jun 30 2007:
Wii AQ Interactive Victorious Boxers: Revolution 21/06/2007
Wii ATLUS Trauma Center: Second Opinion 02/12/2006
Wii Bandai Namco Games Ennichi no Tatsujin 02/12/2006
Wii Bandai Namco Games SD Gundam: Scad Hammers 02/12/2006
Wii Bandai Namco Games Tamagotchi Party On! 02/12/2006
Wii Bandai Namco Games Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 01/01/2007
Wii Bandai Namco Games One Piece: Unlimited Adventure 26/04/2007
Wii Banpresto Crayon Shin-Chan: Saikyou Kazoku Kasukabe King Wii 02/12/2006
Wii Capcom Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition 31/05/2007
Wii Hudson Kororinpa: Marble Mania 02/12/2006
Wii Hudson Wing Island 02/12/2006
Wii Hudson Puzzle Series Vol. 1: Sudoku 22/03/2007
Wii Hudson Fishing Master 29/03/2007
Wii Hudson Bomberman Land 08/03/2007
Wii Interchannel Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 17/05/2007
Wii Koei Mahjong Taikai Wii 25/01/2007
Wii Koei G1 Jockey Wii 15/03/2007
Wii Koei San Goku Shi 11 with Power-Up Kit 21/03/2007
Wii Tecmo Super Swing Golf 02/12/2006
Wii Konami Elebits 02/12/2006
Wii Marvelous Case Closed: One Truth Prevails - The Mirapolis Investigation 17/05/2007
Wii Marvelous Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility 07/06/2007
Wii Marvelous Mahou Sensei Negima!? Neo-Pactio Fight!! 14/06/2007
Wii MTO GT Pro Series 11/01/2007
Wii Sega Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz 02/12/2006
Wii Sega Bleach: Shattered Blade 14/12/2006
Wii Sega Sonic and the Secret Rings 15/03/2007
Wii Sega Jissen Pachi-Slot Pachinko Hisshouhou! Sammy's Collection Hokuto no Ken Wii 24/05/2007
Wii Spike Escape from Bug Island 02/12/2006
Wii Success Domino Rally 21/06/2007
Wii Taito Corporation Cooking Mama: Cook Off 11/12/2008
Wii Taito Corporation Densha de Go! Shinkansen EX: Sanyou Shinkansen Hen 01/03/2007
Wii Taito Corporation Furu Furu Park 19/04/2007
Wii Takara Tomy Naruto Shippuden: Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX 22/02/2007
Wii Yuke's The Dog Island 26/04/2007
Wii U Japanese 3rd party releases until Jun 30 2013 (currently)
Wii U Arc System Works Nano Assault Neo 27/02/2013
Wii U Bandai Namco Games Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition 08/12/2012
Wii U Bandai Namco Games Tank! Tank! Tank! 21/02/2013
Wii U Capcom Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate 08/12/2012
Wii U Capcom Monster Hunter 3G Packet Relay Tool 21/02/2013
Wii U Capcom Resident Evil: Revelations 23/05/2013
Wii U D3P Family Party: 30 Great Games Obstacle Arcade 20/12/2012
Wii U Koei Tecmo Games Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge 08/12/2012
Wii U Koei Tecmo Games Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper 08/12/2012
Wii U Koei Tecmo Games San Goku Shi 12 13/12/2012
Wii U Koei Tecmo Games Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 2 31/01/2013
Wii U Square Enix Dragon Quest X 30/03/2013"But you asked us to make games for the 3DS... Now you want us to make games for your new Wii accessory too?!!"
H_Prestige
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Less than the ps3
Bruno MB
Member
A very useful post, it's a pleasure to have Road here.
The first thing I see is that only 6 Japanese third-party companies have released or announced Wii U titles, that says it all.
BishopLamont
Banned
It had a big debut and its legs are stronger, I don't see any reason for it to slow down any time soon. Its outpacing WW by a wide margin, its done more than WW with only half the time, friggin insane.
It's performing way better, and this is without factoring in digital downloads which have been relatively important for this title.
Thanks for the list Road.
I feel the 3DS hitting PS2 level ate up a lot of the bottom end.
Sony is also incentivizing a lot of the lower tier software on to Vita at this point in an attempt to save the platform.
Polarization and declines in console retail sales relative to the PS2 era have made a lot of the types of games that did come to the Wii no longer financially feasible as well.
I feel the 3DS hitting PS2 level ate up a lot of the bottom end.
Sony is also incentivizing a lot of the lower tier software on to Vita at this point in an attempt to save the platform.
Polarization and declines in console retail sales relative to the PS2 era have made a lot of the types of games that did come to the Wii no longer financially feasible as well.
Magicpaint
Member
I'm amazed at the lengths some people will go to convince themselves that MH3G underperformed. Sure, if you expect MHP3 numbers, but even Capcom didn't expect that.
It really is bizarre. Only a few posters though.
Agreed. Also, like we discussed earlier, in contrast to the West I feel like most Japanese publishers don't have the manpower to just add a Wii U port- if a game is targeted for PS3, its probably staying there unless Nintendo steps in.
Seeing the big difference between the two perhaps we should ask ourselves: where have all those 3rd party titles gone to ?
3DS or phones ?
and if they find the Wii U unapealing why haven't they jumped on ps3 and its installbase?
thank you so basically the same as here.
Yeah Capcom is generally fine throwing games under the bus when they underperform at fiscal meetings, and they definitely didn't do that for Monster Hunter.
The only time I can think of recently when they made questionable statements was Dragon's Dogma, but the management spent years saying how outsourcing their existing IPs and making new IPs in Japan was their infallible future plan, so they had to insist that was reality in the end.
Well, looking through that list, Hudson doesn't exist and Sega has really decreased its console emphasis since 2006.
Honestly, the big outlier comparing the 2 lists is Namco Bandai.
Gianni Merryman
Member
Road, sorry if mine is a dumb question, but how come Sonic team racing is not included in the list?
That is because it is not from Japanese branch of Sega perhaps?
Anyway, the first thing that caught my attention in the list is the lack of announcements from Marvelous, hope they have something in the works.
Another thing that comes to mind reading that Wii list, if I'm not mistaking myself, Hudson has been bought over for some time.
That is because it is not from Japanese branch of Sega perhaps?
Anyway, the first thing that caught my attention in the list is the lack of announcements from Marvelous, hope they have something in the works.
Another thing that comes to mind reading that Wii list, if I'm not mistaking myself, Hudson has been bought over for some time.
BishopLamont
Banned
Marvelous is also a big exclusion. Their games do well on Nintendo hardware also.
What remains of Hudson is also entirely social/mobile now.
Hero of Legend
Member
MAQL really aren't doing much on consoles ATM, just Deadly Premonition DC on PS3, and did the 360 game even sell that well?
And mostly at ND Cube.
Sad fate, but they're in a better home now.True, but IIRC their Wii projects did not do that well in Japan.
test_account
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Sonic Transformed isnt released in Japan yet. I havnt seen any announcement of a japanese version either.
OK, thanks. Did not know that.
Quick Google search says the first one didn't release in Japan, so I assume they will do the same. Seems kind of odd to do that. I imagine it could see some modest success since Mario Kart is really popular.
Sonic games don't seem to sell very well in Japan, so I can't blame SEGA for not localizing a spinoff.
test_account
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I agree, i was surprised to see that no japanese release is planned. I didnt know that the first one wasnt released there.
That could be the reason. It is a great game though, so it would be nice to see how it would sell
Bruno MB
Member
Here is the list of all Wii third-party games that sold over 100.000 units, figures aren't completely updated and I didn't take into account budget releases.
As we can see the list is really pathetic for a console that sold 12 million units, just 38 games.
So basically what we have here is Taiko no Tatsujin (5 titles), Dragon Quest (4 titles), Monster Hunter (2 titles), Resident Evil (ports and spin-offs), a main Tales of and a spin-off and half-dozen titles that took advantage from Wii userbase. From this already poor level of support, what games can Wii U get? I'm afraid that almost nothing, and then there is the problem that current gen ports won't sell since all the audience is firmly established on PS3. Developing an exclusive title is risky and expensive (even more on a very struggling platform) and if I were a niche developer, Wii U would currently be my last option. So all things considered, is not that weird the rejection Wii U is getting from Japanese developers. It hasn't found its place in the market. At least with PS Vita (another struggling platform) developers know that that userbase is receptive to certain kind of games.
test_account
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Not counting the already announced/released stuff (Dragon Quest X, Monster Hunter Tri G HD and Resident Evil Revelations), i think Monster Hunter 4 HD is the most safe bet. I also think a Taiko game has a good chance to come out for the WiiU. Maybe a Inazuma Eleven game as well.
Agreed.
Yeah that's the one 3rd party franchise that was an unequivocal success on Wii. Unless Namco is going to try and single handily keep the Wii alive I assume it will come out on Wii U sometime soon.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Personally I'd like to see sequels to Family Fishing and Go Vacation on Wii U from Namco Bandai. Nintendo should probably ask them for a Run For The Money game though.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Taiko petered out pretty quick on PS2, it finished significantly stronger on Wii actually.
Yeah Go Vacation ended up being a pretty big hit.
More reason to move the game from PS2 to PS3 and not move the game from Wii to WiiU then, no?
Sammy Samusu
Member
C'mon, you think Namco is not working on Taiko Wii U, out later this year?