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Management/breeding/racing horses simulation.gantz85 said:What is Winning Post?
Would that mean that 12,000 units is its best performance ever?
Best since 2005, but PS2 entries did way better until that year.
Management/breeding/racing horses simulation.gantz85 said:What is Winning Post?
Would that mean that 12,000 units is its best performance ever?
With PS3's 07-08 sales and the current rate of announcements, there surely can't be any correlation unless it's inverse.schuelma said:There is absolutely no correlation between any Famitsu announcements and current weekly sales. The correlation would be between 2007-08 sales and announcements.
Nope. PS2 RRP is still 16,000 yen as it has been since shortly before PS3 launched. Amazon etc have been discounting about 1,600 yen for a long time now though.DarkMehm said:Did the PS2 get a pricecut in Japan too?
Well, sure, there's always the possibility there will be 20 surprise hits. But that there can be unexpected events is no reason to consider future events a complete unknown.gtj1092 said:So that I understand; games become significant releases after they have sold well relatively speaking weather or not the game was suppose to be a big release in the first place (i.e. demon souls)? If this is the case can the mantra that Ps360 have no more big releases for the rest of the year stop since we don't know if any of their releases will approach 100k sold.
Sage00 said:Nope. PS2 RRP is still 16,000 yen as it has been since shortly before PS3 launched. Amazon etc have been discounting about 1,600 yen for a long time now though.
Sage00 said:With PS3's 07-08 sales and the current rate of announcements, there surely can't be any correlation unless it's inverse.
gantz85 said:Can one of the stats guys confirm whether PS3 is still undercharting compared to its 2008 performance? I remember it isn't even matching its 08 performance a few months ago.
I don't think we need something different, we need more of the same of what works. Wii Fit Plus, Wii Sports Resort, etc. These are steps back in the right direction.Eteric Rice said:Hopefully Nintendo, or someone puts out a few games to get Japan's attention again.
I mean, while stuff like Arc Rise Fantasia, etc, is coming... Well, it's very samey. It seems like an everyday RPG. Someone needs to make something completely different to get interest again.
gtj1092 said:So that I understand; games become significant releases after they have sold well relatively speaking weather or not the game was suppose to be a big release in the first place (i.e. demon souls)?
Eteric Rice said:Hopefully Nintendo, or someone puts out a few games to get Japan's attention again.
I mean, while stuff like Arc Rise Fantasia, etc, is coming... Well, it's very samey. It seems like an everyday RPG. Someone needs to make something completely different to get interest again.
donny2112 said:"Significant" Releases:
* Big games - Street Fighter IV, Yakuza 3, Resident Evil 5
* Expected good sales - Musou Orochi Z; First release on PS3 of a combo pack of PS2 games that launched at 378K and 220K. The PS3 game came in way under those (104K), but way under those is still pretty darn good. It was also #1 for the week.
* Actual good sales - Demon's Soul; This one was a surprise as shown by the shortages. It was also probably helped through being followed by all of the above games. Again, consistent, significant releases bring people into the stores, and if they're in the stores, they're more likely to purchase software.
If you'd rather exclude Demon's Soul (a reasonable postion), that's fine. That would leave the string of consistent, significant releases as shown below.
Street Fighter IV - 2/12
Yakuza 3 - 2/26
Resident Evil 5 - 3/5
Musou Orochi Z - 3/12
Edit:
On a personal level, I can see why it would be better to exclude Demon's Soul. "Significant" releases should probably have more to do with expectations than with actual results. However that does mean that surprise hits like Brain Training wouldn't be considered "significant," which is just plain silly.
gtj1092 said:Maybe its as simple as Ps3 owners are just more interested in a game like Winning Post which is where this arguement stems from.
gantz85 said:Can one of the stats guys confirm whether PS3 is still undercharting compared to its 2008 performance? I remember it isn't even matching its 08 performance a few months ago.
Yep. With week 13 it pulled a little ahead in Media Create, and the same should be true for Famitsu.schuelma said:I think it's now pulled ahead or just about even.
gtj1092 said:how do these releases change the buying habits of entire console base.
gtj1092 said:I mean people still show up every week and purchase Wii fit and Taiko.
gtj1092 said:Maybe its as simple as Ps3 owners are just more interested in a game like Winning Post which is where this arguement stems from.
schuelma said:There is absolutely no correlation between any Famitsu announcements and current weekly sales. The correlation would be between 2007-08 sales and announcements.
Luckyman said:Yeah, Koei just now suddenly picked Ni-Oh from the trashbin.
schuelma said:Yeah, in the approximately 4-5 weeks that PS3 has started to sell marginally better than before, Koei decided to re-start development on a dead project. I'm sure they were just waiting for PS3 sales to stay above 20K for 4 weeks and then they had that sucker ready to go again. Additionally, I'm sure SE has looked at this past month of sales and has already cancelled DQ X Wii and moved it to the HD twins.