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[Lunatic_Gamer]

Jim Ryan has said that the PlayStation 5 is on track to be Sony’s most successful console “across multiple vectors”

“I’d say right now we’re at the top of our game,” he replied. “We’ve been really clear and really consistent about what we stand for great consoles, great console gaming experience, and great games. I would say that right now we’re at the top of our game.”

“PlayStation 5 is well on track to be our most successful console ever across multiple vectors and I think the games and the gaming experiences you see on PlayStation 5, lead by PlayStation Studios, are the best that we’ve ever seen.”

Ryan continued, “The number of games we’ve published so far on PlayStation 5 at this point in the cycle, way exceeds anything that we’ve ever done before.”

Jim Ryan says PS5 is ‘well on track’ to be Sony’s most successful console ever | VGC

In an interview on the Official PlayStation Podcast to mark his retirement, Ryan was asked about his thoughts on PlayStation’s position in the games market going forward.

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[Banjo64]

Unless he’s talking about some made up Phil Spencer metrics there’s no way it tops the PS2 in terms of units sold.

 

[TommyCronin6969]

I didn't know he was quitting Sony to become a comedian.

 

[Gaiff]

Might have to revise that 160M PS2s sold to 157M just in case the PS5 sells 156M.

 

[Loxus]

Unless he’s talking about some made up Phil Spencer metrics there’s no way it tops the PS2 in terms of units sold.

He says successful, not units sold.

The PS5, it's more expensive games and subscription service is bringing in more money than the PS2.

 

[nial]

Unless he’s talking about some made up Phil Spencer metrics there’s no way it tops the PS2 in terms of units sold.

To be fair, it can be more successful by different metrics. As an example, PS4 made vastly more money for Sony in one year than the whole PS2 gen did..

 

[tomato shrub]

 

[jroc74]

I'm pretty sure he must mean profit and revenue wise.

He says successful not unit sold.

The PS5, it's more expensive games and subscription service is bringing in more money than the PS2.

Thank you.

IIRC the PS4 was already classified as being more successful than the PS2. And we know its not by units sold.

To be fair, it can be more successful by different metrics. As an example, PS4 made vastly more money for Sony in one year than the whole PS2 gen did..

This.

 

[Represent.]

One more lie/shit ass opinion before he leaves

 

[Physiognomonics]

So we are listening interviews from old, has being guys and retired people now?

 

[Gaiff]

To be fair, it can be more successful by different metrics. As an example, PS4 made vastly more money for Sony in one year than the whole PS2 gen did..

The PS5 is also more successful at porting games to PC.

 

[GHG]

Unless he’s talking about some made up Phil Spencer metrics there’s no way it tops the PS2 in terms of units sold.

Most likely "success" from a corporate speak perspective.

 

[nial]

The PS5 is also more successful at porting games to PC.

Yes?

So we are listening interviews from old, has being guys and retired people now?

He's still in the office right now, lol.

 

[Majormaxxx]

 

[Represent.]

No first party games in over a year.
Absolutely zero clue about whats next for 1st party releases.
Insane amount of secrecy
Zero communication
overly focused on GAAS trash
WAY too many remasters and remakes
You killed E3
You raised prices
You stopped going to gameshows
Massive layoffs
You wasted 3BILLION on Bungie, and they are making a shitty GAAS game
You let Bungie tell your best, most talented studio what to do, and that got their game cancelled
Game cancellations left and right


From a fan perspective, this is easily the worst its been since the Early PS3 days.

 

[Banjo64]

He says successful, not units sold.

The PS5, it's more expensive games and subscription service is bringing in more money than the PS2.

Isn’t every successive console making more money than the last for Sony?

 

[Physiognomonics]

Yes?

He's still in the office right now, lol.

For me he was already old, has been and obsolete the first day he arrived.

 

[jroc74]

The PS5 is also more successful at porting games to PC.

Without checking to make sure, the PS4 might have that crown. Its probably close tho.

If a console could actually port games.

 

[nial]

Isn’t every successive console making more money than the last for Sony?

Not PS3 and Vita.

 

[Loxus]

No first party games in over a year.
Absolutely zero clue about whats next for 1st party releases.
Insane amount of secrecy
Zero communication
overly focused on GAAS trash
WAY too many remasters and remakes
You killed E3
You stopped going to gameshows

From a fan perspective, this is easily the worst its been since the Early PS3 days.

Are you talking about Phil Spencer?

 

[SlimySnake]

Their revenue and profits are much but he also mentions their game output which frankly has been underwhelming and the cross Gen releases have held back this generation which typically relies on first party to push new tech.

Having one major first party game last year and none this year is simply not good enough. The fact that he had to go out and sign forspoken, death loop, ghostwire tokyo, ff7, ff16 and godfall as exclusives shows that he knew the first party was doing to have a down first few years.

 

[Represent.]

Are you talking about Phil Spencer?

They are both just as bad. At least Phil Spend-sir has Xbox show up at industry gameshows like E3 when it was alive. And at least we know what their 1st party game roadmap is. Sony treats their game roadmap like Nuclear codes. We have no idea what anyone is working on

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

No, my dude.

1. The market is not growing

2. Gen Z and babies that still are yet to be born are not buying consoles. This is why Nintendo is not selling them.

3. Capitalism (what Is it?) i dunno, but i know is killing consoles

my advice to Jim is that he needs to put their games on Xbox (especially Helldivers 2). if he wants to survive in this dying industry.

 

[Badlucktroll]

I don’t think its that insignificant, but consider that this man is leaving with konami games back on playstation and xbox putting its games there as well

 

[Loxus]

They are both just as bad. At least Phil Spend-sir has Xbox show up at industry gameshows like E3 when it was alive. And at least we know what their 1st party game roadmap is. Sony treats their game roadmap like Nuclear codes. We have no idea what anyone is working on

And what's wrong with not knowing what games they're working on?
It's not like we can play them until they're released.

 

[SHA]

Unless he’s talking about some made up Phil Spencer metrics there’s no way it tops the PS2 in terms of units sold.

He meant without excluding modded units.

 

[VolticArchangel]

There's no way the PS5 is touching anything above 130, let alone PS2 numbers.

My guess is that it will reach 125 million by it's lifetime, and that's pushing it.

 

[nial]

No first party games in over a year.

You can't just go to the internet and tell lies.

 

[Horseganador]

The most successful = the one that generates the most money.

And in that he is right, this last year they surpassed the 30 billion barrier.

 

[magnumpy]

I like turtles

 

[AREYOUOKAY?]

What is it magically gonna gain a few million units sold years after it's discontinued?

 

[Gamerguy84]

I really liked that Jim Ryan fella.

 

[Represent.]

You can't just go to the internet and tell lies.

Sony Discloses There Will Be No First-Party PlayStation 5 Exclusives Until 2025

 

[nial]

Sony Discloses There Will Be No First-Party PlayStation 5 Exclusives Until 2025

we do not plan to release any new major existing franchise titles next fiscal year like God of War Ragnarök and Marvelʼs Spider-Man

major existing franchise titles

 

[SmokedMeat]

Jim’s memory must be going to shit.

 

[Fafalada]

Unless he’s talking about some made up Phil Spencer metrics there’s no way it tops the PS2 in terms of units sold.

Others pointed out 'success' already - but notable that PS4 outsold PS2 in software units by 20-30% (possibly more, but Sony stopped reporting PS4 software sales).

I'm pretty sure he must mean profit and revenue wise.

Well - could also be software units (see above).

 

[amigastar]

Are production shortage a thing of the past or are the Playstation 5s still hard to get?

 

[willothedog]

The most successful = the one that generates the most money.

And in that he is right, this last year they surpassed the 30 billion barrier.

minus the 10bn wiped off Sony stock by overestimating PS5 sales.

 

[Radical_3d]

Fortunately Jim Ryan is well on track of exiting Sony as well.

 

[Unknown?]

Jim’s memory must be going to shit.

It's currently outpacing that console launch aligned.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Unless he’s talking about some made up Phil Spencer metrics there’s no way it tops the PS2 in terms of units sold.

He says across multiple vectors. It’s out-pacing PS2 launch-aligned, I believe. And it means in sales dollars and revenue growth, profits, etc. A lot of PS2s sold at $99 and were for DVD playing and not even for gaming by some users. At the time, DVD players as a standalone product were prohibitively expensive.

A PS2 sold didn’t do Sony much good if no one bought games for it.

 

[onQ123]

Unless he’s talking about some made up Phil Spencer metrics there’s no way it tops the PS2 in terms of units sold.

It doesn't have to PS5 is being sold at $399 - $499 & there is so much more money being made through the online network.

Games wasn't selling 10 - 20 million on PS2

 

[willothedog]

It doesn't have to PS5 is being sold at $399 - $499 & there is so much more money being made through the online network.

Games wasn't selling 10 - 20 million on PS2

Gran Turismo 3 sold 14.89m and the $299 PS2 launch price is $538 in today's money

 

[kazuyamishima]

The PS4 generation was possible most profitable that the previous 3 gens together.

The PS5 gen will be more profitable than the PS4 gen.

Sony has come a long way

 

[Oof85]

The most successful = the one that generates the most money.

And in that he is right, this last year they surpassed the 30 billion barrier.

Thought it was the one that generates and retains the most profit?

 

[onQ123]

Gran Turismo 3 sold 14.89m and the $299 PS2 launch price is $538 in today's money

That's 1 game compared to many 10 million plus games on PS4/PS5 Plus paid subscriptions & micro transactions.

 

[ByWatterson]

minus the 10bn wiped off Sony stock by overestimating PS5 sales.

That's not how revenue works.

 

[willothedog]

That's 1 game compared to many 10 million plus games on PS4/PS5 Plus paid subscriptions & micro transactions.

Gran Turismo 4 11.76m, you did say games weren't selling 10-20m but just named two

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Unless he’s talking about some made up Phil Spencer metrics there’s no way it tops the PS2 in terms of units sold.

The metric is money and ps2 isn’t the most successful ps console ever. Ps4 is. Ps5 is going to surpass it with ease i think.

y’all really think consoles sold is the main metric? Lmao. Not how much money each user spends on first party games, subscriptions etc? Ps2 wasn’t all that at the end of the generation for sony.

Chris said it better:


Its weird to read that first page and all the laughing emojis on that OP. Most people in a dedicated videogame forum think ps2 was sonys most successful console? Really?

 

[iamvin22]

He says successful, not units sold.

The PS5, it's more expensive games and subscription service is bringing in more money than the PS2.

Yea, not sure why that poster said anything about ps2.