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Hideo Kojima teases Death Stranding 2 will change the meaning of "strand"
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
There is nothing arrogant about anything he has said in that interview.
DoctorEkkoUK
Member
Thank god I am tired of the same old strand games over and over.
Klosshufvud
Member
It really grows on you.
ByWatterson
Member
We're going to play as Literally Raiden (like that's him but it's also the character's name).
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
It will change the definition of "strand" again?!?
Some of us out here still trying to figure out WTF a "strand game" is from the first time round.
Some of us out here still trying to figure out WTF a "strand game" is from the first time round.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Why not just come up with a different word doofus
VolticArchangel
Member
Punished Isolated Strands
- A fallen rope...
Damn, what a GIGACHAD.
- A fallen rope...
No hover hand?
Damn, what a GIGACHAD.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Kojima is such a unique creative. His stuff is just unlike anyone or anything else's, so I understand why some people just don't "get" the appeal.
But, in the final analysis he makes great, idiosyncratic art. And you really have to define it as art given the obsessive detail with which his game's are crafted.
K2D
Banned
"Yes, Troy-san. The licking is a vital part of the story. Please lick her again.. Take 43, aaaaand action"
"Degenerecy is fine as long as it stays in my browser history, but 'oh no', if a person is being shown as a degenerate in my entertainment..!" -You, probably
The fact that you can't have a person being depicted as a degenerate without ridiculing the creator tells me more about you than Kojima.
Whole clip if anyone cares.. Spoilers obviously.
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
Didnt he say the same shit before first DS released lol. How the future game developers would start implementing this NEW stranding gameplay.
Ultra Donny
Member
My Peter Molyneux radar is ringing.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
semiconscious
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SkylineRKR
Member
I love Death Stranding. Just the desolate feeling, struggling to get from A to B and then I logged in later, and infrastructure was built making it easy. I would also add lots of resources to contribute, it was addicting to me. The game did overstay its welcome, and I enjoyed the mountains less. But then you have to go back and you can use all your well placed zip lines etc to make it a breeze.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
I'm fucking worried what Kojima will predict next.
MALpractice311
Member
Bro, he named an alleged genre of video games that only exists in his mind based on his having made one game thus far in that alleged genre. I can't imagine a game developer fellating himself more than that.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
MALpractice311
Member
And that doesn't strike you as arrogant?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
No. Strikes me as creative.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
What the hell did strand mean in the first place?
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
The biggest fault of DS is that there was any combat at all.
I just wanted to hike with packages!
Badlucktroll
Member
“KOJIMA!!!”
newtypepilot
Member
Kojima has lost his shit since MGS4. All he cares about is hollywood.
He's so far up this ass since no one will tell him no to whatever nonsense he spews out.
He's so far up this ass since no one will tell him no to whatever nonsense he spews out.
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
People never actually read the shit in question, especially if this dude is involved. Just the thread title/headline while at some other point probably trashing others for falling for clickbait.
"Strand" is a connection system they talk about a ton in DS1. He's merely saying, literally, it'll mean something else in the second game. He wasn't even alluding to a genre he created or anything. Kojima GETS INTERVIEWED, aka asked to talk about his game, he talks about the game in detail and therefore is an arrogant cunt. "This is what inspired the game and this is how it'll change in the sequel and why" LOOOL pretentious nerd
Gojiira
Member
Dont agree, the combat was Lethal, and you arent playing as a super soldier it was more about using all the tools at your disposal to tip the odds.
Honestly DS is one of few games that really justifies its mechanics, you cant kill because of the void outs and these actually happen if you kill and leave bodies.
Its not as mechanically ‘free’ as MGSV but it is polished and well implemented.
On topic really hoping Kojima talking about music means DS2 will have dynamic music reacting to whatevers happening, that remix of BB’s theme in the trailer was absolutely GOAT, there gonna have to work so so hard to top how that final walk to the incinerator with BB hits.
Giallo Corsa
Member
One of the most "fresh" and original ideas of the past few years, also, technically-wise, it's one of the most polished and accomplished titles out there.
Of course, it was the "cool title of the month that people like to shit on®" with people parrotting what some "influencers" and "reviewers" on YouTube said without having touched it obviously and therefore it was labeled as a "walking sim LOL !11" with the same people spouting the now cliche' and cool thing to say like "Kojima.is a hack " , "Kojima never got it to begin with" etc etc...
It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario, people keep crying about genre stagnation and yet, when something new comes out they proceed to shit on it.
You just can't please some people...
The fact that it was also a console exclusive didn't help obviously, how the tables would have turned though if it was available for "free" on Gamepass (on Xbox at least, it was available on PC GP).
One of the best games of its generation
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why? He's one of the best gaming directors of all time.
TheAmazingSpiderMan
Member
Really tried with the first one but just couldn’t get into it.
GetInTheRobot
Banned
Please no, what made DS different was it was best to avoid combat.
Kerotan
Member
Agreed. As a once off game DS was fantastic but the combat would need to evolve going forward. The director's cut missions felt more action packed.
With MGSV kojima set the standard for open world tactical gameplay and movement. Why not progress that even further.
It made sense with the story why there was very little emphasis on killing people but now with America connect, the stranding event averted surely the story can justify actually being able to go around and John Rambo people now or choose stealth if you wish.
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Barakov
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Power Pro
Gold Member
I love Perfume! And I have a strong Nocchi bias
I always wish whenever I see one of these articles where she visits a game studio, that I could actually read it.
Ever since she visited Ryu ga gotoku studio, and they scanned her head, I keep wishing she'd show up in one of their games.
Aces High
Gold Member
Loved the first game at first. But then I fell down a mountain and everything I was carrying got damaged (really long fall).
So I said 'fuck it' and decided to sprint and swim through the map to check out places.
That killed the entire atmosphere, though, and the invisible foot things lost their scariness. Like looking behind the curtain and realizing it's all smoke and mirrors. So I uninstalled it.
I would love to have better mountaineering gear in the new game.
So I said 'fuck it' and decided to sprint and swim through the map to check out places.
That killed the entire atmosphere, though, and the invisible foot things lost their scariness. Like looking behind the curtain and realizing it's all smoke and mirrors. So I uninstalled it.
I would love to have better mountaineering gear in the new game.
Oddvintagechap
Member
I want things how they used to be. Everything is so woke now. Can’t even have a traditional strand game anymore.
genesisblock
Member
Not gonna lie, I enjoyed Death Stranding a lot more than MGS:V. Make whatever "strand" he wants to make.
supernova8
Banned
Can't fucking strand Kojima and his "oh yeah go ahead and sniff my farts" bollocks
Hudo
Member
That's debatable. But what isn't debatable is how fucking far up his own ass he is. Back when he got fired from Konami, I was firmly on his side. Now I think I understand why Konami fired his ass. He must be a nightmare to deal with and he really needs someone who is able to say "no" to him.
Moses85
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March Climber
Member
What exactly are they saying 'no' to?
Hudo
Member
Some of his indulgences, like exposition dump cutscenes that are overly long or his writing that, at least in MGS5 and Death Stranding, was too pseudo-intellectual, imho. Where he just fucking tried too hard to be deep and it shows. But maybe it's just me.
I still think he peaked with MGS1,2 (and maybe 3). And on those projects, he had writers and assistant directors helping him out and producers who said to him "ok, wrap it up, get it done.". And I now I'm starting to think that this helped tremendously. Chris Roberts is also one who is in dire need of a "no-man". His work was his best when he was with Origin Systems and had people supervising him. Granted, my favorite of his games is Freelancer but even there, he had to step down from the position of director because the project just went on and on until Microsoft put their foot down.