• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Half-Life 3 Leak/Speculation By Tyler McVicker

Markio128

Gold Member
I’ve seen another leak that states HL3 will be released the same month as the Bloodborne remake in time for the 100th anniversary of bullshit.
 

mitch1971

Member
god is real GIF
So is the footage of her husband at diddy's parties, but HL3 ain't.
 

Schmick

Member
Even if Half Life 3 was real what would be the chances the game would actually achieve the hype put onto it.

This game would have to be a 95+ meta score.
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I would actually buy a top of the range gaming PC for HL3. I don't care about cost. HL3 is the killer app for PC that would demand a top of the range rig to do it justice.

Regarding the rumor, it sounds believable. HL2 made some revolutionary strides in game physics and it sounds like Valve are going to make similar strides with the long overdue sequel.
 

SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Interesting that they hired folks from various AAA studios.
Yeah it wouldn't be for any other company, but for Valve it's a major change of strategy from recruiting or buying out smaller indie studios, which is how they have been staffing up since the Orange Box days. It might show a recognition that they need leadership that knows modern ways of organizing a large team.
 
Last edited:

Holammer

Member
If Valve is actually hires people, that's great news. For anyone getting hired anyway, how often do you see a game being developed by ex-Valve devs?
 

hlm666

Member
Regarding the rumor, it sounds believable. HL2 made some revolutionary strides in game physics and it sounds like Valve are going to make similar strides with the long overdue sequel.
That's the stuff that made me think it sounds plausible. I'm still not holding my breathe but if it ever happens it wont just be half life 2 with better graphics, and it should have more complex physics than HLA at the very least.
 

Moses85

Member
That's the stuff that made me think it sounds plausible. I'm still not holding my breathe but if it ever happens it wont just be half life 2 with better graphics, and it should have more complex physics than HLA at the very least.
valve has always been known for the fact that their games have set standards technically (not just visually). and that's why a Half Life 3 has to offer something special.
 
Wishful thinking at best.

We all know they'll just surprise everyone with something out of the blue.

And HL will again be VR. Come at me.
 

SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Did they bring in the original writers, because that matters.
I think Laidlaw is long gone from the team. He wrote a lot of stuff before he left but given the events of Alyx I very much doubt they still plan to go the same direction.
 

ScHlAuChi

Member
Valve´s engine tech is more than a decade behind the compeititon.
Before they could make a HL3 that is up to modern standards, they would have to make a completely new engine.
New engine + AAA game standards requires ALOT of people - which they clearly dont have.
So if this rumor is right, it probably is some really small game on the level of Alyx, but most likely its just not true!
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
They cannot make HL3 now. It would never live up to the crazy expectations from fans. The other games were not even that great to begin with. 🤷‍♂️
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
I think Laidlaw is long gone from the team. He wrote a lot of stuff before he left but given the events of Alyx I very much doubt they still plan to go the same direction.
He and Erik Wolpaw returned for Half-Life Alyx but it was more of an one-off thing it seems.
 

SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
He and Erik Wolpaw returned for Half-Life Alyx but it was more of an one-off thing it seems.
I think only Wolpaw was actually a full fledged writer on the project, but it's good to know they consulted Laidlaw and I would expect that's the level of involvement we might see for the next one.

Wolpaw worked on Aperture Desk Job, so not sure if he is still with Valve or not.
 
Last edited:
People need to face reality. It's embarrassing at this point.

A traditional HL3 will never be a thing. HL: ALYX is the closest we'll ever get.

Valve doesn't give a shit. They're not a game dev studio anymore and haven't been for decades.

If a new HL game does eventually get announced, it will be a MP only extraction/hero shooter/battle royale trend-chasing GaaS game. Because Valve only cares about games as platforms that they can monetize into eternity.
 

Hari Seldon

Member
They will make HL3 when there is some new tech that they want to explore. Maybe using LLMs to do procedural generation is good enough? Maybe it ties in somehow with their next steam deck launch as a second screen? Or maybe they finally want to compete again in the engine tech space since Unreal is owned by their main competitor.
 

FireFly

Member
People need to face reality. It's embarrassing at this point.

A traditional HL3 will never be a thing. HL: ALYX is the closest we'll ever get.

Valve doesn't give a shit. They're not a game dev studio anymore and haven't been for decades.

If a new HL game does eventually get announced, it will be a MP only extraction/hero shooter/battle royale trend-chasing GaaS game. Because Valve only cares about games as platforms that they can monetize into eternity.
Well VR was and still is super-niche when HL: Alyx got made. And Valve isn't a monolithic entity but a bunch of shifting groups competing for attention. If a group within Valve can make a case for something "new" and interesting, it can get made.
 
Well VR was and still is super-niche when HL: Alyx got made. And Valve isn't a monolithic entity but a bunch of shifting groups competing for attention. If a group within Valve can make a case for something "new" and interesting, it can get made.

In the most idealistic sense. But a full AAA traditional game of the scope of HL3 is just unrealistic to be made by current day valve precisely because of the corporate structure that you describe.

It requires far too much resource and approval from the higher ups to get the chaotic mess of the current Valve all oriented in the same direction working on a common project. It will never happen and former Valve employees have gone on record essentially saying as much.

The best you can hope for is Valve outsourcing the game, but the company just doesn't have the appetite for projects that aren't trend-chasing and able to be monetized to death... and SP games largely aren't.
 

FireFly

Member
In the most idealistic sense. But a full AAA traditional game of the scope of HL3 is just unrealistic to be made by current day valve precisely because of the corporate structure that you describe.

It requires far too much resource and approval from the higher ups to get the chaotic mess of the current Valve all oriented in the same direction working on a common project. It will never happen and former Valve employees have gone on record essentially saying as much.

The best you can hope for is Valve outsourcing the game, but the company just doesn't have the appetite for projects that aren't trend-chasing and able to be monetized to death... and SP games largely aren't.
I agree you're not going to get a huge team working on single player campaign. But HL: Alyx was made by 80 people and Alan Wake 2 was made by 130 people. So it's still possible to produce a high quality single player experience with a smaller team, even if it's not full AAA. I think the ridiculous expectations around Half-Life 3 are a distraction from the fact that we still have reason to get excited about a new single player game made by the Half-Life: Alyx team.
 

ScHlAuChi

Member
They will make HL3 when there is some new tech that they want to explore. Maybe using LLMs to do procedural generation is good enough? Maybe it ties in somehow with their next steam deck launch as a second screen? Or maybe they finally want to compete again in the engine tech space since Unreal is owned by their main competitor.
Thats completely unrealistic - Epic has 100+ devs working on just the engine.
Even companies like CD Project Red who have a custom engine are switching to UE5 now because there is such a huge cost in terms of resources and manpower needed to handle your own tech.
So in order to compete with other modern engines, Valve would have to start from zero - the Quake based Source1+2 engine and Hammer Editor is incredibly outdated and completely useless to handle current gen assets.
So unless Valve starts to invest billions and hire hundreds of devs, its not going to happen, there is no such thing as magical tech coming out of nowhere.
 

SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
In the most idealistic sense. But a full AAA traditional game of the scope of HL3 is just unrealistic to be made by current day valve precisely because of the corporate structure that you describe.
I don't know that HL:Alyx is any smaller in scope than any other HL game. If they made a game of that size and quality but targetting more mainstream hardware, I think that would be enough for a lot of people.
 
Half Life 3 being an immersive sim is too good to be true 😂. I'd love to see it and would buy copies for myself and all my friends but, I am skeptical.

Maybe Valve, being a private corporation thus free of all the DEI nonsense, has the talent in house to pull it off and release the game of the decade? The bar is so low right now and competition so thin that they could probably sell 25M copies in a year.
 

Magic Carpet

Gold Member
As long as were dreaming.
During the Nvidia presentation in January, Gabe will walk out on stage and talk about a new partnership working with Nvidia to get full driver support for Steam OS.
And show a trailer for HL3 running on Steam OS and a 5090 with all the bells and whistles, exclusive to Steam.
 

S0ULZB0URNE

Member
As long as were dreaming.
During the Nvidia presentation in January, Gabe will walk out on stage and talk about a new partnership working with Nvidia to get full driver support for Steam OS.
And show a trailer for HL3 running on Steam OS and a 5090 with all the bells and whistles, exclusive to Steam.
That would be a nightmare.
 
Top Bottom