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French retailer selling Samsung 120Hz QLED 4K 55" TV for 999€, Xbox Series S included for free.

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The French merchant Cdiscount markets a pack including a Samsung Q80A QLED 2021 TV as well as an Xbox Series S all at 999.99 euros thanks to an immediate discount of 200 euros in addition to a promo code of 100 euros. Knowing that the TV was launched alone at 1,299 euros, and the Series S at 299 euros, it's a very good deal to grab!

WHAT TO REMEMBER ABOUT THIS SAMSUNG TV​

  • It offers a 55″ QLED panel
  • 4K 120Hz compatibility on next-gen console (HDMI 2.1)
  • The Tizen OS compatible with AirPlay and with the majority of SVOD apps
  • Bonus: the Xbox Series S console offered
Instead of 1,299.99 euros, the 55-inch Samsung Q80A QLED 2021 TV pack with the next-gen Xbox Series S console is on sale at 1,199.99 euros on Cdiscount, and thanks to the code " MOINS100E " it passes at 999.99 euros .

This is a damn good deal. Converted this is like getting a $1300+ QLED 4K Samsung TV for only $999 with a free Series S given.

If you are able to take advantage of this deal you are looking at a after taxes about $700 ($800 if you have discount credit card apparently) off the TV and Series S together based on the savings and the S being free.

The TV is good too, QLED 4k, 120 refresh rate, and HDMI 2.1 connection.

edit: retailer has already sold out as of this edit. Link redirects to TV page now, not sure if they will get more
 
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//DEVIL//

Member
First of all Thanks for the tip.

Offering something like this usually is meaningless to the casual. unless you really know what you looking for to determine if this is a good value or not.

I consider myself I am an ok when it comes to tech and TVs. but I do not know if this TV is good or not ( would check rting.com for that) then I would actually start checking the prices of the TV assuming it's good and I want to buy it. because every retailer has different pricing for different TVs during the holiday. One might find this TV much cheaper without the Xbox series S.

When it was released a year ago it was 1300 euros, but TVs don't hold prices like consoles lol. what is a 2500$ ( Canadian) Samsung Neo G9 monitor right now , would be 1700$ today or whatever.
 
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Chukhopops

Member
Good deal but I wouldn’t trust CDiscount too much, they have the worst customer service I have ever experienced personally.

I would never buy anything expensive there.
 

chonga

Member
This is a damn good deal. Converted this is like getting a $1300+ QLED 4K Samsung TV for only $999 with a free Series S given.
Except it is not.

This exact TV is for sale for $750. So it is like getting a €879 TV ($750 -> €733 + tax), for €999. So your 'free' Xbox actually costs €120.

Beyond that you can get the 2022 version of this TV for below €700 across Europe right now.

So it is not a deal at all. Just like the free Xbox Series S with a phone deal you posted. The actual item you're buying is grossly overpriced to make you think you're getting something for free, when you're not.
 

K' Dash

Member
First of all Thanks for the tip.

Offering something like this usually is meaningless to the casual. unless you really know what you looking for to determine if this is a good value or not.

I consider myself I am an ok when it comes to tech and TVs. but I do not know if this TV is good or not ( would check rting.com for that) then I would actually start checking the prices of the TV assuming it's good and I want to buy it. because every retailer has different pricing for different TVs during the holiday. One might find this TV much cheaper without the Xbox series S.

When it was released a year ago it was 1300 euros, but TVs don't hold prices like consoles lol. what is a 2500$ ( Canadian) Samsung Neo G9 monitor right now , would be 1700$ today or whatever.

The funniest part of this is that while you were rambling about your "expertise" about the tech on this deal (that is, by the way, not directed to the 1% hardcore nerd), the thing sold out.

Michael Jordan Lol GIF
 

jaysius

Banned
This TV is OK it's a "parents tv" kind of thing, I wouldn't game on it. The sound is really amazing TV speakers though.
 
I would go into the parallels of this and when Sega basically gave rebates for Dreamcasts if you signed up for SegaNET back in mid-2000 but that's probably gonna trigger people (despite how strong the parallels are).

Also I thought Microsoft had a GamePass/xCloud client being built into Samsung smart TVs? Is this TV not a smart TV? If it is and has that client, isn't the Series S kind of redundant to throw in? They're both portals into GamePass but the casual buying the TV would just stick to accessing it through the smart TV app in most cases.

Personally I'd be more interested in the $190 Series X Target deal currently going on. Pretty good price for a cheap GamePass and emulator box TBH.

The funniest part of this is that while you were rambling about your "expertise" about the tech on this deal (that is, by the way, not directed to the 1% hardcore nerd), the thing sold out.

Michael Jordan Lol GIF

We're probably talking about a few thousand of these bundles at most, I'm not surprised they would have sold out. The question is was it primarily for the TV or for the Series S?
 
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PJX

Member
Nothing says demand, like giving it away free with other stuff.

Remember, these are flying off the shelves though.
I see what you are saying but Sony was giving PS4s away with a purchase of their TV back in the day. So was Curry and PC World. At least in England they were. I know because that's how I got my PS4.
 

Sleepwalker

Member
I see what you are saying but Sony was giving PS4s away with a purchase of their TV back in the day. So was Curry and PC World. At least in England they were. I know because that's how I got my PS4.
In my country they still bundle ps5s with their high end tvs, but they are not cheap bundles.
 

GHG

Member
That hard to sell Samsung TVs standalone?

The Q80A really isn't a good TV and it's a 2021 model. If you must (you shouldn't at these prices) get a QLED then don't go any lower than the Q90 series. The only exception being the Q85B only if you're only going to be gaming on it and nothing else.
 
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Skifi28

Member
"walk inside the store, get a free XBSS."

Just about the only deal I've not seen yet.
 
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XSS is also sold 229€ on Amazon.fr. At this price it's only 23rd on the best seller list. Good, but not great. They really should have made more XSX instead as those are very quickly sold at full price there.

https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B087VM5XC6/

They did make more Series X. It's just harder to make.

There's clearly some kind of MS / Samsung deal. They're the first to get the Xbox Cloud App built in also.

LG has it for some TVs iirc.

Nothing says demand, like giving it away free with other stuff.

Remember, these are flying off the shelves though.

They are.

You're confusing them producing a lot of stock to sell for promos as it not selling.

I would go into the parallels of this and when Sega basically gave rebates for Dreamcasts if you signed up for SegaNET back in mid-2000 but that's probably gonna trigger people (despite how strong the parallels are).

Because the parallel is weak Sega wasn't selling9 Dreamcasts, Microsoft is selling Series S consoles and clearly produced a boat load of them for these promos in multiple countries. There's clearly MORE S stock out there than there was two months ago during this month and the promos show this as well. If they didn't produce more consoles and did these deals THEN there would be parallels.

Also I thought Microsoft had a GamePass/xCloud client being built into Samsung smart TVs? Is this TV not a smart TV? If it is and has that client, isn't the Series S kind of redundant to throw in? They're both portals into GamePass but the casual buying the TV would just stick to accessing it through the smart TV app in most cases.

It has long been proven that cloud gaming TVs aren't taking off, for now, and that consumers still want hardware, for now.

We're probably talking about a few thousand of these bundles at most, I'm not surprised they would have sold out. The question is was it primarily for the TV or for the Series S?

It would seem likely it's the Series S since the same TV by itself can be gotten cheaper elsewhere. The combo of the two together makes it so they can raise the price of the TV but give the out free, still giving consumers a hefty overall discount.

Except it is not.

This exact TV is for sale for $750. So it is like getting a €879 TV ($750 -> €733 + tax), for €999. So your 'free' Xbox actually costs €120.

Beyond that you can get the 2022 version of this TV for below €700 across Europe right now.

So it is not a deal at all. Just like the free Xbox Series S with a phone deal you posted. The actual item you're buying is grossly overpriced to make you think you're getting something for free, when you're not.

This only applies if the TV is $750 at the same retailer.

If not, then it's a deal for those who aren't looking to comparison shop (most people).

If so, well the marketing did the trick and they sold them out anyway.
 
Because the parallel is weak Sega wasn't selling9 Dreamcasts, Microsoft is selling Series S consoles and clearly produced a boat load of them for these promos in multiple countries. There's clearly MORE S stock out there than there was two months ago during this month and the promos show this as well. If they didn't produce more consoles and did these deals THEN there would be parallels.

The sales in absolute numbers aren't what form the parallels; it's the underlying factors driving the scenarios at the relative points of the lifecycles of the consoles. The gaming market was notably smaller as a whole in 1999/2000 than it is in 2022. Microsoft is flush with magnitudes more cash and big income streams to offset eating costs on this type of strategy than Sega had back in 1999 or 2000.

There have been more Series S stocks out for months prior to these deals, relative to availability to all other consoles including the Switch. The stock being that much larger now is the addition of more systems adding to stock surpluses that were already accruing over the past months. A games console, a product viable in the biggest entertainment industry in the world, doesn't need steep pricing discounts or sales promotions two years into a cycle if it is selling strongly off big demand.

That's just the fact of the matter. It has no indictment on the quality of the product itself, FWIW, in absolute terms of how a specialist or fan who has done some fair research would come to view it.

It has long been proven that cloud gaming TVs aren't taking off, for now, and that consumers still want hardware, for now.

Then why are MS pushing for GamePass apps on Samsung and other smart TVs? Why push for xCloud on mobile? Their own actions seem to show they believe opposite to what you claim.

And the implications in acknowledging something like cloud gaming, if it's indeed niche, just makes some of their other decisions, such as not investing into a mass-market consumer gaming VR/AR device, all the more odd.

It would seem likely it's the Series S since the same TV by itself can be gotten cheaper elsewhere. The combo of the two together makes it so they can raise the price of the TV but give the out free, still giving consumers a hefty overall discount.

I mean that's one way to interpret it, I suppose. It is kind of funny that it's a 4K TV, though, considering the Series S has struggled to provide native 4K in most of the games released so far, and worst upsampled resolutions from lower base resolutions in games than PS5 and Series X.
 
The sales in absolute numbers aren't what form the parallels; it's the underlying factors driving the scenarios at the relative points of the lifecycles of the consoles. The gaming market was notably smaller as a whole in 1999/2000 than it is in 2022. Microsoft is flush with magnitudes more cash and big income streams to offset eating costs on this type of strategy than Sega had back in 1999 or 2000.

MS is not doing these promos for the same reason the DC and the GC were doing them, more aggressively, in desperations, while losing money, and press thinking they were on the cusp of being taken off the shelves and folding.

There have been more Series S stocks out for months prior to these deals, relative to availability to all other consoles including the Switch. The stock being that much larger now is the addition of more systems adding to stock surpluses that were already accruing over the past months.

No proof of any previous stock surplus. The S was actually in many areas harder to find than the switch, S being close to normal stock levels is not "surplus" you are trying to pretend the Series X and PS5 stock situation is normal, it's not. S is actually close to being normal and still selling despite stock on the shelves like the Switch The additional production is because MS is expecting to sell a lot of S this holiday and wanted to take advantage of the gains

You don't make more consoles for a dead product you keep making up number for.

Then why are MS pushing for GamePass apps on Samsung and other smart TVs? Why push for xCloud on mobile? Their own actions seem to show they believe opposite to what you claim.

And the implications in acknowledging something like cloud gaming, if it's indeed niche, just makes some of their other decisions, such as not investing into a mass-market consumer gaming VR/AR device, all the more odd.

To make money?

you are grossly underestimating how much money these services bring in. On A smart TV there isn't even a console to deal with so 500,000 gamepass subs for 2 years through TV's LG or Samsung is $180 million in cash, and that's not including games they buy on discount through it, MTX, dlc, or anything outside of the services like buying another controller or other accessories. So that can easily be around $500 million. That's with only 500,000 adopters.

Xcloud reaches 1 million game pass subs that stick around for just 2 years is $360 milll, add in much of those subs doing extra spending and that can be over $1 billion easily. Some of those subs will of course have it for more than 2 years increasing the money exponentially. That's just one million subs.

In the event XS consoles sell let's say for example 90 million consoles and TV only had 1 million and Xcloud only had 5, t8hat's 6 million extra from outside the consoles (we aren't even including PC yet.) and that 6 million subs at MINIMUM is $2.2 billion extra, and that's NOT including anything else just the subs, and for those there's no expense for Microsoft because they don't have to push hardware. The only thing they have to do is make sure there's software there to attract the right people.

In this scenario only 6 million subs outside Xbox and PC is niche, very small, and yet $2.2 billion MINIMUM but likely $3-$4 billion after all the additional costs and accessories. That's just for subs in a 2 year period. 4 year period? Double the numbers, $4.4 billion with potential of $7-8 billion after other costs.

TV's and Xcloud don't need to take off or replace consoles, they only have to grab a bit of that potential audience to have a large flow of cash.

You are also assuming they are marketing both much more than they actually are, especially outside gamer circles.

I mean that's one way to interpret it, I suppose. It is kind of funny that it's a 4K TV, though, considering the Series S has struggled to provide native 4K in most of the games released so far, and worst upsampled resolutions from lower base resolutions in games than PS5 and Series X.

Yet on the right TV's, still looks better on 4K tv's than a 1080p one. Whether it can su6pport it properly isn't really relevant just like those who have Bluray players connected to their 4K Tv's, or the upscale players. Those aren't 4K blurays but they still look better on 4K than 1080p.

Regardless there isn't much point here. 4K TV is cheaper than normal, and now it comes with a free Series S at no additional cost that can give you a better experience than built-in Gamepass (if that TV even supports it), and it can be used for other displays.
 
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