StereoVsn
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Actually that’s a good point. If $350 holds for XSX then maybe? Strangely enough XSS isn’t really being discounted all that much in US.
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European Monthly Charts November 2023 | PS5 #1 +376% YOY, Switch #2 -35% YOY and Xbox series S/X #3 -26% YOY
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Alex Scott
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MisterXDTV
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54k?
At this point I need a big Apology
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At this point I need a big Apology
Xbox as a console brand seems to be really dying lately can Scarlett change that or will it be a short lived project?
There was more hype around Xbox Scorpio than there is around Scarlett , Xbox One X started off with a nice push from Microsoft but it seems like they quickly gave up on it you can get a Xbox One X for $402 right now but no one seems to care that it's $97 off . You can get the Xbox One S A.D for...
SimTourist
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Thirty7ven
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Unknown?
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Disney has been flop after flop, no surprise a dead IP chooses a dead console.
gokurho
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Game sales dip but PS5 drives console market up 60% | European Monthly Charts
Europe posted a solid month for video game sales during November, driven by Call of Duty, EA Sports FC 24 and PS5. 24.6…www.gamesindustry.biz
meaningless numbers
MS dont focus on console sales
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SimTourist
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They need to clean house hard. The fat bastard Greenburger has been head of marketing for years and there's precisely zero marketing being done for Xbox aside from conspiracy theorist twitter nutjobs.
Heisenberg007
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StereoVsn
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I stand corrected. Maybe MS will hit that 1mil with these discounts.
Yeah, the decision making process at Disney has been “interesting“ over the last few years.
H-I-M
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demigod
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They are having firesales on both x series.
killatopak
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Jim Ryan’s last swan song to his continent.
Daneel Elijah
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It sound better.
demigod
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If sales don’t matter, why are they massively dropping the prices of both consoles trying to win December genius?meaningless numbers
MS dont focus on console sales
gokurho
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scarlet0pimp
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why have they not been trying till now though, it does seem odd. Literally zero xbox marketing for the past 2 years at least in UK and Europe. Only in the last month have adverts started to appear even then its not like they are all over the place like PS5 adverts which I see every day driving to work or taking a train.
HeWhoWalks
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GHG
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Portugeezer
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Great for PS, but they need some strong competition... badly.
ChorizoPicozo
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it's going to be fun to see how the xbox podcasters "report" this news.
twilo99
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I guess $350 is almost free and unfortunately that’s nowhere near as free in Europe anyway where for whatever reason they haven’t done such heavy discounts.
I do agree that even then it won’t make much difference to the euro market..
Unknown?
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Because they used to be able to spin numbers. They are now so bad that spinning would no longer be a half truth but a full on lie.
Won't make a difference in the US either. December will be just as bad on Circana. Most gifts have been bought already. Had they cit the price at the end of November or very least beginning of the month, it may have stopped the bleeding
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I think its bigger than this gen. I feel the console brand as a whole is over and they are moving out inventory.
Heisenberg007
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"Xbox Outsells PlayStation in Europe During Black Friday 2023"
According to GFK data, shared by Chris Dring of gamesindustry.biz, Xbox Series X|S console comfortably outsold the popular PlayStation 4 during this year's Black Friday. Chris Dring did not share PS4 sales data. Other consoles included in the data were Nintendo Switch Online and PlayStation 5.
HeWhoWalks
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Wait, that was really a paragraph they typed?
Dude is a joke from Heisenberg, but to be honest is not that much dystopian.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
"Xbox doesn't need Europe."
"Xbox gaming is much bigger than just consoles. "
"Things will change when the software flood gates open next year"
"The PS5 sales number are fake, Sony is sitting on 20 million unsold PS5s and is in deep financial trouble."
"Consoles? The future is the cloud, old man!"
"Once people realize the value of Gamepass, PS is dead."
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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I'm from Europe and I paid €400 (20% VAT included) for my SX just last week. If we remove the sales tax we get €333 which converts to $365. Not sure if MS can sell the Series X lower than that; they'll be losing a considerable amount of $ per each unit sold.
HeWhoWalks
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Anyway, I thought it was a joke, but then, I've seen headlines spin numbers like that before, so it wouldn't have surprised me.
ArcaneNLSC
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ChorizoPicozo
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well, i only listen to two xbox podcast (Xbox Two and Defining Duke)
in the last 3 weeks or so, it feels like something broke inside them. They have a hard time acknowledging how bad the xbox situation is but still have hope for the future, all this talk about going third party really is messing up with them. Probably they will not even really talk about these numbers anyway, they will report and say: "Wait until CoD" and move on to another topic.
AyraSutoraifu
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Poor Timdog and his imaginary children...
Cyberpunkd
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Phil's backyard.
ArcaneNLSC
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Luminoth-4545
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Last years numbers for comparison, credit: enpleinjour from installbase for providing last years numbers
Nov 2022:
NSW - 411K
PS5 - 205.5K
XBS - 73.5K
Nov 2023:
PS5 - 978K (+376%)
NSW - 267K (-35%)
XBS - 54K (-26%)
Nov 2022:
NSW - 411K
PS5 - 205.5K
XBS - 73.5K
Nov 2023:
PS5 - 978K (+376%)
NSW - 267K (-35%)
XBS - 54K (-26%)
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Woopah
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Mario showing insanely good legs, and I think that's pretty good/great performance from Spiderman, Assasin's Creed and Football Manager too.
Agreed. Sony has done their part for the industry, Nintnedo need to cut the Switch price in ealry 2024 to stem the delcine, and then launch Switch 2 before the holidays.
Agreed. Sony has done their part for the industry, Nintnedo need to cut the Switch price in ealry 2024 to stem the delcine, and then launch Switch 2 before the holidays.
Pelta88
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You forgot about "The tools."
demigod
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Pretty sure i’ve seen their fanboys typed all of this on twitter.
Interfectum
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Luminoth-4545
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With October and November data now released this is what i'm predicting for Global shipments in Q3. NSW and XBS will be down in all region and PS5 will be down in the U.S but massively up in Europe and moderately up in Japan.
Oct - Dec 2022
NSW - 8.22M
PS5 - 7.10M
XBS - 3.50M
Oct - Dec 2023 prediction
PS5 - 9.90M
NSW - 6.15M
XBS - 3.30M
Oct - Dec 2022
NSW - 8.22M
PS5 - 7.10M
XBS - 3.50M
Oct - Dec 2023 prediction
PS5 - 9.90M
NSW - 6.15M
XBS - 3.30M
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NickFire
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The MS numbers have gotten ridiculously bad. But sure, why not, just keep spending the Office money and carrying on with business as usual so the failed leadership can reap praise from evangelicals and media that want to sell ads.
Or do the sensible thing and pivot. Replace leadership with people that celebrate success by return on investment instead of vapor metrics that shift whenever something flops. Stop trying to buy success and focus on creating successful gaming endeavors instead.
Or do the sensible thing and pivot. Replace leadership with people that celebrate success by return on investment instead of vapor metrics that shift whenever something flops. Stop trying to buy success and focus on creating successful gaming endeavors instead.