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[ManaByte]

Or maybe a waste of brain cells

 

[LectureMaster]

 

[Generic]

Back in the day Howard Stern would say the best bits involved conflict because it gets the most listeners. Makes sense since it's hilarious to see idiots publicly making asses of themselves. But if the host can reap in the viewers hoping to make money off it they'll take it.

I wouldnt take anything Jaffe has to day serious unless it has to do with game development during his heydays 20 years ago. He had a really good long interview I listened to maybe an hour of it with the fat guy from Days Gone. When Jaffe is talking business and industry, he makes interesting points.

When he rambles unprepared looking for clicks, he sounds foolish and desperate for attention. Asmongold picks his videos apart as if he's the seasoned game vet, not Jaffe.

Asmongold never created a game and never will.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

LOL

Commentators on Youtube killed your product. Be sure to always kill messengers.

 

[grvg]

Those heckin YouTube grifters are at it again, sticking it to the poor innocent multinational corporations

 

[Aenima]

I told Jaffe that this crusade wasn't going to end well (for him). He has destroyed the little reputation he had as an insightful videogame commentator. It was over (for me) when he praised Starfield after talking too much shit about how games had poorly paced beginnings

he stepped in shit on purpose, and now he is covered in the mess

The little respect i had for Jaffe is now gone. Reducing Vara Dark work and success due to her hair, face and because shes a woman? What a dumb sexist take to have from someone roleplaying as a left wing virtue signaler.

 

[CLW]

YouTube grifters and Incels

 

[Trogdor1123]

Has it actually been killed? Do we know the numbers?

 

[Northeastmonk]

Angry Joe nailed it just by showing examples from the previous DA games. The hate is coming from people who paid for and played these games for well over a decade. It’s not like this is a brand new IP.

 

[Shodai]

At his age this is just sad.

 

[DaciaJC]

The little respect i had for Jaffe is now gone. Reducing Vara Dark work and success due to her hair, face and because shes a woman? What a dumb sexist take to have from someone roleplaying as a left wing virtue signaler.

Sooner or later, the hypocrisy of these types is bound to show through.

 

[Joramun]

Corporations did the same with movie and tv audiences.
Called them sexist or racist when they destroyed a product with woke garbage.

 

[Kamina]

Imagine experiencing Vailguard with it’s bad dialogues, especially those with condescending language, horrible character creator and obnoxious characters like Taash, but then conclude that some people on YouTube are the cause of it’s demise.

 

[Rocky_Balboa]

Speaking of David Jaffe, does anyone remember an interview where the interviewer asked something like "If you could be anyone in the games industry, who and why?". His answer was Jane Raymond and because he would play with himself.

 

[laynelane]

Oh the drama. Jaffe said something to the effect that Vara Dark only has her position because of her hair and sex. Which is a weird thing for someone apparently left-leaning to say. She's got a couple of guys riding to the rescue, but here is her response. It's twitter level nonsense, but it's a spinoff of the "grifter" argument so maybe relevant. Or maybe a waste of brain cells, your call. I think they both like drama/conflict and the clicks it generates.

I haven't watched her reply, but did see a bit of his rant about her. It was pretty bad. Like, he was one step away from telling her to get back in the kitchen. I couldn't help but think he's just another 'progressive' person showing who they really are.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Speaking of David Jaffe, does anyone remember an interview where the interviewer asked something like "If you could be anyone in the games industry, who and why?". His answer was Jane Raymond and because he would play with himself.

No wonder she needed an 8-foot buffer at all times from all the Jaffes in the back here. If the real Jaffe worked there he'd probably be in the back row per an email from HR.

 

[Quixz]

Speaking of David Jaffe, does anyone remember an interview where the interviewer asked something like "If you could be anyone in the games industry, who and why?". His answer was Jane Raymond and because he would play with himself.

Yikes!

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Speaking of David Jaffe, does anyone remember an interview where the interviewer asked something like "If you could be anyone in the games industry, who and why?". His answer was Jane Raymond and because he would play with himself.

 

[Bernardougf]

Imagine experiencing Vailguard with it’s bad dialogues, especially those with condescending language, horrible character creator and obnoxious characters like Taash, but then conclude that some people on YouTube are the cause of it’s demise.

Wokeness is a mental desease and a cult at the same time .... these type of persons and their supporters usually are incapable of culpability or seeing the real problem .... so they will never acknowledge that woke/dei/feminism is the thing causing failures in products they are trying to make.

 

[BbMajor7th]

How you are going to write the real interaction between a straight guy and a woman if you dont have anyone present who know how it works ? Only young blue hair feminists, trans, beta males, etc... or how you put real friends talk in games when you only have people that have weekly group safe space positivity therapy sessions and not real world talk friendship and outside experiences ?

It is fascinating that the generation of writers and creatives now coming up are largely the type that don't really engage with the world. They live quite pedestrian, highly risk-averse lives where hot sauce and coffee are the equivalents of opiates and barbituates, an all-night bender is fueled by snacks and trash TV, a memorable and messy sexual encounter is a 'spicy fan-fic', a back-alley punch up is a Twitter spat and breaking the law means streaming TV shows from an unofficial site, rather than Netflix or Prime.

And that's the thing: when you live the life of an ascetic, you can't expect to faithfully or meaningfully explore, in fiction, lives that are far removed from that: when you try to describe a mind-numbing hangover you've never had, or the hot and heavy sex you've only ever read about, it comes out cringy, clumsy and unrelatable and people who have had those experiences will know the difference.

As the poet W. H. Auden once told the composer Benjamin Britten (both incidentally gay men), it was to the detriment of the artist to ensconce themselves in a 'warm next of love' where they could 'play the talented child' - that an artist had to go out there and live life if he or she wanted to represent it meaningfully. At the time, Auden was dodging bullets as a volunteer ambulance driver in the Spanish Civil War and Britten (who would later be a conscientious objector in the Second World War and move out to America to avoid being caught up in the conflict) was complaining that the world stood to lose more in Auden's capacity as a poet, than Spanish stood to gain in his capacity as an ambulance driver.

 

[Humdinger]

Has it actually been killed? Do we know the numbers?

"Killed" is hyperbole. It's no Concord. "Under-performing" is probably a better term, although not as exciting. No one has solid numbers yet, but there are multiple indicators it isn't performing up to expectations, given development/marketing costs. Circana's November rankings may help to shed further light.

 

[Dazraell]

Has it actually been killed? Do we know the numbers?

I mean, the game is out for more than a month and EA hasn't published any press note about the game selling X millions copies, Schreier who was gloating on twitter the game was a success by posting Steam peak numbers has stealthily deleted that post, devs aren't working on any DLCs and already moved on to a next project. I wouldn't say it's a complete failure, but I don't think it was successful either and most likely sales were below EA's expectations

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Has it actually been killed? Do we know the numbers?

it's a flop, that's for sure

 

[Harlock]

This is a lot of fun. Is a react to react to react.

 

[Kamina]

YouTube grifters and Incels

Captain Chud

 

[Phobos Base]

I mean, the game is out for more than a month and EA hasn't published any press note about the game selling X millions copies, Schreier who was gloating on twitter the game was a success by posting Steam peak numbers has stealthily deleted that post, devs aren't working on any DLCs and already moved on to a next project. I wouldn't say it's a complete failure, but I don't think it was successful either and most likely sales were below EA's expectations

But...but the journalists all told me it was Bioware's return to form?

 

[Dazraell]

But...but the journalists all told me it was Bioware's return to form?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Speaking of David Jaffe, does anyone remember an interview where the interviewer asked something like "If you could be anyone in the games industry, who and why?". His answer was Jane Raymond and because he would play with himself.

Jaffe is also the guy who claimed Tencent offered $100M to make a game.

And he turned it down because he doesn’t like Tencent or the Chinese government.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I mean, the game is out for more than a month and EA hasn't published any press note about the game selling X millions copies, Schreier who was gloating on twitter the game was a success by posting Steam peak numbers has stealthily deleted that post, devs aren't working on any DLCs and already moved on to a next project. I wouldn't say it's a complete failure, but I don't think it was successful either and most likely sales were below EA's expectations

"Killed" is hyperbole. It's no Concord. "Under-performing" is probably a better term, although not as exciting. No one has solid numbers yet, but there are multiple indicators it isn't performing up to expectations, given development/marketing costs. Circana's November rankings may help to shed further light.

I think that with the marketing budget and the plethora of outlets / gaming reviewers they paid off they have developed good relationships with and that pumped their games as much as they could to drive preorders and sales before word of mouth would kick in… it must be a big disappointment for EA’s number crunchers…

 

[Panajev2001a]

Imagine experiencing Vailguard with it’s bad dialogues, especially those with condescending language, horrible character creator and obnoxious characters like Taash, but then conclude that some people on YouTube are the cause of it’s demise.

The thing is that even if it were true this was called “consequences” culture when people complained about influencers and game reviewers mobbing game developers to try to make their games fail… so well…

 

[PatientGamer]

This guy is unbelievably messy. No employer would touch him with a bargepole with the way he's handled himself in professional environments.

Red flags everywhere.