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AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT is turning out to be a completely different RDNA 3 'Navi 31' GPU-powered beast in the latest rumors from Greymon55. The leaker has reported that based on new info, AMD has created a much more powerful design than previously anticipated.

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT, The Flagship RDNA 3 'Navi 31' GPU Powered Graphics Card, Could Offer Over 3 GHz Clock Speeds & Almost 100 TFLOPs of Performance​

Over the last couple of days, there have been several sightings of the AMD RDNA 3 (GFX11) GPUs which have started appearing within the LLVM project within the Linux operating system's drivers and development tools. It looks like AMD is working on at least four new GPUs for now which have been confirmed through their ID leak which is as follows (Credits: @Kepler_L2):

• GFX (1100) - Possible Navi 31 GPU
• GFX (1101) - Possible Navi 32 GPU
• GFX (1102) - Possible Navi 33 GPU
• (GFX 1103) - Possible Phoenix APU

Now while these IDs don't reveal much information such as specs or configs, they do tell us that preliminary support is being added and soon, these GPUs will begin testing within the respective platforms for optimized performance delivery. But this topic isn't about the leaked IDs, it's about the latest rumor surrounding the flagship RDNA 3 GPU, the Navi 31, which is going to power the Radeon RX 7900 series cards.



As per the latest rumor from Greymon55, it looks like the clock speeds have seen a major boost from 2.5 GHz to now hovering around and even above the 3 GHz frequency mark. What this will mean is that the flagship chip with 15360 stream processors will be able to deliver almost 100.0 TFLOPs of FP32 compute performance (92 TFLOPs to be precise). That is without adding the OC limits which will definitely help it push closer to the already-close 100 TFLOPs barrier.\

Upcoming Flagship AMD, Intel, NVIDIA GPU Specs (Preliminary)​

GPU Name	AD102	Navi 31	Xe2-HPG
Codename	Ada Lovelace	RDNA 3	Battlemage
Flagship SKU	GeForce RTX 4090 Series	Radeon RX 7900 Series	Arc B900 Series
GPU Process	TSMC 4N	TSMC 5nm+ TSMC 6nm	TSCM 5nm?
GPU Package	Monolithic	MCD (Multi-Chiplet Die)	MCM (Multi-Chiplet Module)
GPU Dies	Mono x 1	2 x GCD + 4 x MCD + 1 x IOD	Quad-Tile (tGPU)
GPU Mega Clusters	12 GPCs (Graphics Processing Clusters)	6 Shader Engines	10 Render Slices
GPU Super Clusters	72 TPC (Texture Processing Clusters)	30 WGPs (Per MCD) 60 WGPs (In Total)	40 Xe-Cores (Per Tile) 160 Xe-Cores (Total)
GPU Clusters	144 Stream Multiprocessors (SM)	120 Compute Units (CU) 240 Compute Units (in total)	1280 Xe VE (Per Tile) 5120 Xe VE (In Total)
Cores (Per Die)	18432 CUDA Cores	7680 SPs (Per GCD) 15360 SPs (In Total)	20480 ALUs (In Total)
Peak Clock	~2.85 GHz	~3.0 GHz	TBD
FP32 Compute	~105 TFLOPs	~92 TFLOPs	TBD
Memory Type	GDDR6X	GDDR6	GDDR6?
Memory Capacity	24 GB	32 GB	TBD
Memory Bus	384-bit	256-bit	TBD
Memory Speeds	~21 Gbps	~18 Gbps	TBD
Cache Subsystems	96 MB L2 Cache	512 MB (Infinity Cache)	TBD
TBP	~600W	~500W	TBD
Launch	Q4 2022	Q4 2022	2023

Source: https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xt-rdna-3-navi-31-gpu-graphics-card-100-tflops-3-ghz-rumor/

 

[Chiggs]

Meanwhile at Intel....

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Price??
Like a used Car??

 

[JohnnyFootball]

WHo needs heaters in the winter when you can buy a next gen GPU? Geez.

I am disappointed that AMD hasn't upped the memory bandwidth. Feels like a lot of performance is being left on the table.

 

[winjer]

WHo needs heaters in the winter when you can buy a next gen GPU? Geez.

I am disappointed that AMD hasn't upped the memory bandwidth. Feels like a lot of performance is being left on the table.

3d Infinity cache.
This will also reduce memory accesses, reducing power usage.

 

[SantaC]

Fuck yeah! Intel is done before they even started. Fuck intel haha

 

[Imtjnotu]

All this to still get wiped by Nvidia.

 

[ZywyPL]

It's cool and all, but with non-existent RT performance none of it will matter, so hopefully AMD have stepped up their GPUs in that aspect.

 

[MightySquirrel]

This is like what 5x ps5 ? How good PS5 Pro gonna be?

 

[alucard0712_rus]

500+w? Water-cooled only GPUs?

 

[FingerBang]

Damn dawg. The jump from this gen to next is going to be massive.

This is like what 5x ps5 ? How good PS5 Pro gonna be?

We use GameCubes to measure it properly.
But don't expect a console with similar chips to come at $500

 

[Celcius]

Dat 32GB vram mmmmmm

 

[SeraphJan]

AMD is going to charge a premium for this thing

 

[BennyBlanco]

Curious how RT performance will play out. Nvidia and AMD cornering the market on space heaters.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

How much money are we talking about?

 

[SeraphJan]

Curious how RT performance will play out. Nvidia and AMD cornering the market on space heaters.

RDNA 3 RT rumored to be 3 times better than RDNA 2, Meanwhile Nvidia Lovelace is rumored to be not far from 2 times (something like 1.8 times) compared to Ampere, so Nvidia might still have a RT lead, but not by much this time.

This Gen GPU is more like this - AMD had slight better rasterization, Nvidia had slightly better RT, FSR 2 is a bit inferior to DLSS 3, but AMD draw way less power compare to Nvidia (which could up to 650W and even more), and their price is likely to be similar

 

[WitchHunter]

500W... Broken tech... idiocy... bullshit wars.

Expect NV to announce more raydance, upscaling 1080p to 8K tech + quantum compute.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I can't believe intel haven't got their gpus out yet. Last news I heard it was landing around 3070 performance....which would have been fine 3 months ago.

They gonna get pimp slapped if next gen arrives in time for their launch.

 

[Ozriel]

Fuck yeah! Intel is done before they even started. Fuck intel haha

Why would you as a consumer not want more options?

 

[JohnnyFootball]

RDNA 3 RT rumored to be 3 times better than RDNA 2, Meanwhile Nvidia Lovelace is rumored to be not far from 2 times (something like 1.8 times) compared to Ampere, so Nvidia might still have a RT lead, but not by much this time.

This Gen GPU is more like this - AMD had slight better rasterization, Nvidia had slightly better RT, FSR 2 is a bit inferior to DLSS 3, but AMD draw way less power compare to Nvidia (which could up to 650W and even more), and their price is likely to be similar

Ill believe it when I see it, as RT performance for any GPU still leaves a LOT to be desired.

 

[StateofMajora]

Dat 32GB vram mmmmmm

Don't you know, you only need 8GB

But seriously 32gb will never be used by the card in gaming, good for 3d modeling and production stuff though. For gaming all the 4070+ tier cards should have 16gb and Nvidia can stop being a cheap con artist

 

[winjer]

The big question is if RDNA3 and Ada Lovelace will reanimate the mining on GPU market.
If it does, the remaining consumers are f*****

 

[Dream-Knife]

The big question is when will the Radeon division get their drivers sorted out. IIRC idle memory spikes are still happening.

 

[SantaC]

Why would you as a consumer not want more options?

Because intel is greedy and raja is not trustworthy.

 

[Sanepar]

I Hope 7800 consumes 250w max and offers at least 30 tflops.

 

[StateofMajora]

Why would you as a consumer not want more options?

Yeah man, wtf is wrong with people. We already have heard intel might have not have the strongest cards for their gen 1 lineup, but if the price to performance is there and the drivers are good, why not buy intel?

Esp. since they have a real dlss competitor.

Fanboys of cpu/graphics are even dumber than console fanboys

 

[Dream-Knife]

This is like what 5x ps5 ? How good PS5 Pro gonna be?

That is about 10 PS5s.

Because intel is greedy and raja is not trustworthy.

All corporations are greedy. Did you not just watch what Nvidia, AMD, MS, and Sony have all done in the last year? At least Intel is boosting American manufacturing.

 

[StateofMajora]

Because intel is greedy and raja is not trustworthy.

Vega 56 and polaris were good products.

 

[TheRedRiders]

RDNA 3 RT rumored to be 3 times better than RDNA 2, Meanwhile Nvidia Lovelace is rumored to be not far from 2 times (something like 1.8 times) compared to Ampere, so Nvidia might still have a RT lead, but not by much this time.

This Gen GPU is more like this - AMD had slight better rasterization, Nvidia had slightly better RT, FSR 2 is a bit inferior to DLSS 3, but AMD draw way less power compare to Nvidia (which could up to 650W and even more), and their price is likely to be similar

Some of the leakers are backtracking on the 3x RT performance claim. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

My hunch is similar to yours, I think AMD will ahead in rasterisation and Nvidia will edge them out in RT.

However DLSS 3 vs FSR 2? Now that's where things get interesting. DLSS 2 is already such a big advantage.

 

[Kazekage1981]

would anybody be able to tell the difference between 92 TFLOPS and 105 TFLOPS? I don't think TFLOPS is relevant anymore..

i personally think it all comes down to cost/performance ratio, if you can get 4k 60fps stable with HDR, VRR, RT, i personally think AMD will win..

If Sony were to make PS5Pro, the number TFLOPS would not be miniscule even if Sony tried because the microarchitecture wouldn't allow it. 10.3 TFLOPS to 80-100 TFLOPS is fucking huge...

Does RDNA 3 have Machine Learning aka Deep Learning aka Neural cores like NVIDIA? Will Intel have ML cores built in to the GPU as well? AMD better not forget

 

[Klik]

Would love to see RTX 4080 around 60-80TF.

I bought used RTX 3060 because i will upgrade to new one when it comes this year.I know we shouldn't compare consoles vs pc but almost 7x-8x more powerful GPU than PS5 is amazing. Unreal engine 5 and next gen graphics are gonna be incredible on PC.

Imagine moded GTA 6..

 

[Klik]

would anybody be able to tell the difference between 92 TFLOPS and 105 TFLOPS? I don't think TFLOPS is relevant anymore..

i personally think it all comes down to cost/performance ratio, if you can get 4k 60fps stable with HDR, VRR, RT, i personally think AMD will win..

If Sony were to make PS5Pro, the number TFLOPS would not be miniscule even if Sony tried because the microarchitecture wouldn't allow it. 10.3 TFLOPS to 80-100 TFLOPS is fucking huge...

Does RDNA 3 have Machine Learning aka Deep Learning aka Neural cores like NVIDIA? Will Intel have ML cores built in to the GPU as well? AMD better not forget

Always wondered if 4k is worth it on PC right now or with RTX 4xxx. Seems that 1440p 144hz would be better? I don't know if that's much difference between 1440p and 4k on 27" monitor..

 

[Kazekage1981]

Always wondered if 4k is worth it on PC right now or with RTX 4xxx. Seems that 1440p 144hz would be better? I don't know if that's much difference between 1440p and 4k on 27" monitor..

Advancements in QD-OLED, MiniLED, MicroLED, OLED, HDMI 2.1, HDR10+, Dolby Vision, Upscaling AI Processors should make 4k more appealing..

 

[DeepEnigma]

I don’t believe 100TFs

 

[Knightime_X]

Can't wait to pay $4,000

 

[StateofMajora]

I don’t believe 100TFs

It's probably true but we are past the point where it matters.

TF is the new bits

 

[Epic Sax CEO]

What pleases me is that the next generation APUs, now thanks to Intel renewed competition, will not lag behind anymore. It'll be Zen 4 + RDNA3, and the iGPU part will be bigger, it seems.
These new APUs should kill a bit more the low end segment.

It's probably true but we are past the point where it matters.

TF is the new bits

But RDNA Flops aren't inflated like Ampere's Flops.
The only thing we need to question is if the memory will keep up, because all points out RDNA3 will really heavy on Infinity Cache (L3) and stacked cache (L4?).

 

[StateofMajora]

What pleases me is that the next generation APUs, now thanks to Intel renewed competition, will not lag behind anymore. It'll be Zen 4 + RDNA3, and the iGPU part will be bigger, it seems.
These new APUs should kill a bit more the low end segment.



But RDNA Flops aren't inflated like Ampere's Flops.
The only thing we need to question is if the memory will keep up, because all points out RDNA3 will really heavy on Infinity Cache (L3) and stacked cache (L4?).

Ampere isn't inflated either.

It's just that more things matter than TF. I am sure you know of the vega vs. pascal battle where vega had much more "TF" but lost.

 

[ZywyPL]

Always wondered if 4k is worth it on PC right now or with RTX 4xxx. Seems that 1440p 144hz would be better? I don't know if that's much difference between 1440p and 4k on 27" monitor..

For desktop experience, 1440p144Hz is absolutely, infinitely better, but for living room and its 4K TV sets this is where all the power will go.

But still, with 80-100TF and games build around 10-12TF, I guess 4K @120 will be like a walk in the park.

 

[SportsFan581]

Why would you as a consumer not want more options?

Intel probably won't compete much in the gaming space anyway, at least at first. But, they might do wonders for availability if lower-level production users snatch them up.

 

[Haint]

RDNA 3 RT rumored to be 3 times better than RDNA 2, Meanwhile Nvidia Lovelace is rumored to be not far from 2 times (something like 1.8 times) compared to Ampere, so Nvidia might still have a RT lead, but not by much this time.

This Gen GPU is more like this - AMD had slight better rasterization, Nvidia had slightly better RT, FSR 2 is a bit inferior to DLSS 3, but AMD draw way less power compare to Nvidia (which could up to 650W and even more), and their price is likely to be similar

Nobody buying a $1500 100TF GPU gives a flying fuck about power efficiency. Same goes for anyone buying a desktop or dGPU at any price. Literally no one's going to opt for an objectively slower part to save 100W under load. Unlimited power is the whole point of having a 3 cubic foot box sitting on your desk. You guys who continue to push this narrative for AMD are why they hold less than 5% dGPU marketshare. Based on the OP chart the 4090 will have a 30%+ advantage over a 7900XT when factoring in its RT/DLSS gains. Even if AMD gave them away, people would just sell them and buy 4090s with the proceeds.

 

[StateofMajora]

Intel probably won't compete much in the gaming space anyway, at least at first. But, they might do wonders for availability if lower-level production users snatch them up.

They really got into the graphics business (more than they were, anyway) for the server side of the business.

But I agree, them entering the card arena will help availability and eventually reduce prices I think. Intel are ramping up by building new fab plants.

 

[Sho_Gunn]

All this to still get wiped by Nvidia./

The 3000 series did not wipe AMD's 6000 series. Without DLSS the 6900XT would be the best price/performance card

 

[FingerBang]

The 3000 series did not wipe AMD's 6000 series. Without DLSS the 6900XT would be the best price/performance card

This is so true. Hard to believe AMD has been able to match and even surpass their competition in the last few years. I am expecting the 7000 series to outperform the RTX 4000 series. They might still have an advantage when it comes to real-time ray tracing though.

Oh well, more than happy to upgrade my 3080 FE if there's availability!

 

[MightySquirrel]

That is about 10 PS5s.


All corporations are greedy. Did you not just watch what Nvidia, AMD, MS, and Sony have all done in the last year? At least Intel is boosting American manufacturing.

I was thinking straight perf. Say game runs at 4K 30 on ps5 you might get 150 fps on this at the same settings.

 

[daffyduck]

Because intel is greedy and raja is not trustworthy.

You could say likewise for the other two, especially Nvidia.

 

[sircaw]

Can't wait to pay $4,000

That's just for delivery

 

[Haint]

The 3000 series did not wipe AMD's 6000 series. Without DLSS the 6900XT would be the best price/performance card

It couldn't matter any less to the buying public. The desktop 3080 alone (a massively supply constrained $1000+ street priced super enthusiast GPU) has sold around 2.5x more units than AMD's entire 6XXX line COMBINED. The 3060 with ample supply would tower over the entire RX 6XXX family by around 20x. Every generation AMD seeds these rumors of grand performance and superior power efficiency, and every generation they get absolutely dirt stomped by Nvidia. To really drive home how untouchable their monopoly is, Nvidia's hardware margins are insane, they could cut "MSRP's by like 70% and still make a handsome profit off their cards. Meaning AMD would have to sell cards approaching twice as fast at half the price to even have a prayer of gaining meaningful marketshare. Given such a miracle scenario, Nvidia would very likely eat multi-billion dollar losses to undercut AMD and maintain their dominance.

 

[Sho_Gunn]

It couldn't matter any less to the buying public. The desktop 3080 alone (a massively supply constrained $1000+ street priced super enthusiast GPU) has sold around 2.5x more units than AMD's entire 6XXX line COMBINED. The 3060 with ample supply would tower over the entire RX 6XXX family by around 20x. Every generation AMD seeds these rumors of grand performance and superior power efficiency, and every generation they get absolutely dirt stomped by Nvidia. To really drive home how untouchable their monopoly is, Nvidia's hardware margins are insane, they could cut "MSRP's by like 70% and still make a handsome profit off their cards. Meaning AMD would have to sell cards approaching twice as fast at half the price to even have a prayer of gaining meaningful marketshare. Given such a miracle scenario, Nvidia would very likely eat multi-billion dollar losses to undercut AMD and maintain their dominance.

None of this matters when it comes to actually playing video games lol. AMD is still pushing great(if not better) cards especially with FSR improving

 

[Ozriel]

Intel probably won't compete much in the gaming space anyway, at least at first. But, they might do wonders for availability if lower-level production users snatch them up.

I think their major contribution could be to more affordable gaming ultrabooks.

Though NVIDIA's done a good job at pushing out mobile GPUs at multiple price points.